Parramatta Stadium Rebuild and other stuff

[emjaycee]

Yeah I did too. As a GA Season ticket holder there will be allocated games that we’ll need to go to ticketek to “purchase” our tickets at no charge, but will have to pay a booking fee each time. I reckon that’s a bit shit.

I am hearing that GA tickets will be considerably less than previous years and that the 'booking fee' will still mean GA tickets are cheaper than they have been,

 

[strider]

May I ask what this bloke did about all this while he was in charge?

When was he in charge? ... before or after they built 10 squillion residential units at every suburb with a train station?

 

[emjaycee]

I am hearing that GA tickets will be considerably less than previous years and that the 'booking fee' will still mean GA tickets are cheaper than they have been,

Unless you are a GA ticketed member, I wouldn't be liking my post too quickly @strider

 

[Gronk]

When was he in charge? ... before or after they built 10 squillion residential units at every suburb with a train station?

I hardly think that the outrage should be pointed at Gladys. They are trying to update all modes of transport after decades of neglect.

You also can't point the finger at new medium / high density developments. There was, up until recently, a massive under supply of housing which was a factor in the real estate prices pushing north over the past decade. If they put the breaks on development so that public transport could catch up, housing affordability would be far worse than it is now.

 

[Gronk]

 

[emjaycee]

Kids get in free with each GA paying adult.

 

[Gronk]

 

[Gronk]

$20 for Dad and free entry for the dribblers is a great deal.

 

[Happy MEel]

I am hearing that GA tickets will be considerably less than previous years and that the 'booking fee' will still mean GA tickets are cheaper than they have been,

That’s all well and good but as a season ticket holder I’m of the opinion that the Club should cover the booking fee for these selected matches that will be completely reserved seating.

Edit: @emjaycee do you mean GA season ticketed memberships will be cheaper than previous years? If so then that would be fair enough.

 

[emjaycee]

That’s all well and good but as a season ticket holder I’m of the opinion that the Club should cover the booking fee for these selected matches that will be completely reserved seating.

Edit: @emjaycee do you mean GA season ticketed memberships will be cheaper than previous years? If so then that would be fair enough.

Yes, GA season tickets cheaper than previous years. I have no idea whether casual GA tickets are cheaper or not.

 

[Happy MEel]

Yes, GA season tickets cheaper than previous years. I have no idea whether casual GA tickets are cheaper or not.

Awesome. Thanks for the info mate. Good to see the Club doing the right thing by their members.

 

[strider]

I hardly think that the outrage should be pointed at Gladys. They are trying to update all modes of transport after decades of neglect.

You also can't point the finger at new medium / high density developments. There was, up until recently, a massive under supply of housing which was a factor in the real estate prices pushing north over the past decade. If they put the breaks on development so that public transport could catch up, housing affordability would be far worse than it is now.

Im not trying to blame gladys at all ... agree our transport was neglected for an eternity and is now simply too far behind ... the train line to castle hill was talked about since i was a little boy. About time it gets done ... problem is what they are doing now hardly helps at all cos we are in such a shit place

End of the day is sydney will be a f**k hole within a decade

They decided to drive the population through the roof for financial reasons and forgot to give a shit about the consequences

 

[Gronk]

Awesome. Thanks for the info mate. Good to see the Club doing the right thing by their members.

Perhaps it is more about the NSW Gov are now the owners of ANZ Stadium and can now cut deals with a sharper pencil ?

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/mike-ba...-to-buy-back-anz-stadium-20160614-gpihmm.html

Below is from Infrastructure Capital Group (ICG) website. Is anyone familiar with an asset being referred to as NSW Government Receivable ? What does that mean ?

http://www.infrastructurecapital.com.au/home/assets/

 

[strider]

Unless you are a GA ticketed member, I wouldn't be liking my post too quickly @strider

So you are either saying, non ticketed GA will cost alot
Or other ticketed membership will cost alot

???

 

[Gronk]

They decided to drive the population through the roof for financial reasons and forgot to give a shit about the consequences

Immigration is healthy for a country with almost zero population growth. It has done amazing things for us.

Without immigration we would have suffered a bad recession by now and still be recovering with everything that goes with it (high unemployment, inflation with flow on higher interest rates). Then you'd really be pissed.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-19/high-immigration-masks-australian-economic-decline/8193628

 

[strider]

Immigration is healthy for a country with almost zero population growth. It has done amazing things for us.

Without immigration we would have suffered a bad recession by now and still be recovering with everything that goes with it (high unemployment, inflation with flow on higher interest rates). Then you'd really be pissed.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-19/high-immigration-masks-australian-economic-decline/8193628

Sorry, but anyone who doesnt think sydney is overpopulated for its infrastructure has their head in the sand ... the problem with australia is that practically everyone who comes here wants to live in one of 2 places, sydney or melbourne. Both are struggling to keep up

 

[Suitman]

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/metro-not-the-answer-to-sydneys-transport-woes-20180202-h0sqm5.html

f**kin oath!!!

They can build all the f**king towers they want at parra... it might look cool, but there is no guarantee it will help anything .... the city will come to a standstill in the not too distant future - a trainline from rouse hill to chatswood wont help shit

That's not exactly true Strides.

The first stage of the metro will indeed go from Rouse Hill to Chatswood. Firstly, that will fulfill the needs of all the high density areas along that line - Rouse Hill itself, Bella Vista, the Showground Precinct, the reassigned high density areas of the Showground Precinct and Cherrybrook, and then onto Epping, Macquarie Park, North Ryde and Chatswood. (Have you seen what is being built and also in the planning for Epping, Macquarie and North Ryde?

Already stage 2 has started which will run from Chatswood to Bankstown under Sydney Harbour. This will indeed help the situation, for two reasons, which the bitter clown above fails to mention. He states that Wynyard and Town Hall need another station to help relieve congestion. This line will be getting 3 city stations - 1 at Barangaroo and two in Pitt street. What that will do is take the current Bankstown line trains out of the city circle line and through these new stations. Pitt street is a block away from George street where Town Hall is and 3 blocks away from Wynyard. There are a considerable amount of services from the Bankstown line that won't now go through TH and W. That frees up space for more services from the west, therefore increasing capacity. The newly built Wynyard-Barangaroo Walk will make it easy to transfer from the metro to the current city rail system.

This made me laugh though.

Just as urgent is the need to build a new underground railway station in the city on the double-deck network to take the load off Town Hall and Wynyard stations, where at times passenger congestion reaches dangerous levels. We have been told that the building of the Metro will include such a station but if the existing double-deck trains can't use it, how will it make any difference to today's levels of congestion?

Just by having a new line it will relieve congestion - metro trains carry people as well you dumbarse. And they carry more people per hour than double deckers do on the existing lines because the services are far more frequent and faster. Double deckers are slow and cumbersome, and the dwell time at stations is far greater than metros.

All great cities in the world have amazing metro systems. Paris, Rome, Moscow, Tokyo, London, Berlin, New York etc...... He's right in one thing - Sydney has a system that at times can struggle, but it is unfair to be criticising a government who are now trying to catch up, and the fault in that lies in those that have overseen the system before, of which he was one. Not saying he should have fixed it, but glass houses and stuff?

For the record, I'm not sure if you know how proper metro systems work, but basically each line is independent of another - there is no line sharing, which is what Sydney's major problem is. We have what is a similar to an 8 lane freeway merging into a single lane highway at the busiest point of the system.

Moscow......



Paris

Sydney

 

[Gronk]

Sorry, but anyone who doesnt think sydney is overpopulated for its infrastructure has their head in the sand ... the problem with australia is that practically everyone who comes here wants to live in one of 2 places, sydney or melbourne. Both are struggling to keep up

I've already said that our infrastructure is way behind our population. I think you are struggling to keep up.

 

[emjaycee]

So you are either saying, non ticketed GA will cost alot
Or other ticketed membership will cost alot

???

Non-ticketed GA doesn't exist.

 

[strider]

That's not exactly true Strides.

The first stage of the metro will indeed go from Rouse Hill to Chatswood. Firstly, that will fulfill the needs of all the high density areas along that line - Rouse Hill itself, Bella Vista, the Showground Precinct, the reassigned high density areas of the Showground Precinct and Cherrybrook, and then onto Epping, Macquarie Park, North Ryde and Chatswood. (Have you seen what is being built and also in the planning for Epping, Macquarie and North Ryde?

Already stage 2 has started which will run from Chatswood to Bankstown under Sydney Harbour. This will indeed help the situation, for two reasons, which the bitter clown above fails to mention. He states that Wynyard and Town Hall need another station to help relieve congestion. This line will be getting 3 city stations - 1 at Barangaroo and two in Pitt street. What that will do is take the current Bankstown line trains out of the city circle line and through these new stations. Pitt street is a block away from George street where Town Hall is and 3 blocks away from Wynyard. There are a considerable amount of services from the Bankstown line that won't now go through TH and W. That frees up space for more services from the west, therefore increasing capacity. The newly built Wynyard-Barangaroo Walk will make it easy to transfer from the metro to the current city rail system.

This made me laugh though.



Just by having a new line it will relieve congestion - metro trains carry people as well you dumbarse. And they carry more people per hour than double deckers do on the existing lines because the services are far more frequent and faster. Double deckers are slow and cumbersome, and the dwell time at stations is far greater than metros.

All great cities in the world have amazing metro systems. Paris, Rome, Moscow, Tokyo, London, Berlin, New York etc...... He's right in one thing - Sydney has a system that at times can struggle, but it is unfair to be criticising a government who are now trying to catch up, and the fault in that lies in those that have overseen the system before, of which he was one. Not saying he should have fixed it, but glass houses and stuff?

For the record, I'm not sure if you know how proper metro systems work, but basically each line is independent of another - there is no line sharing, which is what Sydney's major problem is. We have what is a similar to an 8 lane freeway merging into a single lane highway at the busiest point of the system.

Moscow......



Paris

Sydney

yeah I am aware the current system has issues .... I have ridden on it daily for the best part of 30 years - so I think I have some experience .... and I have read plenty about why people believe it has short comings - linked lines, too many seats, old constrained signalling

I don't know why you guys think I am having a go at gladys or the current govt .... I think its great what they are doing .... the problem is it's probably 15 years too late - AND there needs to be about 5 times as much of it

I'm also unsure why you think what the guy who wrote the article is such a dumbass ... I don't think he is being overly critical of what is being done, more-so that there is probably better options, though he has no idea of what else is planned

I am also well aware that the northwest metro line will go much further than chatswood - my comment there was more about timelines .... the full bankstown system is what, 7, 8, 10 years from completion?

the problem with the current plan is that in the meantime it will actually put enormous strain on the northern lines (when they link with epping and then chatswood) .... and other southern lines when they close bankstown and push those people onto buses to sydenham and other lines south

I also don't get why you think what the guy is saying in the article is so wrong .... as I understand he is saying the metro would have been better off continuing to a NEW metro line west instead of bankstown ..... and I think it has plenty of merit ..... the advantages you talk of with extra stations in the city become even more relevant - because they will actually be serving the MOST strained line of all, west

not sure if you are aware, but bankstown has the least patronage of all sydney lines - solving it's problems does the least good for the current congested system .... which I think is part of why they chose it - less distruption when they shut it down (and cheaper than building a whole new line)

there desperately needs to be new options - not simply converting existing options .... and building new options takes a LOOOOOONG time .... how long has the norwest line taken to plan, build, etc and it's not there yet ..... the article is suggesting building one of these new options would have been better - I agree

what plans are there for the new options? .... I don't think there are any .... its all at the contemplation stage .... anything new is a long way off - and I simply don't think we have the time - things will fall apart before then

anyway ... enough .... I never bother with such long posts these days cos frankly its a waste of time - and people will just shout me down anyway .... consider this my last