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Parramatta Stadium Rebuild and other stuff

Kornstar

Coach
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Oof...that's a long post for something you don't care about mate :p

Where to start...hopefully Suity doesn't get up us for derailing the thread (JOKES)



I am irreligious. But I also support people's right to a religion, so for me a prayer room isn't something that I have a single issue with. It literally doesn't affect me in any way and if it makes someone feel more comfortable in the stadium for whatever event then it's certainly not a bad thing.

Do you oppose catering to Chinese people, for example?



I haven't either. In fact tbh the people I do hear squealing about religious representation are normally Christians.

Tell me, would you have even known about them if not for the photo here?




Well if you want to have a theological debate about how much of Star Wars is based in existing religion, we have a Non Footy Chat thread where I'd be glad to do so.

Anyway, those other events mean that it's not just about using a prayer room during a footy game as you originally suggested. There are dozens of other events that will utilise the stadium. Do you not believe that Islamic workers have a right to pray during their shift if they want? Smokers can take 47 breaks but religious workers can't pray? Seems silly when put that way, yes?

Regardless, it's not relevant unless Star Wars becomes an official religion. You are trying to compare the second largest religion on earth to a series of half decent movies.

Personally I'd take much more offence to a stadium regularly playing Korn than to one that provides prayer rooms...no offence.

I will agree that you're being a bit of an areshole in comparing your preferences to something many people believe (rightly or wrongly) is a mandatory part of their lives.



It may be small, but it is growing. It's certainly larger than some other groups who are better represented.

Assimilation sounds awfully like One Nation nationalism mate. Have you never seen a Greek orthodox church? Should they just assimilate and use our existing churches?



Halal also has an animal cruelty element to it, though, so it's a different argument. Although yes, a lot of bigots certainly take exception for no reason other than it is an Islamic certification.

Kosher food hasn't got anywhere the same level of opposition.



No, I genuinely don't see why people struggle with it. It has literally no bearing on my life. If we are so giving, why not allow people to practice a religion that has literally no bearing on our lives?

And yes, i do believe that there is a high level of racism involved most of the time. Or at the very least xenophobia and/or jingoism



I'm not 100% sure what the point is here, but I would ask why you believe people would oppose something that doesn't affect them in any way if there wasn't some element of ignorance, racism, jingoism or perhaps xenophobia involved.

I think people use deflective arguments about "free speech" and "assimilation" to distract from one or more of these base factors.

I think you try to be too smart for everyone but I’m at the game supporting the Eels so i will reply later.
 

Bazal

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I think you try to be too smart for everyone but I’m at the game supporting the Eels so i will reply later.

What?

Back to this again? I'm not even sure what that means, it comes across as a cop out. But it's a forum mate, don't feel obligated to respond to anything.
 
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I was bought up catholic.Went to a catholic school. I used to piss my pants and sweat in nightmares as a 4yld child thinking the devil will get me from the sins I would commit during my day from the bullshit I was told. I sinned from a young age. merkin of a kid.
And yeah as a teen at school I taped a bong in the statue of Mother Marys hand. And later expelled for an incident involving urination.
It's my opinion that anyone in this day and age who is an active catholic (especially one who puts cash in the plate) is nothing more than a deranged fool that is happy to aid and abet a pedophile cult. I don't expect this post to win me any friends here but that is how I feel about it. Any of you catholics who want to arc up about it, don't bother . You won't change my mind, I CGAF if it triggers you and I won't be responding further.

Edit, I will respond as that is a weak thing to not respond.
 

Bazal

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It's my opinion that anyone in this day and age who is an active catholic (especially one who puts cash in the plate) is nothing more than a deranged fool that is happy to aid and abet a pedophile cult. I don't expect this post to win me any friends here but that is how I feel about it. Any of you catholics who want to arc up about it, don't bother . You won't change my mind, I CGAF if it triggers you and I won't be responding further.

Not the place for it really but I do believe you can be actively Catholic and not support the activities of the church as an entity.

The religion is separate from the organisation.

But I'm neither anyway
 
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I remember at age 9 finding where the collection box went.
So where do bad folks go when they die?
I think I was mentally scarred from being religous but sinning like a mother f**ker...
The collection box goes to the church to add to their immense wealth, lawyers and hush money. It doesn't go to people who are truly in need. This much I do know.
 

amitropo

Juniors
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I knew posting pic would light up this thread.
Do all faiths get to pray in rooms at same time? Do we get a corner each?
Will it be timed?
 

Gronk

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Silly question. I know that we have 25,000 members, but how many of those are season ticket holders ?
 

hybrideel

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Haha. I know you're joking. I'm no mod on this thread, I just started the f**king thing (much to the disgust of Bart at the time)!!
I've no problem with this discussion in this thread anyway. In fact, I find it fascinating.
I'm moderately religious myself and find it interesting reading people's thoughts. You yourself make some very compelling arguments. I'm not really sure why some prayer rooms would bother anyone to be honest.
And, just as an aside, I can see why, but don't understand, why this discussion has focused on a certain religion. The prayer rooms are there for all religions. I'll never use them, but I respect the rights of those that will and I have no problems with the small amount of square meterage of the stadium that they take up. Maybe, after all these years, we know what the true meaning of the phrase "multi-purpose stadium" is.

I would say the reason for this would be, from a completely ignorant position such as mine when it comes to religion, the only one that most people know about that requires strict regular prayer times is muslin faith.
AGAIN, it more than likely isn't the only one, but very likely the only one many people know of, having seen guys lay out mats in Merrylands mall car park and the like
 

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