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Parramatta Stadium Rebuild and other stuff

T-Boon

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Parramatta being a growing city and wanting to compete with the other cities especially Sydney should approve towers that have a reputation. EG "tallest in the country" would become a bit of an attraction.
I realise there is some man made law that says one cannot build over a certain height. But that can be changed with the stroke of a pen.
 

Suitman

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Parramatta being a growing city and wanting to compete with the other cities especially Sydney should approve towers that have a reputation. EG "tallest in the country" would become a bit of an attraction.
I realise there is some man made law that says one cannot build over a certain height. But that can be changed with the stroke of a pen.

Building height limits are severely restricted by CASA in all Australian cities. Sydney city level is about 330 mtrs above sea level.
Parramatta is about 240 ASL. Melbourne is 360. The Gold Coast has the highest limits of about 400 mtrs.
They can't just be changed by a stroke of a pen. These height limits are extremely difficult to change.
 

T-Boon

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Building height limits are severely restricted by CASA in all Australian cities. Sydney city level is about 330 mtrs above sea level.
Parramatta is about 240 ASL. Melbourne is 360. The Gold Coast has the highest limits of about 400 mtrs.
They can't just be changed by a stroke of a pen. These height limits are extremely difficult to change.

That is good info.
But again WTF is CASA?
Are they the constitution.
Parra's height limit should be higher than Sydney's.
 

Suitman

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GPT bets big on Parramatta with new $1.6b twin-tower project
dec 8
The GPT Group has doubled down on its commitment to Parramatta in western Sydney, spending $90 million expanding an existing site
on which it plans to build two office towers, one reaching 60 levels, with an estimated end value of $1.6 billion.

The GPT Wholesale Office Fund (GWOF) has just completed the consolidation of a further four properties adjacent to buildings it already owned,
giving it control of about 6500 square metres spanning 81 to 91 George Street, in the heart of Parramatta’s CBD.

GPT Group, developed the 27-floor tower at 32 Smith Street,

Martin Ritchie, manager of the fund, said the goal is to go large and create an entire precinct over the next decade.

“When we started looking at the first site, we could see there was a second site there, and we took the view that it was going to be a much better product if we could build a whole precinct rather than just one single building,” Mr Ritchie said.

“But rather than do both sites together we thought we needed to focus on one, make sure we had that secured, before we focused on the second one.”

“We’ve acquired these two sites with a view they will be built over the next 10 years, so it’s quite a long time.”

The first site is in the final stages of a design competition for a 60-level office tower with 75,000sq m of net lettable area,
followed by a 35-level, 50,000sq m building. Heritage buildings on both sites will be retained and enhanced.

Development approval for phase one is expected late next year and construction could start in 2024
but is dependent on securing 50 per cent tenancy pre-commitment.

www.afr.com

GPT bets big on Parramatta with new $1.6b twin-tower project

The rapid evolution of Parramatta will play a huge role in the future of GPT as the property group expands its presence in Sydney’s second CBD.
www.afr.com
www.afr.com
 

Suitman

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gee the DAs take a long time


It is seriously ridiculous.
Even for us domestic builders. It drives us insane.

The latest development proposal that I posted above was first mooted in 2016.
Sure, the developer has a plan, and has waited to purchase the adjacent allotment, but they are talking 10 years before the proposal could be completed. Crazy timelines and a lot can happen to the over heated market at this time, over that time frame.
Basically, the sooner they can start building, the better.
 

Suitman

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In addition to the new Parramatta Powerhouse, the NSW Gov are also building Sydney Modern, adjacent to the Art Gallery in the Domain. It’s coming along nicely.


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I've been following this project for a long time. It is going to be a stunning new addition to the Art Gallery.
They are reinventing some old underground fuel tanks that were there to supply fuel to war ships during the 2nd World War, and turning that area into a gallery.
This will be an amazing new tourist attraction for Sydney.
 

Gronk

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The Eels Hotel has progressed a stage.

"The Department has received a response to the issues raised in submissions for the Parramatta Leagues Club Hotel. You can access this document on the Major Projects Website.

The Department will now commence its assessment having regard to the issues raised in submissions and the proponents response."

 

Twizzle

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The Eels Hotel has progressed a stage.

"The Department has received a response to the issues raised in submissions for the Parramatta Leagues Club Hotel. You can access this document on the Major Projects Website.

The Department will now commence its assessment having regard to the issues raised in submissions and the proponents response."


those submissions, lol

the first one is a guy from Canberra who has visited Parramatta Park

World Heritage ???? wtf
 

Gronk

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Coincidentally, we have a very similar development in my hood. It is a SSD which overlooks Centennial Park. Objections are a) that it casts a shadow over the park and b) that it is visible from the park. Both of these objections are of a similar vein and IMHO frivolous. It will get approved and Centennial Park is way more world heritage-ish than Parramatta Park.

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Gronk

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From the Telecrap today


Parramatta Eels: Kellyville Park mega revamp revealed​

Parramatta Eels’ stunning $40 million Centre of Excellence is a step closer to reality after fresh documents were submitted. And the papers reveal it is not only the NRL club set to benefit.

The Parramatta Eels are one step closer to building a stunning $40m new HQ.
Development plans were recently lodged with the NSW Planning Department for a Centre of Excellence and Community Sports Hub that would cover the entire 34,689 sqm site Kellyville Park currently occupies.
The proposed location marks a 13 kilometre move northward from The Eels’ Parramatta heartland and is part of the Hills Shire Council’s 2019 vision to transform “Kellyville Park (into) the premier sports facility in the Hills Shire for rugby league”.
The Federal Government has already committed $15 million in funding, with the remaining funds expected to come from State Government grants, council funds and the Parramatta Eels club itself.
An early concept image of the Eels Centre of Excellence.

An early concept image of the Eels Centre of Excellence.
Kellyville Park is currently used for community sport — it is home to a range of local clubs including the Kellyville Bushrangers, Polecats Rugby League, Renegades Rugby Union and Kellyville Kolts Baseball.
James Power, Secretary of the Kellyville Bushrangers, the longest serving rugby league tenants at Kellyville Park, said he is thrilled about the prospect of Kellyville Park’s transformation and said his club is already benefiting from The Eels’ development plans.
“We’ve been operating out of a shipping container and portable building for over 20 years, and, only a few years ago, we were worried the Bushrangers might be pushed out with the rise of local soccer teams,” he said.
“For many years, we were in talks with council about upgrading our facilities.
“When The Eels became involved that had a major impact on the project moving forward and the scale of what we might be able to achieve.”

Mr Power said what thrills him the most is the rise in enthusiasm for rugby league, particularly in the girls teams.
“Our kids will be able to train next to their heroes, people they can look up to and aspire to.
“This is really important for the girls we have in our development program as now, with the Eels NRLW team, they can see that there is an end game and professional opportunities.”

James Power is thrilled about the boost in girls participation in rugby league that the news of The Eels development plans has brought.
Scott Mitchell, president of the Renegades, said his club has been in close contact with the Eels throughout the planning process.
“We’re blessed with having fantastic fields but I know that if the upgrade to Kellyville Park goes through, some of the facilities that will be available to us will really be top class,” he stated.
“We love being here and having the support of the Eels — I know this development will 100% be a positive, not just for us, but for the whole Hills community.”
A concept plan of a new grandstand.

A concept plan of a new grandstand.
However, The Kellyville Kolts secretary, Kate Redman, said she hasn’t received any direct assurances about whether the development will benefit her non-profit baseball club.
“Our field has been here for over 35 years, and it could really use an upgrade,” she said.
“I hope that having the Eels here will mean that it’s not just the local rugby clubs who feel the positive effects of their presence — we’re also in need of help.”

Kate Redman from the Kellyville Kolts hopes The Eels plans for a Kellyville Park revamp will benefit a range of sporting codes — not just the rugby clubs.
In a statement, Joshua Drayton, the General Manager of Corporate Affairs for the Parramatta Eels, said all local community sports groups will benefit from this proposed development.
“All five rugby fields have already been upgraded with new drainage and turf, and the benefits of this are already being felt by the local community,” he said.
“But other local community sports groups, such as the Kellyville Kolts, will also benefit from the proposed addition of a new car park, improved access from the Memorial Ave entrance, and also from the fact that this will be a much more community-centric facility.”
Documents recently submitted to the NSW Planning Department further stress that the multimillion-dollar revamp will not undermine the community oriented nature of Kellyville Park — noting that The Eels are “committed to fostering the talent of Western Sydney”.
“Kellyville Park will be the home for all ages and abilities — from grassroots to elite sport,” these documents state.
“The state-of-the-art facilities will enable junior, senior and elite sportsmen and women to regularly use these facilities and increase capacity.”
An early concept image of the facility

An early concept image of the facility
As previously reported, plans first revealed in July 2021, propose the addition of five playing fields and outline two major components to Kellyville Park’s transformation.
The first — a high-performance Centre of Excellence — would feature an elite level gymnasium, medical facilities, a yoga room, aquatic recovery pools, a lecture theatre, administration offices for the Parramatta Eels, and new female facilities, including a female change room and showers.
The second major component is the community sports hub.
This component would include a new grandstand (seating approximately 1,500 people), additional spectator mounding, unisex and referee changerooms, a medical room, a community gymnasium, a new cafe and a community education room.

An early concept image of the Eels Centre of Excellence.

An early concept image of the Eels Centre of Excellence.
The developers will need to complete an Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) and place the development plans on exhibition before it can be determined by the NSW Planning Department.
If approved, construction is anticipated to begin in October of this year and reach completion by the end of 2024.

 

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