Parramatta Stadium Rebuild and other stuff

[the phantom menace]

I wonder if the way we tell which posters "wank over" the Union is by counting how many posts a person makes about the Union.....?

 

[T.S Quint]

It's great that you can head down the coast and drink beers and cocktails and have a BBQ.
I do similar and head to the Snowy Mountains each year when I can. A BBQ, some beers and wine, looking across the lake to the mountains watching the sunset. Then, later on, sitting in front of a fire pit talking shit with good friends and drinking wine until the small hours.

Love it. Snowy Mountains is a great spot. I've only been there during winter though. I must get there in the warmer months at some stage.

However, each year, there's more than a million people who like to do otherwise, and that is watching the fireworks on Sydney Harbour. Many of them with young families. A bit like a lot of our parents did for us when we were kids.
NYE in Sydney is huge. It should not be held to ransom by a rail union's greed.
I'm not saying you were suggesting that however.

Nah, not suggesting that at all. Was just making a joke.
I'm on your side in this one Suity. These pricks are taking things way too far. Sounds like they have had good offers to end this shit, but they just keep wanting more.

 

[Suitman]

Parramatta Leagues Club site to transform into entertainment quarter with hotel, restaurants, units
Sydney’s west will become home to an “unparalleled” entertainment and residential precinct, with Parramatta Leagues Club set to be transformed in a $300m revamp. Take a look.
December 17, 2024 - Parramatta Advertiser


Sydney’s west will become home to an “unparalleled” entertainment and residential precinct, with Parramatta Leagues Club set to be transformed in a $300m revamp. As part of a “Parramatta Live’’ masterplan, the precinct will host a new clubhouse for the leagues club’s 65,000 members, a hotel, a culinary hub and youth facility to transform the site flanking CommBank Stadium. Club officials have unveiled grand plans for the three-stage project which could see the completion of the clubhouse and a 1000-capacity theatre by 2028. To ensure trading continues throughout construction, the existing clubhouse will not be demolished until the following year and is set to be replaced with a 150-room, 12-storey hotel with a swimming pool under stage 2. The four-star hotel, with rooms overlooking O’Connell St and the stadium, will house a 450sq m youth hub and community centre on the lower levels. A gymnasium, and bowling and arcade games, are also earmarked for the project with plans expected to be lodged with Parramatta Council early next year.

Under the third stage of the development, a theatre will be constructed next to the stadium and two buildings with 100 apartments will replace “The Bronx” unit block, completing the final piece of the masterplan by 2034. More than 6000sq m of open space will provide a “backyard” for the people of North Parramatta. “There’s nothing like this in western Sydney,’’ Parramatta Leagues Club president Greg Monaghan said. “It will be such a vibrant community space, eating and dining, and tied into CommBank Stadium. It’s begging to be developed.’’ The club owns most of the land on the site, which the Parramatta Park Trust and Venues NSW also partially own.

The club envisages the redevelopment to provide entertainment for North Parramatta daily, not just after an NRL match.
Already home to the Eels and Western Sydney Wanderers, Mr Monaghan said CommBank Stadium would host the Matildas more frequently and the redevelopment would complement events.
“We’re really aiming to complement whatever’s happening in the stadium so if there’s a big concert in the stadium, if it’s packed, we expect here to be packed as well,’’ Mr Monaghan said.
“But it’s not just intending to be an event-day experience, it’s intending to be a seven-day-a-week for people who live here and visitors.’’ He said the existing leagues club, founded by Jack Argent and Jack Boyle in 1956, had passed its use-by date.

“Unfortunately it’s time to hit the road Jack,’’ he said. The original hotel proposed 17 storeys with 209 rooms but Mr Monaghan plans were modified to ensure no new buildings eclipsed the top of the existing multistorey carpark and were sensitive to heritage guidelines for the Parramatta Female Factory nearby. The precinct’s redevelopment has been sidelined for several years after first surfacing in 2015 when a $100m proposal was revealed. However, upzoning changes announced for North Parramatta last year have signalled renewed confidence for the club’s redevelopment. NSW Premier Chris Minns endorsed changes that will allow buildings to reach 30 storeys along Church St – two thirds the size of existing height limits in the Parramatta CBD.
Now the club’s redevelopment is gathering pace to support the population boom. “It’s a much bigger vision than just a hotel than we had in the past,’’ Mr Monaghan said. “We’re reimagining the whole area. It’s so exciting. “I really think we can bring something that’s unparalleled to our area.’’

 

[Gronk]

Nice. Cutting edge shit. That’s how you do it Cronulla Sharks.

STFU “Friends of Parramatta Park”. You f**king don’t go there anyway.

 

[Twizzle]

The bolded part at the end was mine.
So, who do we believe?
The union, who some here wank over, or the Labor Govt who some here also wank over?
Clearly, one of these two is lying.
My money is on the RTBU. Considering the outrageous 234 itemised demands which I have previously posted here.

obviously, I'm an outsider but my money would be on "a bit of both"

 

[Suitman]

And they say they don't want to inconvenience the public. Lol.
Now comparing the state govt to Nth Korea. Double Lol's.
Yes, the government expressing its legal rights is comparable to a totalitarian dictatorship. What a hysterical argument.

Update on negotiations (or lack thereof) in our Sydney/NSW Trains bargain - fighting for our future

17 December 2024 Dear members, It’s hard to write a single email to you all with everything that’s happening. Yesterday, the Government stepped up its attacks against us, and every Australian worker […]

fightingforourfuture.com.au

 

[the phantom menace]

And they say they don't want to inconvenience the public. Lol.
Now comparing the state govt to Nth Korea. Double Lol's.
Yes, the government expressing its legal rights is comparable to a totalitarian dictatorship. What a hysterical argument.

Update on negotiations (or lack thereof) in our Sydney/NSW Trains bargain - fighting for our future

17 December 2024 Dear members, It’s hard to write a single email to you all with everything that’s happening. Yesterday, the Government stepped up its attacks against us, and every Australian worker […]

fightingforourfuture.com.au

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I wonder if the way we tell which posters "wank over" the Union is by counting how many posts a person makes about the Union.....?

 

[Suitman]

Generally speaking when one has to resort to comparing their opponent to North Korea, that means they've lost the argument.

But Unions are the bestest!!!!

 

[Suitman]

From Haylenbook.

Services will commence at 5am on Friday the 20th of December, at Carlingford and Westmead. 5:02am at Parramatta Square.

About f**king time.

 

[84 Baby]

I wonder if the way we tell which posters "wank over"

Suitman/Pou

is by counting how many posts a person makes about

Suitman/Pou

 

[the phantom menace]

Generally speaking when one has to resort to comparing their opponent to North Korea, that means they've lost the argument.

But Unions are the bestest!!!!

I wonder if the way we tell which posters "wank over" the Union is by counting how many posts a person makes about the Union.....?

 

[the phantom menace]

Suitman/Pou

Suitman/Pou

I'd pay to see that match in the Octagon...

 

[84 Baby]

I'd pay to see that match in the Octagon...

I bet you would

 

[Gronk]

Parramatta Leagues Club site to transform into entertainment quarter with hotel, restaurants, units
Sydney’s west will become home to an “unparalleled” entertainment and residential precinct, with Parramatta Leagues Club set to be transformed in a $300m revamp. Take a look.
December 17, 2024 - Parramatta Advertiser


Sydney’s west will become home to an “unparalleled” entertainment and residential precinct, with Parramatta Leagues Club set to be transformed in a $300m revamp. As part of a “Parramatta Live’’ masterplan, the precinct will host a new clubhouse for the leagues club’s 65,000 members, a hotel, a culinary hub and youth facility to transform the site flanking CommBank Stadium. Club officials have unveiled grand plans for the three-stage project which could see the completion of the clubhouse and a 1000-capacity theatre by 2028. To ensure trading continues throughout construction, the existing clubhouse will not be demolished until the following year and is set to be replaced with a 150-room, 12-storey hotel with a swimming pool under stage 2. The four-star hotel, with rooms overlooking O’Connell St and the stadium, will house a 450sq m youth hub and community centre on the lower levels. A gymnasium, and bowling and arcade games, are also earmarked for the project with plans expected to be lodged with Parramatta Council early next year.

Under the third stage of the development, a theatre will be constructed next to the stadium and two buildings with 100 apartments will replace “The Bronx” unit block, completing the final piece of the masterplan by 2034. More than 6000sq m of open space will provide a “backyard” for the people of North Parramatta. “There’s nothing like this in western Sydney,’’ Parramatta Leagues Club president Greg Monaghan said. “It will be such a vibrant community space, eating and dining, and tied into CommBank Stadium. It’s begging to be developed.’’ The club owns most of the land on the site, which the Parramatta Park Trust and Venues NSW also partially own.

The club envisages the redevelopment to provide entertainment for North Parramatta daily, not just after an NRL match.
Already home to the Eels and Western Sydney Wanderers, Mr Monaghan said CommBank Stadium would host the Matildas more frequently and the redevelopment would complement events.
“We’re really aiming to complement whatever’s happening in the stadium so if there’s a big concert in the stadium, if it’s packed, we expect here to be packed as well,’’ Mr Monaghan said.
“But it’s not just intending to be an event-day experience, it’s intending to be a seven-day-a-week for people who live here and visitors.’’ He said the existing leagues club, founded by Jack Argent and Jack Boyle in 1956, had passed its use-by date.

“Unfortunately it’s time to hit the road Jack,’’ he said. The original hotel proposed 17 storeys with 209 rooms but Mr Monaghan plans were modified to ensure no new buildings eclipsed the top of the existing multistorey carpark and were sensitive to heritage guidelines for the Parramatta Female Factory nearby. The precinct’s redevelopment has been sidelined for several years after first surfacing in 2015 when a $100m proposal was revealed. However, upzoning changes announced for North Parramatta last year have signalled renewed confidence for the club’s redevelopment. NSW Premier Chris Minns endorsed changes that will allow buildings to reach 30 storeys along Church St – two thirds the size of existing height limits in the Parramatta CBD.
Now the club’s redevelopment is gathering pace to support the population boom. “It’s a much bigger vision than just a hotel than we had in the past,’’ Mr Monaghan said. “We’re reimagining the whole area. It’s so exciting. “I really think we can bring something that’s unparalleled to our area.’’

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Did you notice that the caretaker / gatehouse cottage is still there ? Why ? I’m all for conservation (I can’t even trim my front hedge more than 30cm - not a euphemism!) but there are literally examples of this type of architecture everywhere throughout Sydney. FMD we demolish a 1800s pub for the trams but keep this stupid brick POS.

 

[Suitman]

Did you notice that the caretaker / gatehouse cottage is still there ? Why ? I’m all for conservation (I can’t even trim my front hedge more than 30cm - not a euphemism!) but there are literally examples of this type of architecture everywhere throughout Sydney. FMD we demolish a 1800s pub for the trams but keep this stupid brick POS.

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I agree. Nothing special about that building but its heritage listed, so it stays.
Apparently being renovated and turned into a museum and cafe, so at least it'll get used.

 

[Twizzle]

it looks like it should be in a museum

 

[Gronk]

but its heritage listed, so it stays.

I wish that statement was true. We have examples like the pub and Willow Grove which have been moved on, yet this is sacrosanct?

 

[King-Gutho94]

Did you notice that the caretaker / gatehouse cottage is still there ? Why ? I’m all for conservation (I can’t even trim my front hedge more than 30cm - not a euphemism!) but there are literally examples of this type of architecture everywhere throughout Sydney. FMD we demolish a 1800s pub for the trams but keep this stupid brick POS.

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I agree its been a waste of space for a long time and its hampered the club from doing redevelopment previously.

The design of the new precinct looks great.

With the new COE nearly built, this hopefully gets approved and Commbank Stadium still 5 years old and is a world class facility. We have not only caught up with modern age we have facilities brand new and game leading in a way.

Its exciting

 

[King-Gutho94]

it looks like it should be in a museum

Is there enough room for our 14 x Wooden Spoon trophies to be stored in there you reckon

 

[Gronk]

I agree its been a waste of space for a long time and its hampered the club from doing redevelopment previously.

The design of the new precinct looks great.

With the new COE nearly built, this hopefully gets approved and Commbank Stadium still 5 years old and is a world class facility. We have not only caught up with modern age we have facilities brand new and game leading in a way.

Its exciting

I think Minns has already said he’s behind it, so that’s 75% of the struggle with State Significant Developments. You seem to need a big dog to walk it through for you.

Can I just say (trying not to be a Debbie Downer) but there is a similar thing at the SCG / Hordern / Alliance called Entertainment Quarter and it’s been a white elephant for decades. IIRC Gerry Harvey has the head lease over all the facilities now and it trying to introduce new restaurants etc. The biggest problem with EQ is that it was inactive except for event days.

Both developments are the same, but different in ways. Either way, they need patronage to pay the bills.