Past demons and premiership pressure

[Gary Gutful]

We are just cursed.

Someone needs to go to Africa and find a witchdoctor to undo the curse.

Off you go.

 

[Noise]

I don't want to blame Arthur - no coach has ever had to deal with something like a covid-enforced break, so it was impossible to determine which was the right call to make.

No coach had to deal with the covid break? 15 other NRL coaches also had to deal with the covid enforced break.

 

[Gary Gutful]

So a perspective from someone without any baggage - my wife.

She rarely watches any football except for Origin. She watched the whole game last night which was unusual.

A couple of things - she is now a massive Gutho fan. She marvelled at his involvement and energy. Secondly, she was of the view that the effort was there but they were just a little unlucky at times and occasionally a bit dumb.

After losing MJ, Sivo and Fergo we did better than most thought we would. You only have to go back and look at comments on the forum yesterday morning!

That said it still sucks that we have come up short. It’s only after a game of golf this morning and a couple of Coopers that I have gained some perspective. I was f**ken pissed off last night!

 

[hybrideel]

I don't agree with this. We as a club always blame the halfback. I think we should get over finding the next Thurston or Johns or Sterling.

Don't forget we got into the Grand Final with Jeff Robson and Finch. Robson was a park footballer and even Melbourne Storm couldn't fix Finch he was so terrible.

Finch played against us in the GF. He played the first 4 games for us at 7 with Hayne at 6 which we won 2 of.
We then tried other combinations of Robson, K.Keating, Meteo, and Reddy before Mortimer came in to partner Robson

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Wanted to make a new thread where there isn’t too much player or coach bashing.

Simple question.

Are the demons of our ‘failures’ from 1997-2009 and premiership pressure to break our drought coming back to haunt us?

We’ve been good enough to make 3 finals series’ appearances under BA. Could of been 4 if not for the rorts of 2016. We’ve gone out in straight sets each occasion except for last years win over the broncos.

Is it a mental thing that’s stopping this team? We’ve been in many games Only to fold like toilet paper.

thoughts? Are we still feeling the effects of the Brian smith years? Are those failures having a bearing on us today?

I don't think it affects anyone except the fans. The players and coaches wouldn't give a f**k. Most of them wouldn't even remember those games, if they ever watched them in the first place.

As for why we seem to drop our bundle in big games I reckon it's for the same reason we did under Smith. We overachieve (due to Smith's tactics and Arthur's drive) so that we end up in a lot of games we aren't really entitled to win based on our roster. We hardly ever have players in Origin, compared to the top sides, and we lack the on field generals (the best clubs have several) to grip shit up when it starts to go wrong.

Gutherson is a great leader and Dylan Brown showed plenty of heart last night. But his inexperience was really evident. The merkin was still eligible for Jersey Flegg this year. He will be a great player, and we have the makings of a pretty good team. I expect us to be at least as good next year, depending on recruitment (including replacing Mennings, if necessary) and injury. It looks like we're going to have f**k all NRL experience outside our top 17, which hasn't been the case in recent years.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So a perspective from someone without any baggage - my wife.

She rarely watches any football except for Origin. She watched the whole game last night which was unusual.

A couple of things - she is now a massive Gutho fan. She marvelled at his involvement and energy. Secondly, she was of the view that the effort was there but they were just a little unlucky at times and occasionally a bit dumb.

f**ken get her on here so we can put shit on her!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Arthur really needs to be smart with his recruitment for 2021, and he needs to tick all the right boxes.

Arthur's not in charge of recruitment.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Souths still didn’t go out in straight sets in 2019. They finished 3rd and still made the preliminary final only losing to the Raiders in a closely contested grand final qualifier.

They didn't go out in straight sets because they played an easy team in week 2: https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/.../south-sydney-vs-manly-warringah/summary.html

 

[Eelementary]

No coach had to deal with the covid break? 15 other NRL coaches also had to deal with the covid enforced break.

I meant that it hasn't happened before in history. I wasn't saying he was the only one subjected to it.

 

[Gary Gutful]

f**ken get her on here so we can put shit on her!

She used to be on here but left because she reckons it’s gone to shit.

 

[Eelementary]

Arthur's not in charge of recruitment.

Then our recruitment team needs to get it right.

We aren't too far off having a roster that can legitimately challenge for a title.

 

[Noise]

They didn't go out in straight sets because they played an easy team in week 2: https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/.../south-sydney-vs-manly-warringah/summary.html

They played the team who came 6th winning 60% of their games. We also played the team who came 6th who won 58% of their games. They played a team with 3 current origin stars. We played a team with 3 current origin stars. Pretty similar if you ask me.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

They played the team who came 6th winning 60% of their games. We also played the team who came 6th who won 58% of their games. They played a team with 3 current origin stars. We played a team with 3 current origin stars. Pretty similar if you ask me.

If you think that Manly semi final team was in any way comparable to last night's Souths team we'll have to agree to disagree. For starters they only had two current Origin players, with Trbojevic out. And Souths had five in Origin last year.

 

[Gronk]

So a perspective from someone without any baggage - my wife.

She rarely watches any football except for Origin. She watched the whole game last night which was unusual.

A couple of things - she is now a massive Gutho fan. She marvelled at his involvement and energy. Secondly, she was of the view that the effort was there but they were just a little unlucky at times and occasionally a bit dumb.

After losing MJ, Sivo and Fergo we did better than most thought we would. You only have to go back and look at comments on the forum yesterday morning!

That said it still sucks that we have come up short. It’s only after a game of golf this morning and a couple of Coopers that I have gained some perspective. I was f**ken pissed off last night!

Yeah that’s what big Mal said.

 

[strider]

So a perspective from someone without any baggage - my wife.

She rarely watches any football except for Origin. She watched the whole game last night which was unusual.

A couple of things - she is now a massive Gutho fan. She marvelled at his involvement and energy. Secondly, she was of the view that the effort was there but they were just a little unlucky at times and occasionally a bit dumb.

After losing MJ, Sivo and Fergo we did better than most thought we would. You only have to go back and look at comments on the forum yesterday morning!

That said it still sucks that we have come up short. It’s only after a game of golf this morning and a couple of Coopers that I have gained some perspective. I was f**ken pissed off last night!

she just likes Gutho's gyrating hips and flowing locks

 

[Kornstar]

she just likes Gutho's gyrating hips and flowing locks

Who doesn't......oh wait.....

 

[Avenger]

I don't think it affects anyone except the fans. The players and coaches wouldn't give a f**k. Most of them wouldn't even remember those games, if they ever watched them in the first place.

As for why we seem to drop our bundle in big games I reckon it's for the same reason we did under Smith. We overachieve (due to Smith's tactics and Arthur's drive) so that we end up in a lot of games we aren't really entitled to win based on our roster. We hardly ever have players in Origin, compared to the top sides, and we lack the on field generals (the best clubs have several) to grip shit up when it starts to go wrong.

Gutherson is a great leader and Dylan Brown showed plenty of heart last night. But his inexperience was really evident. The merkin was still eligible for Jersey Flegg this year. He will be a great player, and we have the makings of a pretty good team. I expect us to be at least as good next year, depending on recruitment (including replacing Mennings, if necessary) and injury. It looks like we're going to have f**k all NRL experience outside our top 17, which hasn't been the case in recent years.

Good post, Pou.

 

[Gary Gutful]

We've got a devil in our dick and some demons in our semen.

 

[Twizzle]

this subject is like believing in the Easter Bunny and fairies

all in the mind