Paterson

[Mario chalmers]

From where in was sitting Patterson was ineffective.

8 hit ups for 54 metres supports that statement.
Very slow to move in defence as well

 

[Vic Mackey]

Paterson had a shocker, No one is denying that. I'm just saying I wouldn't throw him on the scrap heap yet. We don't exactly have a heap of backrowers and he does have talent.

 

[BrotherJim05]

Yeah i have decided to reserve judgement untill the end of Round 5. Considering we have to play the bunnies rd 3...its not looking good

 

[Matchball]

I didn't get to watch the Dragons game but today I was impressed by this guy.
He is big and has good defence. Where did he come from?

 

[Vic Mackey]

He helped out brOoks hugely in defence today

Playing out of position in the centers I thought he was great, will only get better imo

 

[Shanghai Charlie]

Newcastle, Cowgirls, UK. Very good today mostly at centre covering Lawrence injury.
A bigger better Fulton.

 

[macnaz]

Couldn't fault him today . Great game .

 

[BrotherJim05]

His real test will be against the bunnies. They have a very good back row so will be interesting to see how he steps up.

If he plays with the same heart as he did against GCT...could be very damaging, even for Bunnies defence

 

[Dr Gonzo]

Had a good game on Sunday. He makes good metres up the middle even though he seemed to be playing out of position.

 

[Old Time Tiger]

One good game from 2 but, confidence is a great thing and because of that, if all of the forwards are fit for next week, I'd stick with them.

Paterson, I think would do the G Ellis role pretty well and help with supporting Brooks. Far better to have him out there and let Blair and Thompson play tight.

 

[innsaneink]

One good game from 2 but, confidence is a great thing and because of that, if all of the forwards are fit for next week, I'd stick with them.

Paterson, I think would do the G Ellis role pretty well and help with supporting Brooks. Far better to have him out there and let Blair and Thompson play tight.

Thats a coincidence.

You could say the same for the team.

 

[madunit]

Paterson needs to be Brooks' minder in defence. Souths will be running Burgesses as Brooks all night. I'd even suggest Fulton at Lock so he can help look after Brooks as well.

 

[Old Time Tiger]

MU, it will be an interesting selection meeting today if Fulton is OK to return. Who do you drop?

Not getting ahead of myself but to see how the young guys reacted on the weekend to some tries and tackles was so good. They really do need to keep it up and it does make it harder for some favorites to walk back into the team, i.e. Siro, Fulton, BMM - but I guess that we all know that at least Siro and Fulton are penciled in to replace A & B (my thinking is that Thompson will be 1st to go)

I too would prefer to have Fulton as another minder for Brooks, the others (forwards) have the size and enthusiasm to take the ball up and I'd want Fulton to just be the defensive player he is good at.

innsaneink - yes, could have said it about the 'team' but with Simona returning last weekend, I assume there was going to be a change immediately in the backs for this week - that was prior to the Titans game but as we now know, Lawrence is out. - As for the forwards, I thought Siro was still a couple of weeks and was unsure about Fulton and his concussion.

So assume now that if Fulton is OK he comes back in as does Simona for Lawrence.

 

[madunit]

MU, it will be an interesting selection meeting today if Fulton is OK to return. Who do you drop?

Not getting ahead of myself but to see how the young guys reacted on the weekend to some tries and tackles was so good. They really do need to keep it up and it does make it harder for some favorites to walk back into the team, i.e. Siro, Fulton, BMM - but I guess that we all know that at least Siro and Fulton are penciled in to replace A & B (my thinking is that Thompson will be 1st to go)

I too would prefer to have Fulton as another minder for Brooks, the others (forwards) have the size and enthusiasm to take the ball up and I'd want Fulton to just be the defensive player he is good at.

Easy, drop Thompson the plodder.

13 - Fulton
12 - Blair
11 - Paterson
10 - Taupau
9 - Farah
8 - Woods

7 - Brooks
6 - Austin/Anasta

5 - Richards
4 - Nufoaluma
3 - Simona
2 - Koroibete

1 - Tedesco

14 - Galloway
15 - Gavet
16 - Seumanufagai
17 - Sue

just to be different lol

but thats the team i'd name for the Souths game, if Lawrence is injured. I'd only consider keeping Anasta because he can at least look after himself in defence and not be a turnstyle. That's the only benefit he has over Austin right now. And when we have to carry Koroibete and protect Brooks, who will have all of Souths running at him, we can't really carry to many more suspect defenders on the field.

 

[Radical Rat]

Easy, drop Thompson the plodder.

13 - Fulton
12 - Blair
11 - Paterson
10 - Taupau
9 - Farah
8 - Woods

7 - Brooks
6 - Austin/Anasta

5 - Richards
4 - Nufoaluma
3 - Simona
2 - Koroibete

1 - Tedesco

14 - Galloway
15 - Gavet
16 - Seumanufagai
17 - Sue

just to be different lol

but thats the team i'd name for the Souths game, if Lawrence is injured. I'd only consider keeping Anasta because he can at least look after himself in defence and not be a turnstyle. That's the only benefit he has over Austin right now. And when we have to carry Koroibete and protect Brooks, who will have all of Souths running at him, we can't really carry to many more suspect defenders on the field.

MU, Austin's defence is fine. It has never been a problem in the 13 man game. He's bigger and stronger than Anasta. You have got it in your head that he has defensive problems based on the 9's. You can't base anything on that mickey mouse tournament. No facets of 9's are comparable to NRL.

Also IMO Nofoaluma has to stay on the wing. Some of his takes under the high ball last week were all class. Koro would have made an absolute meal of them. Even though I think Lulia is a bit of a plodder, Koro is just way too much of a liability for first grade at the moment.

And the forward pack is fine, but Blair has to play in the middle like an extra prop. He can't be hiding out on the edges if Patterson and Fulton are starting with him in the backrow.

I'd be more inclined towards:

13. Sue
12. Fulton
11. Patterson

 

[madunit]

because tackling is different in the 9's is it? No facet is the same, except that both use rugby league rules, the object is to score tries and to stop the opposition from doing so. I don't care if you are playing 2's or 3's, you still need to know how to tackle effectively and that is the same in every version of the game, no matter how hard you stamp your feet and demand that Rugby League 9's is essentially golf. Dumb argument.

My opinion of Austin's defence is based on what I saw of him playing for Penrith.

The 9's didn't surprise me regarding his defence. It's always been untidy and lacking in a decent technique. His defence in the 9's was the worst I've ever seen it, so I'm not basing it on that at all.

The purpose behind Fulton at Lock, is to allow him to help Paterson to protect Brooks when Souths are running their forwards at him all day. If you put Paterson and Fulton on either sides of the field, Brooks will still be exposed. Blair will be tighter in if he's in the second row anyways, when he's lock he wanders a long way towards the edges to defend. He'll also be on the other side of the field to Brooks and will have less traffic running at him. Given Blair has a tendency to miss several tackles a game, means he is less likely to be a defensive issue there as well.

Blair has been at Lock the last two weeks and given how Woods, Galloway and Taupau performed on the weekend, I don't want Blair in that rotation. Blair managed to make 100+ metres standing out wider, so attack wise, back row suits him more if our front row is going forward.

Lulia is not first grade material and doesn't deserve to be in the top side. Koroibete will still have Simona nearby, and if neccessary, they can switch positions in defence, that bit is easy.

Nofo is a better centre than Lulia.

 

[Radical Rat]

because tackling is different in the 9's is it? No facet is the same, except that both use rugby league rules, the object is to score tries and to stop the opposition from doing so. I don't care if you are playing 2's or 3's, you still need to know how to tackle effectively and that is the same in every version of the game, no matter how hard you stamp your feet and demand that Rugby League 9's is essentially golf. Dumb argument.

My opinion of Austin's defence is based on what I saw of him playing for Penrith.

The 9's didn't surprise me regarding his defence. It's always been untidy and lacking in a decent technique. His defence in the 9's was the worst I've ever seen it, so I'm not basing it on that at all.

The purpose behind Fulton at Lock, is to allow him to help Paterson to protect Brooks when Souths are running their forwards at him all day. If you put Paterson and Fulton on either sides of the field, Brooks will still be exposed. Blair will be tighter in if he's in the second row anyways, when he's lock he wanders a long way towards the edges to defend. He'll also be on the other side of the field to Brooks and will have less traffic running at him. Given Blair has a tendency to miss several tackles a game, means he is less likely to be a defensive issue there as well.

Blair has been at Lock the last two weeks and given how Woods, Galloway and Taupau performed on the weekend, I don't want Blair in that rotation. Blair managed to make 100+ metres standing out wider, so attack wise, back row suits him more if our front row is going forward.

Lulia is not first grade material and doesn't deserve to be in the top side. Koroibete will still have Simona nearby, and if neccessary, they can switch positions in defence, that bit is easy.

Nofo is a better centre than Lulia.

I'm not going to bother arguing with you regarding the differences between 9's and NRL. If you cannot understand the huge differences between both forms of the games then it is all clearly beyond your comprehension. Your black and white view that "they both use rugby league rules" is the truly dumb argument.

As for his defence at Penrith I don't think he had any issues at all. He played in the back row half the time. I'd be interested to hear any Panthers fans opinion on it.

And I have no doubt Nofo is a better centre than Lulia, however Koro is not up to first grade at the moment. He is way too much of a liability. Lulia isn't going to singlehandedly lose us a game, Koro is very likely too and has in the past. Not just through his poor hands, but his defensive reads as well.

 

[madunit]

okay Rugby League 9's is more like golf than rugby league.

Because 9's has no similarities or resemblance to anything like Rugby League at all.

You win.

He had issues with his defence at Penrith, he was often paired up with Plum who helped him out. He tends to have a lazy technique. it can be fixed, but he's not a rock solid defender you seem to think he is.

Koro is more up to first grade standard than Lulia. There's no point having a mung bean who can't do anything at centre, if that's all you want, why not just play Adam Blair or Braith Anasta out there then?

 

[Radical Rat]

okay Rugby League 9's is more like golf than rugby league.

Because 9's has no similarities or resemblance to anything like Rugby League at all.

You win.

He had issues with his defence at Penrith, he was often paired up with Plum who helped him out. He tends to have a lazy technique. it can be fixed, but he's not a rock solid defender you seem to think he is.

Koro is more up to first grade standard than Lulia. There's no point having a mung bean who can't do anything at centre, if that's all you want, why not just play Adam Blair or Braith Anasta out there then?

You're the only one that keeps comparing it to golf. I haven't said that once.

Well we have different opinions on his defensive capabilities. IMO he is more than capable of taking care of himself, he's certainly not the turn style that you think he is.

He can do everything that Anasta does and he brings much more to the table. Put it this way, would Anasta have been capable of scoring a hat trick and kicking a 40/20 in state cup last week? Absolutely no chance in the world. Not to mention the fact that one bloke is an up and coming 23yr old and the other one is retiring at the end of the year after playing 2-3 seasons too long.

Like I said, Lulia may not be a superstar but he seems pretty solid. Koro should not be playing first grade. He's not up to it, it's as simple as that. He will lose us games. I'm not totally sold on Lulia as any sort of long term solution, but I just think Koro there is a recipe for disaster.

 

[madunit]

You're the only one that keeps comparing it to golf. I haven't said that once.

Well we have different opinions on his defensive capabilities. IMO he is more than capable of taking care of himself, he's certainly not the turn style that you think he is.

He can do everything that Anasta does and he brings much more to the table. Put it this way, would Anasta have been capable of scoring a hat trick and kicking a 40/20 in state cup last week? Absolutely no chance in the world. Not to mention the fact that one bloke is an up and coming 23yr old and the other one is retiring at the end of the year after playing 2-3 seasons too long.

Like I said, Lulia may not be a superstar but he seems pretty solid. Koro should not be playing first grade. He's not up to it, it's as simple as that. He will lose us games. I'm not totally sold on Lulia as any sort of long term solution, but I just think Koro there is a recipe for disaster.

I didn't say you said it was like golf, i mention golf because it's nothing like 13 a-side Rugby League, which is the point you're trying to make.

I didn't say he was a turnstyle, I said he has a bad technique and can get lazy. both things are easy to fix. My point is that Anasta is a better defender than him. That's all I've said. Austin is a better player, I've no doubts about that. I suggested that Ansta plays against Souths purely because he's a better defender, therefore we only have one weak defender in the team who Souths will run at. I suggested Fulton at Lock and Paterson in the back row so that they could defend on either side of Brooks which will save him from being targetted, sure up our defence and minimise Souths impact. I suggested Blair in the back row because he misses tackles as well and with Souths trying to run through Brooks, with Fulton and Paterson there, it means Blair is on the other side of the ruck, out of the way defensively. Blair also went okay in attack last week out wide.

I know Koro has poor hands and bad defensive reads, but any good sliding defence can protect half his issue. As I said, in defence switch him with Simona, solves the other issue.