Pathetic !!!

[imported_Outlaw]

Most posts we get here usually add to the discussion taking place, but I suppose that doesn't mean all posts have to.

Why don't you keep your half-arsed comments to yourself, Noodles?
The guy made a post. Who are you to judge whether it's adding to the discussion or not? FMD mate,you're not even the bloody thread starter to make such a stupid remark.
Oh but of course, where was my thinking,you're the guy who always contributes posts on these boardswhich add to the discussion taking place.
Yeah FR!

 

[imported_Outlaw]

BTW Willow, sorry I didn't give the source of the photo I posted earlier this morning.

It was too bloody late/early in the morning to think straight.

 

[imported_Noodles]

Ummmm OK (walking away slowly)

Thanks my heart feels much better now - but he still thinks my liver may be plotting against him.

Sorry I didn't meant to have a go at you, I was just trying to understand you're point of view- no need to be so defensive.

Hopefully if you see it, then you'll give your thoughts on the incident and the repercussions.

 

[CyberKev]

Legend

Farrar, Hagan, Stuart, Simmons, Meninga, Anderson, Langmack, Lamb and Gould all won premierships as a player and although it's not a pre-requiste for success, it does play a part. IMO, if they want success, Daley should be the coach, not Brown.

Farrar, Simmons, Meninga, Langmack and Lamb don't exactly jump into my mind when I'm thinking about "successful" coaches, but I can see the point that you're trying to make. I don't concur, however, as premierships are won by teams not individuals, and not having played in a flag side yourself shouldn't automatically preclude you from leading a team to one (if you have the smarts and the calibre of cattle to do it with). The Dragons appear to be falling down badly with the latter.

Thanks for clarifying your point about winning culture. What you say makes sense, although it is worth noting that the Roosters were seen as vulnerable in this area prior to last season, as -- most certainly -- were the Warriors. This would suggest that winning culture, in this definition, is a fleeting and rapidly changing variable.

I tend to agree with most of what you said in your post, although I still think its a bit rich to be writing off a rookie coach six weeks intohis debut season. I'm sure Ricky Stuart would tell you as much, given that he was also 1-4 at this stage of the 2003 season. Brown was always going to need some time to force effective changes. You'd have to say that Chris Anderson has more to work with at Cronulla, but even he is having almighty problems reversing long-ingrained trends.

CyberKev

 

[imported_Noodles]

Outlaw

I choose to put my half arsed comments on the internet instead that's why.

I though he was making a point that I couldn't quite understand, I don't see what is wrong with trying to understand other people's opinions on league.

It is the reason I enjoy visiting this website.

I doubt you know anything about me andI sure as hell don't have a clue what type of person you are so I'll take you opinions on me with an extra helping of salt.

 

[imported_Outlaw]

I don't know the guy from a bar of soap Noodles,so it's not like I was sticking up for a mate. I interpreted it like you were having a go at a new member and wanted him (Infuser) to know that his input here is welcomed as much as the next guy or gals's. Even yours.
I stand behind the post I made directed to you and I make no appologies. I still think you were having a subttle stab with your "most posts we get here usually add to the discussion taking place, but I suppose that doesn't mean all posts have to" comment. Whether you admit it or not.
I doubt you know anything about me andI sure as hell don't have a clue what type of person you are so I'll take you opinions on me with an extra helping of salt.
That's true. And pass over a healthy serving of that salt while your at it.
I'll drop it here. Sorry to others for the breakdown in the thread discussion.

 

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[ozbash]

passion,,, its all about passion.

being able to play footy helps as well, i suppose

 

[imported_Noodles]

Outlaw

"I interpreted it like you were having a go at a new member and wanted him (Infuser) to know that his input here is welcomed as much as the next guy or gals's"

I apologised to Infuzer in an earlier post, and I invited him to post again once he has seen it. .... and I did all this before you butted in.

 

[imported_Noodles]

Ooops just re-read things and you're psot did go up before my apology.

But I didn't read your initial remarks until after my post 43

 

[Johnsy]

The key ingredient to a wining culture is a combination of wanting to win it for every person you are playing with, every member of your club, the guy who you dont like in your team, and yourself. You must have the passion, a passion that tells you your jumper is the only one worth playing for, the passion to get the better of your opponent in every facet of the game, no matter how small (J Hodges a perfect example) and most importantly pride. Each player must have each one of these qualities, but more importantly the 17 must have it as a unit (the key ingredient to a winning culture).

I just dont see the 17 we are picking at the moment having it, that is not to say we cant have it or get it there are many weeks to go. This incident will make or break our year, the character of each player will determine if it makes or breaks us.

I will always have the faith it can be done.

Johnsy

 

[imported_Noodles]

Spot on Johnsy

Just from my experiences playing crap amateur sport, I've notived that when you are in a winning team, you start thinking you will win every week.

It makes it very easy to lift you're game in situations when teams get a good start on you- you lift your game without panicking, because you know you have enough talent to come through. You still lose the odd game, but it is just that - an odd game

We panick way too often - occaisionally we pull off the odd miracle (eg Blacklock v West Tigers in 2001) but usually it just goes from bad to worse.

I'd love to see that part of our club's culture change.

Problem is you have to win a few games for it to work !!

Think back to the Newcaste game at the SFS last year boys, you have the talent in the team to beat anyone- please start believing in it.

 

[Willow]

Johnsy and Noodles, its a toughie but think you've both done well to describe the notion of this so-called 'winning culture'.

There was a term often used by Norm Provan and one that he still uses whenever the media pins him for some pearls of wisdom. He called it the 'habit of winning'.

Put simply, supporting your team mates is paramount. Its breeds confidence in each other and creates a team spirit. This in turn breeds more confidence and the belief that winning is normal. Sure,victory still has be fought out but by believing in the team, the prospect of winning each week isnt looked upon as being a struggle. Even when the opposition hits the lead, there is a belief that winning is likely.

Sounds simple, but buggered if I know what the formula is.

BTW, Its not my intention to drag up the names of past greats but imo, whether its 1963 or 2003, the complexities of confidence (or lack thereof) are the same.