Penalty Differentials

[mongoose]

its not about how many penalties you get, its how many of them were fair and 100% of penalties against the raiders have been incorrect.

 

[Bigcoq]

Penalties mean SFA! The 2 points is all that counts.

 

[DiegoNT]

Penalties mean SFA! The 2 points is all that counts.

I can't believe I'm going to agree with you. Roosters success over the last 3 years show that penalty differentials mean sfa

 

[Dutchy]

Current Streak: number of games played in a row without receiving > 7 penalties a game, per club:
Stats courtesy of: http://afltables.com/rl/rl_index.html

Broncos ? 1
Raiders ? 0
Bulldogs ? 0
Sharks ? 0
Titans ? 1
Manly ? 0
Storm ? 0
Warriors ? 0
Knights ? 1
Cowboys ? 2
Eels ? 2
Panthers ? 1
Rabbitohs ? 2
Dragons ? 0
Tigers ? 1
Roosters ? 36

Oh the humanity indeed.

P.S.

Thank you linesmen, thank you ballboys. Shut this thread down because everyone just got owned. Why? BECAUSE LOOK AT THAT FOOKING STAT!!

That stat doesn't prove shit, for all we know the last round for most of those teams could have been their first time receiving > 7 penalties for the first time in 37 games :roll::sarcasm:

 

[Tommy Smith]

Yes. And the Tooth Fairy is real.

 

[Valheru]

A draw in the penalty count is the best we can hope for. In the case of the Tigers, one of their penalties was a kick off on the full and another, the most blatant double movement of all time. I would imagine 3 penalties conceded by them in defence is yet another example of a team magically becoming more disciplined.

 

[Tommy Smith]

That stat doesn't prove shit, for all we know the last round for most of those teams could have been their first time receiving > 7 penalties for the first time in 37 games :roll::sarcasm:

For the sake of discerning a pattern:

The last three streaks for each club of 'Consecutive Games Played without Receiving 8 or more Penalties'... with the current streak denoted by '*'. Stats courtesy of: http://afltables.com/rl/rl_index.html

Brisbane – 1*, 1, 4,
Canberra – 1*, 8, 2
Canterbury – 1*, 3, 1
Cronulla – 0*, 0, 3
Gold Coast – 2*, 0, 2
Manly – 1*, 5, 0
Melbourne – 0*, 0, 0
New Zealand – 0*, 0, 1
Newcastle – 2*, 1, 0
North QLD – 3*, 3, 0
Parramatta – 3*, 1, 7
Penrith – 1*, 0, 0
Souths – 2*, 4, 1
St George Illa – 0*, 3, 0
Syd Roosters – 36*, 6, 3
Wests Tigers – 1*, 3, 0

I don't see how anyone can attribute that other worldly outlier to mere chance. The truth is simple - our games are currently refereed differently.

During 2013 we conceded an exorbitant amount of penalties, and we still do from time to time. But the noticeable change since then is that we now never receive an avalanche of penalties in any game - different to every other club by a long, long, long way.

But yes, yes, I'm a whinger with no facts to back up my argument :sarcasm: I'm not suggesting that the NRL is deliberately out to get us; merely that our games are refereed differently and our opposition are held to different standards when they play us. And the stats back this up resoundingly.

 

[POPEYE]

For the sake of discerning a pattern:

The last three streaks for each club of 'Consecutive Games Played without Receiving 8 or more Penalties'... with the current streak denoted by '*'. Stats courtesy of: http://afltables.com/rl/rl_index.html

Brisbane ? 1*, 1, 4,
Canberra ? 1*, 8, 2
Canterbury ? 1*, 3, 1
Cronulla ? 0*, 0, 3
Gold Coast ? 2*, 0, 2
Manly ? 1*, 5, 0
Melbourne ? 0*, 0, 0
New Zealand ? 0*, 0, 1
Newcastle ? 2*, 1, 0
North QLD ? 3*, 3, 0
Parramatta ? 3*, 1, 7
Penrith ? 1*, 0, 0
Souths ? 2*, 4, 1
St George Illa ? 0*, 3, 0
Syd Roosters ? 36, 6, 3
Wests Tigers ? 1*, 3, 0

I don't see how anyone can attribute that other worldly outlier to mere chance. The truth is simple - our games are currently refereed differently.

During 2013 we conceded an exorbitant amount of penalties, and we still do from time to time. But the noticeable change since then is that we now never receive an avalanche of penalties in any game - different to every other club by a long, long, long way.

But yes, yes, I'm a whinger with no facts to back up my argument :sarcasm: I'm not suggesting that the NRL is deliberately out to get us; merely that our games are refereed differently and our opposition are held to different standards when they play us. And the stats back this up resoundingly.

Keep up the good work ol' mate, we need less penalties and more 'play on'. Have you researched where on the field penalties are given, there was a leading ref in the 80's who used to give his favoured team penalties in the opposition half and the opposition in their half . . . of course the count was always even

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

Keep up the good work ol' mate, we need less penalties and more 'play on'. Have you researched where on the field penalties are given, there was a leading ref in the 80's who used to give his favoured team penalties in the opposition half and the opposition in their half . . . of course the count was always even

I think i know the ref you are referring to

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

For the sake of discerning a pattern:

The last three streaks for each club of 'Consecutive Games Played without Receiving 8 or more Penalties'... with the current streak denoted by '*'. Stats courtesy of: http://afltables.com/rl/rl_index.html

Brisbane ? 1*, 1, 4,
Canberra ? 1*, 8, 2
Canterbury ? 1*, 3, 1
Cronulla ? 0*, 0, 3
Gold Coast ? 2*, 0, 2
Manly ? 1*, 5, 0
Melbourne ? 0*, 0, 0
New Zealand ? 0*, 0, 1
Newcastle ? 2*, 1, 0
North QLD ? 3*, 3, 0
Parramatta ? 3*, 1, 7
Penrith ? 1*, 0, 0
Souths ? 2*, 4, 1
St George Illa ? 0*, 3, 0
Syd Roosters ? 36*, 6, 3
Wests Tigers ? 1*, 3, 0

I don't see how anyone can attribute that other worldly outlier to mere chance. The truth is simple - our games are currently refereed differently.

During 2013 we conceded an exorbitant amount of penalties, and we still do from time to time. But the noticeable change since then is that we now never receive an avalanche of penalties in any game - different to every other club by a long, long, long way.

But yes, yes, I'm a whinger with no facts to back up my argument :sarcasm: I'm not suggesting that the NRL is deliberately out to get us; merely that our games are refereed differently and our opposition are held to different standards when they play us. And the stats back this up resoundingly.

I think there is nothing in your stats. I refuse to believe the NRL or referees act with anything other than 100% integrity. I also think all bankers are honest, Josh Reynolds is a perfect role model for all young kids playing the game and Mitchell Pearce is NSW's greatest ever halfback.

 

[POPEYE]

I think there is nothing in your stats. I refuse to believe the NRL or referees act with anything other than 100% integrity. I also think all bankers are honest, Josh Reynolds is a perfect role model for all young kids playing the game and Mitchell Pearce is NSW's greatest ever halfback.

Yep. I'll go along with that. You can add, 2 referees are better than 1, concussion rules won't be manipulated, poaching is better than claiming, decisions can't be changed, Origin has the best players, Todd does not do preferential, penalties have to be given and all cats are black at night . . . that last one especially true for young blokes who wake up with someone different than they went to bed with

 

[oldmancraigy]

For the sake of discerning a pattern:

The last three streaks for each club of 'Consecutive Games Played without Receiving 8 or more Penalties'... with the current streak denoted by '*'. Stats courtesy of: http://afltables.com/rl/rl_index.html

Brisbane ? 1*, 1, 4,
Canberra ? 1*, 8, 2
Canterbury ? 1*, 3, 1
Cronulla ? 0*, 0, 3
Gold Coast ? 2*, 0, 2
Manly ? 1*, 5, 0
Melbourne ? 0*, 0, 0
New Zealand ? 0*, 0, 1
Newcastle ? 2*, 1, 0
North QLD ? 3*, 3, 0
Parramatta ? 3*, 1, 7
Penrith ? 1*, 0, 0
Souths ? 2*, 4, 1
St George Illa ? 0*, 3, 0
Syd Roosters ? 36*, 6, 3
Wests Tigers ? 1*, 3, 0

I don't see how anyone can attribute that other worldly outlier to mere chance. The truth is simple - our games are currently refereed differently.

During 2013 we conceded an exorbitant amount of penalties, and we still do from time to time. But the noticeable change since then is that we now never receive an avalanche of penalties in any game - different to every other club by a long, long, long way.

But yes, yes, I'm a whinger with no facts to back up my argument :sarcasm: I'm not suggesting that the NRL is deliberately out to get us; merely that our games are refereed differently and our opposition are held to different standards when they play us. And the stats back this up resoundingly.

More concerning is the Storm. Are the stats fairdinkum? They have never ever played a game where they received less than 8 penalties :shock: :shock:

 

[Tommy Smith]

Sorry that might be a little deceiving. It just means they've received 8 or more penalties in their last 3 games. Hence the 0, 0, 0. I guess they don't really qualify as streaks lol

Still, how can one team receive 8 or more penalties in their last 3 games, and another team currently be in the midst of 36 consecutive games without that many ONCE?

That's implausible.

 

[POPEYE]

You should have left it where the Roosters have been copping an inordinate amount of penalties for years . . . not worth going into the reasons

 

[oldmancraigy]

Sorry that might be a little deceiving. It just means they've received 8 or more penalties in their last 3 games. Hence the 0, 0, 0. I guess they don't really qualify as streaks lol

Still, how can one team receive 8 or more penalties in their last 3 games, and another team currently be in the midst of 36 consecutive games without that many ONCE?

That's implausible.

I'm completely lost by the point of those figures then? If a 0 simply means 0 games in a row without 8 penalties, then it is a pointless exercise isn't it?

I mean (picking random teams), look at the Manly figures, they are on a 1 game streak, their previous streak was 5 (until broken), and before that, they had no streak (ie, it reads logically that their streak was permanent before then).

Just seems you are comparing apples to oranges if it isn't actual streaks of games without 8 penalties (which it is for the Roosters, but apparently not for all the teams!)

 

[Tommy Smith]

If a team received 8 pens, 9 pens, 8 pens in 3 straight games... then they didn't have to go a single game without receiving > 7 penalties. Hence the 0, 0, 0. That makes perfect sense. You can't receive 8+ every game and thus be absolved from the statistic. You do record the '0s' if you're looking for meaningful stats. That's just common sense.

 

[firechild]

If a team received 8 pens, 9 pens, 8 pens in 3 straight games... then they didn't have to go a single game without receiving > 7 penalties. Hence the 0, 0, 0. That makes perfect sense. You can't receive 8+ every game and thus be absolved from the statistic. You do record the '0s' if you're looking for meaningful stats. That's just common sense.

You never learned how statistics work did you?

 

[Tommy Smith]

I did. It seems you didn't.

Ducks are counted towards a batsman's batting avg. If a batsman scores 0, 0, 0 - he averages 0. Hard to believe, I know. And if his next score is 1, he averages 0.25, not 1. Mind boggling stuff, right?!

 

[Lambretta]

That stat doesn't prove shit, for all we know the last round for most of those teams could have been their first time receiving > 7 penalties for the first time in 37 games :roll::sarcasm:

Number of times this season more the 7 penalties were awarded

Broncos ? 1 (3 times)
Raiders ? 0 (1 time)
Bulldogs ? 0 (4 times)

I'll finish that later, but I think you'll find there won't be many other teams with a 1 next to their name.....

 

[Lambretta]

Tigers
Average number of penalties conceded per game before playing the Roosters 8.625 per game
Number conceded the week before playing the Roosters 10
Number conceded against the Roosters 5

We certainly do bring out the best behaviour in others :lol: