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Tiger5150

Tiger5150

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I hate Penrith because of Ivan, buses, Josh Reynolds, Russel Packer, Ivan, smugness and Ivan....but I have to admire them and the way they are playing. I aspire to this level of smug.Little tip of my Tigers members cap to the smug ones....
 
Tiger5150

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Rugged Rigid Robust Roy said:
As a Penrith fan who went to school at one of Sydney's most elite secondary schools, I was made to feel inferior, I was laughed at and made fun of and the other children threw things at me and said you are unworthy Westie Trash. I kept myself to myself. Most of my life has been spent living quietly, very lonely, not going out much or if so, keeping to a corner of the room. Now nearing 64, I have resigned myself to the fact I will be without friends but to be honest, I prefer it that way. People let you down and I have had some nasty comments made about me from neighbours and strangers passing by me in the street when I wear my Penrith Panthers gear. At least I can return home and punch my pillow where nobody can see or hear me; plus I receive unconditional love from my cat, so all is not lost.

But now like the fiery phoenix, the Penny Panthers have risen and finally after all these years, I seem to have some value in my life. God Bless You Nathan Cleary, I hope you get to twerk your way up the premiership dais this year with your tik tok friends. We deserve it.
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Im sorry you were called Westie Trash, you didnt deserve that. It shouldnt matter where trash comes from.
 
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Floodwaters

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Tiger5150 said:
I hate Penrith because of Ivan, buses, Josh Reynolds, Russel Packer, Ivan, smugness and Ivan....but I have to admire them and the way they are playing. I aspire to this level of smug.Little tip of my Tigers members cap to the smug ones....
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The great Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse once said great teams make a great coach... and TBH he is right, I could have that Penrith side Top.
 
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Rugged Rigid Robust Roy

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As a Penrith Panthers fan, I was ostracized during high school, then also on the internet. I felt suicidal for a short while, a complete helplessness in not understanding why people didn't like me or the Penrith Panthers. People used to make fun of us and our team and about being Westies. The most cruel bullies will find ways of ostracising you, while making you beg for them to tell you what's wrong with you so you can fix yourself. My bully never told me, and I don't think I'll ever know what I did wrong other than having the audacity to exist.

This was in a community that was supposed to be supportive for people who had been ostracized, but it seems it was just a front for bullies to lure in new targets they could torment. I'd advise not to trust a community that claims to be a haven for outcasts without lurking first to see if they're honest.

it should be understood as the serious violence it is. I call it sociolence. It's just one form of sociolece or social violence. Many like the idea of it as something they can get away with, while they wouldn't allow themselves to bludgeon someone with a baseball bat. There are many, I deeply believe, who would opt to be bludgeoned with a baseball bat, or carted off on a train to Auschwitz. In Auschwitz, one had a dream of the outside, but in ostracism, the outside itself becomes the concentration camp. In extreme form, it may be one of the most severe violence's possible. It is disgusting and wrong.

Penrith Panthers fans deserve better than to be made fun of and the butt of all jokes in rugby league circles. We are just people; like you.
 
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Rugged Rigid Robust Roy

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The reality of life is that people with more power are just better able to push their problems onto others. Everyone tries to push their problems on others, but the powerful can be more successful at it.

Being a poor Penrith Panthers fan is like gravity - you feel it every step of the day in some way. Rich roosters or Broncos or Raiders or Manly or even posh North Shore people wouldn't understand. I have trouble finding words to explain it, but being a poor Penrith Panthers fan is cognitively taxing because a poor Penrith Panthers' fan person must constantly be using more mental computing power towards survival because they must feel way more constraint factors when making the smallest decision. It doesn't help that many psychologists can become psychologists because they come from a relatively affluent upbringing. This introduces an inherent bias, and we see it against the poor Penrith Panther fans every week via an uncaring media who are only there to bash us and oustracise us and treat us as if we were worthless. We are caring, sharing, loving human beings who need love to. How dare you all exclude us from the conversation and laugh at us and treat us like Westie trash. We are as good as you are and deserve to be treated as normal people. But it is often the people who try and call out bullies who are the biggest bullies of all. They call others' overly emotional or volatile and therefore not worthy of them. This is just another form of bullying which the left winger trendy posh inner city types now do. People attack poor Penrith Panthers fans now for being too emotional, that is just crap. We are people. A persons' emotional ideology should not come into it. People who are non emotional are not more intelligent than people who are emotional. Especially rich people who now fragment conversations to make others believe they can't express themselves. Poor Penrith Panthers fans feel poor every day in ways rich inner city left wing trendies could never understand..

For example, buying butter at the store. Are there any sales? Is that cheaper that the normal cheapest butter I buy? Oh wait, what about clearance items? Clearance aisle is a poor Penrith Panthers' fans lottery ticket. The amount of money that can be saved by checking it each time you’re at the store is phenomenal. On a small margin of “fun money”, that type of energy investment is worth it. On the other hand, rich people probably avoid clearance items more likely than not because...why would you buy a clearance item that might go bad sooner when it makes no difference to buy the brand new one?

I’m no psychologist, but I imagine having to weigh more factors when making purchase decisions why a rich Roosters or Broncos or Manly fans might not understand other facets of what it’s like to be poor Penrith Panthers' fan.

But Poor Penrith Panthers' fans are the most resourceful people I know.
 
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Cactus

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Rugged Rigid Robust Roy said:
The reality of life is that people with more power are just better able to push their problems onto others. Everyone tries to push their problems on others, but the powerful can be more successful at it.

Being a poor Penrith Panthers fan is like gravity - you feel it every step of the day in some way. Rich roosters or Broncos or Raiders or Manly or even posh North Shore people wouldn't understand. I have trouble finding words to explain it, but being a poor Penrith Panthers fan is cognitively taxing because a poor Penrith Panthers' fan person must constantly be using more mental computing power towards survival because they must feel way more constraint factors when making the smallest decision. It doesn't help that many psychologists can become psychologists because they come from a relatively affluent upbringing. This introduces an inherent bias, and we see it against the poor Penrith Panther fans every week via an uncaring media who are only there to bash us and oustracise us and treat us as if we were worthless. We are caring, sharing, loving human beings who need love to. How dare you all exclude us from the conversation and laugh at us and treat us like Westie trash. We are as good as you are and deserve to be treated as normal people. But it is often the people who try and call out bullies who are the biggest bullies of all. They call others' overly emotional or volatile and therefore not worthy of them. This is just another form of bullying which the left winger trendy posh inner city types now do. People attack poor Penrith Panthers fans now for being too emotional, that is just crap. We are people. A persons' emotional ideology should not come into it. People who are non emotional are not more intelligent than people who are emotional. Especially rich people who now fragment conversations to make others believe they can't express themselves. Poor Penrith Panthers fans feel poor every day in ways rich inner city left wing trendies could never understand..

For example, buying butter at the store. Are there any sales? Is that cheaper that the normal cheapest butter I buy? Oh wait, what about clearance items? Clearance aisle is a poor Penrith Panthers' fans lottery ticket. The amount of money that can be saved by checking it each time you’re at the store is phenomenal. On a small margin of “fun money”, that type of energy investment is worth it. On the other hand, rich people probably avoid clearance items more likely than not because...why would you buy a clearance item that might go bad sooner when it makes no difference to buy the brand new one?

I’m no psychologist, but I imagine having to weigh more factors when making purchase decisions why a rich Roosters or Broncos or Manly fans might not understand other facets of what it’s like to be poor Penrith Panthers' fan.

But Poor Penrith Panthers' fans are the most resourceful people I know.
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Allow me to translate this for all other posters here.

The good, resourceful people of Penrith, like to steal butter.

You are welcome.
 
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Rugged Rigid Robust Roy

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Your comments are just another example of the so called rich elites trying to bully us poor Penrith Panther fans. Its typical of the whole situation that me and many other Penrith Panther fans have had to face since we have been in kindergarten. Either socially outraised or belittled. There really is something horridly wrong with our society when people talk of mental health and then use it to bully others.

When I was training to be a Lifeline counsellor many years ago, we had to do call scenario practice. One day I was paired with a girl who was a psychology student and the scenario was someone calling who was so poor they could only put $5 worth of fuel in their car. This young chick was just incredulous- “That doesn’t happen? Who would do that?!”

Methinks she wasn’t paying her own way through university.

Penrith Panther fans know though. We know what it is like to have nothing, to be born of nothing and to have to worry about not having food or clothes and then having so called elites laugh at you because you look different and then this makes you awkward and it just spirals out of control, worse and worse and worse.

I was in a drug court years ago that involved mandatory groups, including RPT (relapse prevention therapy), MRT (moral recognition therapy) and IOP (intensive outpatient therapy). We were all court-ordered to be there, under penalty of jail time or worse.

The day they presented the "internal/external locus of control" (don't ask me which group it was), I looked around me and saw nothing but poor people (yes, all of us were poor) who were forced into this situation. Of course, it could've been my (admittedly biased) perception of the situation, but forcing an addict to do something under duress and then lecturing them about their "external locus of control" seemed rather ironic to me.

If person lacks any other perspective or example then it's high risk that the negative state will be accepted as normal, normal state as good and anything good dismissed as unachievable or unworthy of their status. In some cases it can also lead to dismissal of attempts for positive change in others as it would invalidate the correctness of their judgment. I find this to be especially sad in case of parent-children relationships. The parents can hurt their children or their future not because they intend to but because they genuinely believe their perspective is better.

Therefore I find that it's also important to give people perspective of the possibilities. In my opinion that's the reason why support groups work and why so many movements have gained traction during the age of internet. A lot of people already had the opportunity to improve but did not know either how or that it's possible at all.

This is irrelevant if the people don't have the ability though. I believe addressing economic situation is more effective tool for change currently. I just wanted to point out that ones lifestyle also heavily influences the mentality and that mentality can be spread further.

Poor Penrith Panther fans are more insightful and genuinely more understanding of how to treat others. We have that going for us, even if we are not financially rich or hold an elite status in the NRL kingdom or in modern society.
 
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Rugged Rigid Robust Roy

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Being excluded or ostracized is an invisible form of bullying that doesn’t leave bruises, and therefore we often underestimate its impact ,Being excluded by high school friends, office colleagues, or even spouses or family members can be excruciating. This is how Penrith Panther fans feel. We feel like this all the time and you are just proving this.

You just don't understand, nor do you have the core brain function to ever have to scope to be able to understand.

When a person is ostracized, the brain’s dorsal anterior cingulate cortex, which registers physical pain, also feels this social injury,

The process of ostracism includes three stages:
1. The initial acts of being ignored or excluded
2. Coping
3. Resignation

Fundamental and foundational for our human needs are the feelings of belonging. Exclusion or ostracism is so painful because it threatens this need and the core of our self-esteem. Again and again research has found that strong, harmful reactions are possible even when ostracized by a stranger or for a short amount of time,

Even when being ignored briefly by strangers, with whom the individual will never have any face-to-face interaction, the negative effect is powerful and consistent. This was true even with a great variety of personalities. Like many Penrith Panther fans, I’ve been going through this for years.

Penrith Panther fans know pain. We know pain in having to deal with a society that outraises us in ways you can't even imagine. Some of them subtle but all of them effective in making us feel as low as you bullies want us to feel about ourselves.

Being a bully, is nothing to be proud of.
 
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