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Perth Bears or bust?!

Milhouse2020

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Only reason league is booming again is the mistakes of the super league peace deal are being fixed up

that peace deal has held back the nrl for 30 years and slowly as those clubs that were lost are coming back the game is getting back the fans if lost

Super League wasn't a mistake. It was the catalyst for implementing changes that Rugby League desperately needed to become a modern game.

The ARL was a prehistoric dictatorship that was more interested in preserving their own power than evolving Rugby League into a global game.

The Super League war could have ended much sooner if the ARL had been willing to discuss a peaceful resolution. Instead, they engaged in a propaganda campaign that would have made Goebbels proud.
 

Wb1234

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Oh yeah, I agree it would have been stupid. My point was is it nearly happened and if the criteria was stuck to it probably would have. If we had stayed with the ARL I believe we would have been gone or merged with Parra.

The Bears committing suicide and getting into bed with Manly is what saved us imo.
Yep arl just rolled over and didn’t do much for its clubs

parra and Penrith are on track to being the biggest clubs in Sydney with the population growth over the next 30 years
 
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84 huh? So it was a slow burn

wonder if the broncos were told of this or they came up with the idea on their own

in Mike Coleman’s book a comment by John Quayle to ribot along the lines of if you don’t like how we run the league set up your own was the catylst

uncle Wayne particularly took this as a threat

mcauliffe had the right idea but the number of clubs was too low

Seeing p and r in Australia would’ve been interesting though

two fully pro divisions retaining all the nswrl and brl clubs would’ve been good
Quayle and Arthurson were advocates of Super League long before it became a thing.
 

Steel Saints

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people still going on about the 90s....

Anyone remember Agro's cartoon connection? Massive Broncos fan was Agro.

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Some of us are still talking about the 90's because in that era, Perth and Norths were booted out of the comp. Now there is a likelihood that both will comeback under the one entity as possibly "Perth Bears".

Also we reflect on the criteria at the time in the late nighties. Apparently a new stadium (on the Central Coast) wasn't an important component .

Fast forward to 2021. The NRL announced that team 17 will be The Dolphins. Eighteen months later, The Dolphins made their debut in the NRL. However before the announcement, there was a process in place, where other bidders like the Jets and Firehawks were under consideration for NRL entry.

But the NRL chose The Dolphins because they were an existing club for 75 years in the Qld comp, had pathways in place, where they were going to play (Kayo, Suncorp) and were asset rich.

Compare that with the criteria back in the late nineties, we ended up with three rushed mergers. Example, Norths final game and Northern Eagles first game were only five or six months apart. The newly formed NRL's ambition was to reduce teams down to 14, and not have any careful deliberation on how those mergers were going to function.

In a nutshell, the code has come a long way today.
 
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Wb1234

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Some of us are still talking about the 90's because in that era, Perth and Norths were booted out of the comp. Now there is a likelihood that both will comeback under the one entity as possibly "Perth Bears".

Also we reflect on the criteria at the time in the late nighties. Apparently a new stadium (on the Central Coast) wasn't an important component .

Fast forward to 2021. The NRL announced that team 17 will be The Dolphins. Eighteen months later, The Dolphins made their debut in the NRL. However before the announcement, there was a process in place, where other bidders like the Jets and Firehawks were under consideration for NRL entry.

But the NRL chose The Dolphins because they were an existing club for 75 years in the Qld comp, had pathways in place, where they were going to play (Kayo, Suncorp) and were asset rich.

Compare that with the criteria back in the late nineties, we ended up with three rushed mergers. Example, Norths final game and Northern Eagles first game were only five or six months apart. The newly formed NRL's ambition was to reduce teams down to 14, and not have any careful deliberation on how those mergers were going to function.

In a nutshell, the code has come a long way today.
Plus talking about 95 expansion and how super league killed it off including no new Brisbane club allowed until 2015
 

siv

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Wests & Balmain drew home attendance averages of about 6k in 1994 which was year of record attendance for league. New big city teams like Brisbane, Newcastle & Canberra lead the way. This was genesis for superleague.
Not it wasnt

Pay-TV was the reason

Rugby League was just a pawn

PMT - Packer-Murdoch-Telstra setup Foxtel. The ACCC stepped in 1993 and said they could not do that. Packer was forced to aligned with Optus.

Once the two Pay-TV operation failed, Packer dumped Optus and joined up with Foxtel again. And we have the Pay-TV we had for the next 20 odd years
 

Pippen94

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Not it wasnt

Pay-TV was the reason

Rugby League was just a pawn

PMT - Packer-Murdoch-Telstra setup Foxtel. The ACCC stepped in 1993 and said they could not do that. Packer was forced to aligned with Optus.

Once the two Pay-TV operation failed, Packer dumped Optus and joined up with Foxtel again. And we have the Pay-TV we had for the next 20 odd years

Without success of expansion teams idea of creating new comp would have never been formed.
 
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