Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

[Perth Red]

it is closer then people realise. Will be on par when team 18 comes in BUT that is beside the point.

The small population here limits what local TV can pay. Just this week alone BEIN Sports was announced as leaving Fox/Kayo saves them millions yet the price won't drop.

This is why need to try overseas to maximise income

No it isn’t and won’t get close until the next opportunity in 2028. By then we’ll be hundreds of millions down over the 5 year period, but keep spinning it lol

three different tv bidders all allegedly bid over $500mill for afl. that’s from a previous deal value of $416mill. Seems you’re wrong on that.

try overseas? lol. One event a year isn’t going To crack the toughest sports market in the world.

Again you are comparing

NRL cash only in 2024 - Add 10% contra

To AFL 2031

with Cash and contra + 20% inflation.

Most importantly

20 teams is planned by 2031, In which case the local deal has maximised AND US money is there.

Finally the game has vision and little bitches like you still aren't happy

Neither you nor I know for sure if the publicly announced $2billion nrl deal was cash or cash and contra (thanks to Vlandys underhandedness) .
It might be the first time ever a sports media deal has been announced as cash only, it might be that nrl wanted to undervalue the announcement of the tv deal by $150mill by excluding contra for some bizarre reason. but my view is that is unlikely.

but let’s say you are right, take out the ch9 radio rights and we would be at $395mill cash avg a year until 2027. Afl is around $530mill tv only cash a year from 2025.
so 2025-2027 we are looking at a gap of around $135mill a year best case scenario for us. Add in a gap of $50 mill a year for 23&24 and we are at $500mill between now and 2027.

But hey you say it’s not a bad deal who am I to argue.

 

[Perth Red]

So you 'guarantee' that a 20 team comp will get us 600m? You also 'guarantee' that the US adventure will be less than en expansion.
Wow.
but hey, what would you know.
I can't even guarantee if I'll live past tonight

If I had the power to guarantee revenue on investment I wouldn’t be on here lol

but looking at the odds I’d say yeh a 20 team nrl comp achieving a big increase on current tv and sponsorship revenue has a much bigger chance than cracking the toughest sports market in the world with a sport that has a hundred years history of being unable to achieve new market growth.

 

[bad boy bubby]

If I had the power to guarantee revenue on investment I wouldn’t be on here lol

but looking at the odds I’d say yeh a 20 team nrl comp achieving a big increase on current tv and sponsorship revenue has a much bigger chance than cracking the toughest sports market in the world with a sport that as a hundred years history of being unable to achieve new market growth.

Where are these said 'odds'?
You do mean, "in my opinion", don't you?

 

[Perth Red]

Where are these said 'odds'?
You do mean, "in my opinion", don't you?

i wouldn’t have thought that would have needed saying on a fans message board, or do you think some people can actually accurately read the future with a crystal ball or tea leaves?

and again to show just how hard the market is to crack there, soccer has had hundreds of millions thrown at it over decades, has mega sports stars involved, has a genuine World Cup that America plays in regularly, has a strong grassroots participation league could only dream of And only managed to get a tv deal worth $35mill a year for a full mens and women’s professional league.

but yeh what would I know.

 

[Wb1234]

No way nrl is spending 200 million out of its own money on America

thats click bait bs

 

[Wb1234]

Origin and audience size is in our favour. And none of what he keeps saying explains why the tv revenue gap is going from an historical 10-15% gap to around 40% gap 2 years time.

instead of wasting time and money in Vegas we should be implementing a 20team expansion strategy covering all 5 metro areas that lands us a $600 mill deal. That’s $200mill a year more than now and puts anything usa will likely deliver in the shade.
but hey what do I know

Adelaide lmao

now you are pushing it

 

[Perth Red]

No way nrl is spending 200 million out of its own money on America

thats click bait bs

Agreed, for starters they dont have $40mill a year to throw at it.

 

[Wb1234]

Agreed, for starters they dont have $40mill a year to throw at it.

Cash at bank is at least 150 million but that’s going into more commercial properties

 

[Pneuma]

Perth Red hates gambling , hates V’landys and, let’s be frank, hates the NRL.

 

[Iamback]

Cash at bank is at least 150 million but that’s going into more commercial properties

why throw money at Adelaide? It isn't going to get much if any return

 

[The EELiminator]

why throw money at Adelaide? It isn't going to get much if any return

Why throw money at Las Vegas?

 

[Perth Red]

why throw money at Adelaide? It isn't going to get much if any return

That depends if you believe in the value of a full 5 metro market reach.

 

[Wb1234]

why throw money at Adelaide? It isn't going to get much if any return

If it wasn’t for the money offered Adelaide would be getting zero

it’s a long way from an nrl team if ever

 

[taipan]

Origin and audience size is in our favour. And none of what he keeps saying explains why the tv revenue gap is going from an historical 10-15% gap to around 40% gap 2 years time.

instead of wasting time and money in Vegas we should be implementing a 20team expansion strategy covering all 5 metro areas that lands us a $600 mill deal. That’s $200mill a year more than now and puts anything usa will likely deliver in the shade.
but hey what do I know

How do you know if possibly securing large sums of Yankee dollars as a result of this 5 year deal , won't provide the cash for firstly endorsing an 18th team for the next Tv deal ? And more teams down the line?
And to suggest a 20 teams' plan to local TV heads, before the 18th team is bedded down successfully, they'd say we are interested in the next deal where new have certainty of numbers, not maybes.
Your continued harping on about the last NRL media deals , is to put it mildly boring as batshit.

I'm for a fully national NRL comp, but we need certainty and whining doesn't provide that ,one iota.
With respect you don't know whether the Tv deal was 50% undersold ,because you ignore the many differences when you draw comparisons with the fumblers, the time the deals are done, when the expire, etc,etc etc.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

That depends if you believe in the value of a full 5 metro market reach.

Las Vegas is a metro.

 

[Pneuma]

How do you know if possibly securing large sums of Yankee dollars as a result of this 5 year deal , won't provide the cash for firstly endorsing an 18th team for the next Tv deal ? And more teams down the line?
And to suggest a 20 teams' plan to local TV heads, before the 18th team is bedded down successfully, they'd say we are interested in the next deal where new have certainty of numbers, not maybes.
Your continued harping on about the last NRL media deals , is to put it mildly boring as batshit.

I'm for a fully national NRL comp, but we need certainty and whining doesn't provide that ,one iota.
With respect you don't know whether the Tv deal was 50% undersold ,because you ignore the many differences when you draw comparisons with the fumblers, the time the deals are done, when the expire, etc,etc etc.

With the NRL he always focusses on the negative. On the other hand the fumblers give him a lump in the pants.

 

[taipan]

Agreed, for starters they dont have $40mill a year to throw at it.

Then why did you bag the amount you said the NRL be better spent here if they haven't got $40m pa.
Each way bet ?
Sometimes man I get the impression you are posting from a Pommy pub drinking warm p*ss and are living thousands of kms from the land down under.

 

[Pneuma]

Then why did you bag the amount you said the NRL be better spent here if they haven't got $40m pa.
Each way bet ?
Sometimes man I get the impression you are posting from a Pommy pub drinking warm p*ss and are living thousands of kms from the land down under.

Without any mates

 

[taipan]

Without any mates

It would appear with his constant whining "without any dates."

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Then why did you bag the amount you said the NRL be better spent here if they haven't got $40m pa.
Each way bet ?
Sometimes man I get the impression you are posting from a Pommy pub drinking warm p*ss and are living thousands of kms from the land down under.

Perth ain’t much closer, mind you