Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

[siv]

Just wondering what actual major Stadium deals PVL got done while in office

 

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Appointing Chammas GM of football for PNG is absurd. The blokes lost his marbles.

 

[Gobsmacked]

I think the NSW government are calling PVL'S bluff on accor. It's time we called theirs.
Play the grand final in Brisbane or Melbourne, Perth or even Auckland.
Let it go to the highest bidder every year until a new stadium is approved.
A stadium like the one in Vegas should be in Sydney and it'll never happen without playing hard ball.
Want to make an omelette, start cracking eggs.

65K - with a roof.

 

[i0Nic]

I think the NSW government are calling PVL'S bluff on accor. It's time we called theirs.
Play the grand final in Brisbane or Melbourne, Perth or even Auckland.
Let it go to the highest bidder every year until a new stadium is approved.
A stadium like the one in Vegas should be in Sydney and it'll never happen without playing hard ball.
Want to make an omelette, start cracking eggs.

65K - with a roof.

Yes but make it 75k

 

[Gobsmacked]

Yes but make it 75k

Meet me in the middle at 70k ?

I say 65k because of a few reasons.
1: regular games with 25k will still have an atmosphere and that will actually ensure those people come back, so it will increase the experience and drive the average up on the lower end.
2: it'll drive demand up for games in the mid level as FOMO becomes a factor, something that could expect 55k suddenly becomes a race to make sure you get a ticket for a possibly sold out game.
3: you're basically getting rid of bad seats, at Suncorp 52k, there is no bad seats, it's all good viewing! I think you could stretch that to 65k( borderline) meaning everyone who ever goes has a good experience and will probably go again, once again this drives averages up!
4: makes negotiating a roof far easier, obviously a smaller span is easier to have a roof without breaking the bank.
5: the events like a grand final become more exclusive, which means the NRL can charge a premium and possibly generate more revenue.
6: it's good enough for the NFL Superbowl!

So overall, I think it'll drive the experience up and actually crowd averages as a whole.
Yes it's nice to say 82k or even 75k but that's about all it is .. a dick measuring contest with the AFL..
Let them have it, that's their thing, there's way bigger sports in the world than AFL that has far smaller crowds.. while they're counting their billions

 

[i0Nic]

Meet me in the middle at 70k ?

I say 65k because of a few reasons.
1: regular games with 25k will still have an atmosphere and that will actually ensure those people come back, so it will increase the experience and drive the average up on the lower end.
2: it'll drive demand up for games in the mid level as FOMO becomes a factor, something that could expect 55k suddenly becomes a race to make sure you get a ticket for a possibly sold out game.
3: you're basically getting rid of bad seats, at Suncorp 52k, there is no bad seats, it's all good viewing! I think you could stretch that to 65k( borderline) meaning everyone who ever goes has a good experience and will probably go again, once again this drives averages up!
4: makes negotiating a roof far easier, obviously a smaller span is easier to have a roof without breaking the bank.
5: the events like a grand final become more exclusive, which means the NRL can charge a premium and possibly generate more revenue.
6: it's good enough for the NFL Superbowl!

So overall, I think it'll drive the experience up and actually crowd averages as a whole.
Yes it's nice to say 82k or even 75k but that's about all it is .. a dick measuring contest with the AFL..
Let them have it, that's their thing, there's way bigger sports in the world than AFL that has far smaller crowds.. while they're counting their billions

Yeah I think we can afford to go down in capacity a bit compared to Accor. But I believe for Sydney sake and beyond the nrl considerations we need to ensure the stadium remains “stadium Australia” ie the premier Australian stadium. At 65k it’s on par with Optus oval and the new Brisbane stadium in terms of size. I think it needs to be 70k at minimum to retain the aura of status.

70k would be alright and probably striking the sweet spot between sheer size and still compact enough to not feel overly ginormous. Wouldn’t go any smaller. Putting a modern roof on it would be a game changer too.

It’s time we built something like Allegiant stadium.

There are plans to make a new 20k modern arena in the eastern suburbs. This should be something amazing. Time to do the same for Accor and make one of the worlds best rectangular stadiums that will attract the best of nrl, nfl, epl, concerts, events and other experiences — a stadium that tourists want to visit and attend.

 

[Dogs Of War]

I think the NSW government are calling PVL'S bluff on accor. It's time we called theirs.
Play the grand final in Brisbane or Melbourne, Perth or even Auckland.
Let it go to the highest bidder every year until a new stadium is approved.
A stadium like the one in Vegas should be in Sydney and it'll never happen without playing hard ball.
Want to make an omelette, start cracking eggs.

65K - with a roof.

Yep. I like to see the host city put a lot of stuff around the Grand Final to make it an even bigger event. That should be part of the bids.

 

[Barney Stubble]

no way, get Accor done first and into a rectangle. Then when the SCG needs a redevelopment there is nowhere with a decent capacity for the Swans to play at - the Showgrounds? Blacktown? good luck with that AFL

Major sport has continued to be played at the SCG while renovations were undertaken , when the Brewongle stand was done in the late 1970s & the Bill O Reilly stand in the early 1980s ... sport continued including cricket test matches & NSWRL grand finals.. same as the most recent stands too.
The Brewongle is the one they will tear down & re do when the SCG is eventually renovated , reducing the SCG's capacity to around 33,000 til its done & the Swans will keep playing there because as you say there is nowhere else.

 

[Barney Stubble]

There is no point " fixing " up Accor
Its not fixable with the 2 main side line stands too far away from the field due to their flat rake gradient starting from the inner bowl & it gets worse as it goes back & up.
And the ends an oval shape too far away as well.
A bulldozer is the answer , but its only 27 years old & gets the job done , so I don't expect any demolition crews turning up any time soon. The catalyst may well be the upgrades to Suncorp & an increase in capacity there & PVL using that & the NRL GF to get a new vastly improved venue in Sydney.

 

[Captain Apollo]

There is no point " fixing " up Accor
Its not fixable with the 2 main side line stands too far away from the field due to their flat rake gradient starting from the inner bowl & it gets worse as it goes back & up.
And the ends an oval shape too far away as well.
A bulldozer is the answer , but its only 27 years old & gets the job done , so I don't expect any demolition crews turning up any time soon. The catalyst may well be the upgrades to Suncorp & an increase in capacity there & PVL using that & the NRL GF to get a new vastly improved venue in Sydney.

There's no political will at state level in NSW by either side of the aisle to do it, especially after the kerfuffle over Allianz. Neither side will want to spend the money to do a complete knock down and rebuild of Accor in the short to medium term.

 

[Barney Stubble]

There's no political will at state level in NSW by either side of the aisle to do it, especially after the kerfuffle over Allianz. Neither side will want to spend the money to do a complete knock down and rebuild of Accor in the short to medium term.

Yes true
we're stuck with what we have ATM for the foreseeable future , While it could be way better , Its not the worst we've had either ... the SCG from 1908 to 1987 , the SFS which was too small from 1988 to 1999

 

[RL The greatest game]

Appointing Chammas GM of football for PNG is absurd. The blokes lost his marbles.

Why?

 

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Why?

Because he’s a journo? There’s more to the job than having agents on speed dial. He has no experience in football, development, coaching, pathways, recruitment, sports administration…

 

[Captain Apollo]

Because he’s a journo? There’s more to the job than having agents on speed dial. He has no experience in football, development, coaching, pathways, recruitment, sports administration…

That said, the position is that of general manager. It means he'd be in charge of those areas, not necessarily doing all the work in those areas. Heck I know one administrator who was appointed CEO of an NRL club a few years back who had little experience in financial management areas, despite the fact they had extensive football administration and coaching experience. The year he took over, the club won the premiership. They just ensured that they had people with the requisite skills in the area the CEO was not as proficient in.

 

[Dogs Of War]

That said, the position is that of general manager. It means he'd be in charge of those areas, not necessarily doing all the work in those areas. Heck I know one administrator who was appointed CEO of an NRL club a few years back who had little experience in financial management areas, despite the fact they had extensive football administration and coaching experience. The year he took over, the club won the premiership. They just ensured that they had people with the requisite skills in the area the CEO was not as proficient in.

Being able to do that is a skill in itself. It's not as easy as you think, plus at some point you need to sign off on those decisions as well.

 

[insert.pause]

That said, the position is that of general manager. It means he'd be in charge of those areas, not necessarily doing all the work in those areas. Heck I know one administrator who was appointed CEO of an NRL club a few years back who had little experience in financial management areas, despite the fact they had extensive football administration and coaching experience. The year he took over, the club won the premiership. They just ensured that they had people with the requisite skills in the area the CEO was not as proficient in.

At least he had football experience to run a football club.

Given the scope of the challenges this job brings I think it’s ridiculous to hire someone with absolutely zero relevant experience, even management experience. He won’t even know what he doesn’t know. The job wouldn’t have had a shortage of qualified applicants, despite what some may believe about the attractiveness of living in PNG.

 

[Captain Apollo]

At least he had football experience to run a football club.

Given the scope of the challenges this job brings I think it’s ridiculous to hire someone with absolutely zero relevant experience, even management experience. He won’t even know what he doesn’t know. The job wouldn’t have had a shortage of qualified applicants, despite what some may believe about the attractiveness of living in PNG.

I suspect it might be more due to Chammas knowing many of the people at the NRL and other clubs that is why he is being suggested. If PNG hadn't lost Andrew Hill as CEO when he moved to the Panthers, the proposed appointment may be a moot point.

 

[Dogs Of War]

I suspect it might be more due to Chammas knowing many of the people at the NRL and other clubs that is why he is being suggested. If PNG hadn't lost Andrew Hill as CEO when he moved to the Panthers, the proposed appointment may be a moot point.

I'd like to know why Ray Dib was pushed out. He would have been perfect for them.

 

[Wb1234]

I think the NSW government are calling PVL'S bluff on accor. It's time we called

I'd like to know why Ray Dib was pushed out. He would have been perfect for them.

Talk was he argued with Pvl about the choice of ceo

Having hill and dib gave me a lot of confidence in the club

Chammas will be good bc as a former journo he can turn public opinion in favour of the club. His previous articles he’s been very pro expansion

Unlike Perth bears which has pretty much universal support from league fans, the opinion about png seems to be hugely negative at the moment from the bulk of said community

 

[Wb1234]

I'd like to know why Ray Dib was pushed out. He would have been perfect for them.

Talk was he argued with Pvl about the choice of ceo

Having hill and dib gave me a lot of confidence in the club

Chammas will be good bc as a former journo he can turn public opinion in favour of the club. His previous articles he’s been very pro expansion

Unlike Perth bears which has pretty much universal support from league fans, the opinion about png seems to be hugely negative at the moment from the bulk of said community