Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

[James Rick]

You'd be another fan of the Storm seemingly being completely comfortable asking the NRL to directly assist them, at the expense of another club.

And they've definitely never asked for NRL assistance before, never ever ever.

I don't care about whether or not Lomax plays for the Storm, my comment was more about the Storm being successful due to being a well run club and not needing the NRL to help them like how the AFL help their NSW/QLD sides.

 

[BlueandGold]

Have they invested in more property or is the increase in assets just cash?

Latest property's the NRL has purchased is from 2024.

Most of that increase in revenue will be from increased Corporate sponsorship and an amazing finals series.

Possibly increase in revenue from the 3 properties the NRL owns.

NRL buys another two hotels in property push

The NRL has spent more than $37 million on two properties – one in Port Macquarie and another in Brisbane.

www.afr.com

 

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Latest property's the NRL has purchased is from 2024.

Most of that increase in revenue will be from increased Corporate sponsorship and an amazing finals series.

Possibly increase in revenue from the 3 properties the NRL owns.

NRL buys another two hotels in property push

The NRL has spent more than $37 million on two properties – one in Port Macquarie and another in Brisbane.

www.afr.com

The bulk of the increase in revenue would have probably been the $60m license fee from the government for PNG.

I assume the increase in assets is likely just cash since they haven’t announced any property acquisitions.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Think more like 2.5 million

Salary cap should be 16 to 18 million.

If they want to raid union post World Cup it needs to be 20 million plus cap

I agree but it needs to be strategically raised incrementally over a period of time to get to that $16m-$18m. Irrespective of the imminent extra cash flow the game will receive from the new broadcast deal in 2 years time once it’s in effect.

Going from $12m to $16m while also increasing clubs from 17 to 19 is an extra $76m ($4m p/club) for the salary cap alone. This means the club grant would equally need to rise approx 50% at a minimum. Thats an approx further $3m extra (per club for club grant) at $57m extra total on top of the $76m (extra for cap). That is an extra $133m total for the grant across 19 clubs.

Of course that figure of $133m only factors in the over and above (extra $7m p/club). It doesn’t take into account the full figures of Bears and Chiefs.

That’s a lot to fork out straight away and it comes with some level of risk. Better to incrementally raise the club grant (inclusive of the salary cap) by $1.75m each season across 4 years until it hits that’s extra $133m total across the board.

Disclaimer: I understand that the extra figures above are speculative and aren’t definitively set as it’s contingent of what the new broadcast deal is actually worth. Point being though that the smart play would be to increase all grants/caps across the board incrementally and not be too trigger happy with a massive raise first year into the new broadcast deal. I think the ARLC would like to see a percentage of that extra new cash spent on purchasing further investments (ie property) to continue safeguarding the game with tangible assets which have a steady return. Well that’s just my 2 bobs anyways.

 

[Wb1234]

I agree but it needs to be strategically raised incrementally over a period of time to get to that $16m-$18m. Irrespective of the imminent extra cash flow the game will receive from the new broadcast deal in 2 years time once it’s in effect.

Going from $12m to $16m while also increasing clubs from 17 to 19 is an extra $76m ($4m p/club) for the salary cap alone. This means the club grant would equally need to rise approx 50% at a minimum. Thats an approx further $3m extra (per club for club grant) at $57m extra total on top of the $76m (extra for cap). That is an extra $133m total for the grant across 19 clubs.

Of course that figure of $133m only factors in the over and above (extra $7m p/club). It doesn’t take into account the full figures of Bears and Chiefs.

That’s a lot to fork out straight away and it comes with some level of risk. Better to incrementally raise the club grant (inclusive of the salary cap) by $1.75m each season across 4 years until it hits that’s extra $133m total across the board.

Disclaimer: I understand that the extra figures above are speculative and aren’t definitively set as it’s contingent of what the new broadcast deal is actually worth. Point being though that the smart play would be to increase all grants/caps across the board incrementally and not be too trigger happy with a massive raise first year into the new broadcast deal. I think the ARLC would like to see a percentage of that extra new cash spent on purchasing further investments (ie property) to continue safeguarding the game with tangible assets which have a steady return. Well that’s just my 2 bobs anyways.

From 2028 the nrl will have around 250 million extra cash from the new tv deal and sponsors

Easiest split is to assume clubs / players / arl get one third each so around 83 million each (though arl already makes 63 million doesn’t need that increase imo)

Helps expansion clubs too as clubs will be getting close to ten million over cap

If nrl could sign say 40 union “stars” post World Cup that would help our player depth

Like previous tv deals I think year one will be biggest jump then incrementally over the remaining life of the tv deal

 

[Jamberoo]

The bulk of the increase in revenue would have probably been the $60m license fee from the government for PNG.

I assume the increase in assets is likely just cash since they haven’t announced any property acquisitions.

PNG cash starts in 2028.

 

[Jamberoo]

Strange quote from PVL ‘“At the end of it, whatever rights fees you get, the consumer pays for it, so you have to be careful you don’t alienate your fans by doing a record deal’. Sounds like he is suggesting it might not be as much a predicted.

 

[kurt faulk]

Strange quote from PVL ‘“At the end of it, whatever rights fees you get, the consumer pays for it, so you have to be careful you don’t alienate your fans by doing a record deal’. Sounds like he is suggesting it might not be as much a predicted.

NFL owners definitely don't care about that. Because they know the fans will pay whatever they have to so they can watch the games.

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[Iamback]

Strange quote from PVL ‘“At the end of it, whatever rights fees you get, the consumer pays for it, so you have to be careful you don’t alienate your fans by doing a record deal’. Sounds like he is suggesting it might not be as much a predicted.

If you are Netflix for example.

It isn't viable to have say Monday night games only.

So if you can't sell individual games off, then the rise will be less

 

[newc18]

Strange quote from PVL ‘“At the end of it, whatever rights fees you get, the consumer pays for it, so you have to be careful you don’t alienate your fans by doing a record deal’. Sounds like he is suggesting it might not be as much a predicted.

Nah, he just doesn't want to sell it to a streamer who then decides to charge $60 a month. You want to keep it affordable so it keeps growing. He is thinking long term.

 

[Wb1234]

PNG cash starts in 2028.

Nope clubs have already received around 3 million each from it

Increased arl revenue will be from things like Samoa v Tonga massive crowd, broncos finals crowds and property income

 

[Wb1234]

Nah, he just doesn't want to sell it to a streamer who then decides to charge $60 a month. You want to keep it affordable so it keeps growing. He is thinking long term.

He’s an idiot

League fans are already paying more for kayo to cover the afl tv deal and it’s only going to go up even more if they want Fox to pay them the extra 200 million a year they want from them

 

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PNG cash starts in 2028.

Nope, clubs have received first payment

 

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Nope clubs have already received around 3 million each from it

Increased arl revenue will be from things like Samoa v Tonga massive crowd, broncos finals crowds and property income

They’ve received $1.75m in first instalment. The $4m will be paid annually in 5 instalments.

 

[RL The greatest game]

I agree but it needs to be strategically raised incrementally over a period of time to get to that $16m-$18m. Irrespective of the imminent extra cash flow the game will receive from the new broadcast deal in 2 years time once it’s in effect.

Going from $12m to $16m while also increasing clubs from 17 to 19 is an extra $76m ($4m p/club) for the salary cap alone. This means the club grant would equally need to rise approx 50% at a minimum. Thats an approx further $3m extra (per club for club grant) at $57m extra total on top of the $76m (extra for cap). That is an extra $133m total for the grant across 19 clubs.

Of course that figure of $133m only factors in the over and above (extra $7m p/club). It doesn’t take into account the full figures of Bears and Chiefs.

That’s a lot to fork out straight away and it comes with some level of risk. Better to incrementally raise the club grant (inclusive of the salary cap) by $1.75m each season across 4 years until it hits that’s extra $133m total across the board.

Disclaimer: I understand that the extra figures above are speculative and aren’t definitively set as it’s contingent of what the new broadcast deal is actually worth. Point being though that the smart play would be to increase all grants/caps across the board incrementally and not be too trigger happy with a massive raise first year into the new broadcast deal. I think the ARLC would like to see a percentage of that extra new cash spent on purchasing further investments (ie property) to continue safeguarding the game with tangible assets which have a steady return. Well that’s just my 2 bobs anyways.

Peter V'landys puts the game first unlike the dude running the RFL, who puts his former clubs first.

 

[Gobsmacked]

I agree but it needs to be strategically raised incrementally over a period of time to get to that $16m-$18m. Irrespective of the imminent extra cash flow the game will receive from the new broadcast deal in 2 years time once it’s in effect.

Going from $12m to $16m while also increasing clubs from 17 to 19 is an extra $76m ($4m p/club) for the salary cap alone. This means the club grant would equally need to rise approx 50% at a minimum. Thats an approx further $3m extra (per club for club grant) at $57m extra total on top of the $76m (extra for cap). That is an extra $133m total for the grant across 19 clubs.

Of course that figure of $133m only factors in the over and above (extra $7m p/club). It doesn’t take into account the full figures of Bears and Chiefs.

That’s a lot to fork out straight away and it comes with some level of risk. Better to incrementally raise the club grant (inclusive of the salary cap) by $1.75m each season across 4 years until it hits that’s extra $133m total across the board.

Disclaimer: I understand that the extra figures above are speculative and aren’t definitively set as it’s contingent of what the new broadcast deal is actually worth. Point being though that the smart play would be to increase all grants/caps across the board incrementally and not be too trigger happy with a massive raise first year into the new broadcast deal. I think the ARLC would like to see a percentage of that extra new cash spent on purchasing further investments (ie property) to continue safeguarding the game with tangible assets which have a steady return. Well that’s just my 2 bobs anyways.

I'd really like the NRL to move towards owning stadiums if they're going to be continuing purchasing assets.
The NRL should build a 40k stadium in Liverpool ( yes it would require a massive loan) for Tigers and Bulldogs, buy and rebuild Shark park for starters.

 

[BlueandGold]

They’ve received $1.75m in first instalment. The $4m will be paid annually in 5 instalments.

So 29m of the 60m increase is from PNG license payments.

31m increase from NRL operations is still very good.

 

[Wb1234]

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V’landys is off-contract as ARL Commission chair at season’s end.
The father of three opened up about the stresses of the role and says he is weighing up whether to remain in the job for another term in 2027.
“It’s not easy. It does take a toll on me,” he said.
“It comes with a lot of responsibility and I take it very seriously because we are the custodians of the game.
“We provide entertainment and enjoyment for millions of people.
“At times, it gets not overwhelming … but all-consuming. It causes you to lose sleep. The job is on my mind 24-7.
“As hard as I try, the game is always on my mind. It can be stressful. But I got myself into this. I knew exactly what to expect, but you get enjoyment when you see the successes.
“Who knows if I will go on?
“I’m one of those people who never takes things for granted. I will never take it for granted that I will still be wanted or I will still be in this role (next year).”
V’landys is a realist – he knows he can be there one day and gone the next.
“I just don’t plan for it. One day it will happen that I’m gone,” he said.
“I don’t sit there every day thinking about it, I just get on with the job.
“The minute you aren’t successful the NRL clubs will be waving you goodbye and that’s how it should be. But they know, right now, the game is in the best financial position ever.”


Once Pvl goes expansion and push overseas will lessen or end and whoever replaces him will just live off his legacy and think he or she is a good administrator

 

[T-Boon]

I'd really like the NRL to move towards owning stadiums if they're going to be continuing purchasing assets.
The NRL should build a 40k stadium in Liverpool ( yes it would require a massive loan) for Tigers and Bulldogs,

I'd rather they became part owner of Stadium Australia. Borrow $500mill and put it towards fixing both ends up to how they should be and made in a way that a decade or so from now the rest of the stadium is able to be built in.

 

[colly]

If you are Netflix for example.

It isn't viable to have say Monday night games only.

So if you can't sell individual games off, then the rise will be less

Amazon does Thursday night football, NFL for 15 rounds per season.