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Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

Red&BlackBear

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Pretty funny you never heard of it and claim to the mr qld rl


This was when they were talking about adding the dolphins
Where does he oppose the Dolphins? His personal preference was to relocate a club which is fine.

But he’s just one man with one opinion who was shown the door pretty quickly after.

His comments about the finances were said during the Covid times when there were in fact big issues with the games finances.

So once again I ask you where does it say that the QRL were actively opposed to the dolphins? Have you mistaken this for a position stance?
 
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Wb1234

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Where does he oppose the Dolphins? His personal preference was to relocate a club which is fine.

But he’s just one man with one opinion who was shown the door pretty quickly after.

His comments about the finances were said during the Covid times when there were in fact big issues with the games finances.

So once again I ask you where does it say that the QRL were actively opposed to the dolphins? Have you mistaken this for a position stance?
If it was up to him it would be the sharks not the dolphins as the second nrl team in Brisbane

And the game wouldn’t have expanded past 16 teams when we’re now at 19

People like him and the people at the nswrl who get in the way of what Pvl wants to do are the problem

Pvl is the only person who really gets things done so all these muppets should stand back and let him do it

And that’s relevant for national rg and under 21

Though Pvl and the qrl dropped the ball on Suncorp stadium upgrades totally outplayed by the afl

And I think the qrl are doing a way better job than the nswrl re juniors
 
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Pretty funny you never heard of it and claim to the mr qld rl


This was when they were talking about adding the dolphins
wait a minute you're using this blokes personal opinion as the be all and end all for qrl not wanting dolphins?

this opinion was made during covid (mid 2021) when all clubs were based in qld. This is 6 months after the blackout year when no junior or reserve footy was played. when the game did a wacky tv rights deal, over a year before arlc purchased as assets and when their financial position was fart from what it is now.

the dolphins still got their endorsement from this bloke anyways as arlc members voted them in which includes qrl. opinions can change based on changing circumstances i.e. the game balancing out its finances and the talent pool somewhat restoring itself after a year of no games
 

Dogs Of War

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I mean he did drop the ball on stadium funding for league stadiums in qld from the o

The Gabba is end of life. So something was always happening with that stadium for the Olympics. Funding whether they held the athletics at the old QEII stadium as was proposed and opening ceremony at Lang Park, was only ever going to be a little amount thrown at it. While once the Govt changed, the Gabba which should have always been knocked down rather than a coat of paint put on it, was pushed to be the primary stadium. I think that was a good move and one that should have happened from the start.

I'm not sure what you were expecting with the Olympics. Lang Park will get some money thrown at it, but it's not a great site to redevelop. We all worked out that Rugby League isn't as good at something like a multipurpose stadium like Docklands or Stadium Australia, so I'm glad they didn't try and throw that into the mix. Lang Park will get it turn at some point. Plenty of brownie points in keeping that landmark up to scratch in QLD.
 

Wb1234

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The Gabba is end of life. So something was always happening with that stadium for the Olympics. Funding whether they held the athletics at the old QEII stadium as was proposed and opening ceremony at Lang Park, was only ever going to be a little amount thrown at it. While once the Govt changed, the Gabba which should have always been knocked down rather than a coat of paint put on it, was pushed to be the primary stadium. I think that was a good move and one that should have happened from the start.

I'm not sure what you were expecting with the Olympics. Lang Park will get some money thrown at it, but it's not a great site to redevelop. We all worked out that Rugby League isn't as good at something like a multipurpose stadium like Docklands or Stadium Australia, so I'm glad they didn't try and throw that into the mix. Lang Park will get it turn at some point. Plenty of brownie points in keeping that landmark up to scratch in QLD.
One billion on Suncorp would’ve been a much better outcome

And there’s no need for anything more than a 30 to 35k gabba replacement

The qld govt is scrambling now to get Suncorp to the same capacity as Victoria park to avoid the inevitable backlash

But it will still be way behind Victoria park
 

Dogs Of War

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One billion on Suncorp would’ve been a much better outcome

And there’s no need for anything more than a 30 to 35k gabba replacement

The qld govt is scrambling now to get Suncorp to the same capacity as Victoria park to avoid the inevitable backlash

But it will still be way behind Victoria park

It's been pointed out previously in the stadium thread why it's such a problem to make it 60k. And there is nothing the QRL even grabbing A-League and the QRU into the mix, that would have changed anything. It was all a politicial decision, and I think the right outcome was reached.

It's not like concerts won't be held at Vic Park, which then frees up Lang Park to stay in better nick with less events, and opens the way for a 3rd team to play out of there.

It's more of a be careful what you wish for scenario, as I said, Lang Park will get some work done after the Olympics, but only once that event has passed. I'm not sure we need a bigger stadium in the short term for the odd few events that would maximise it. AFL will look like rubbish in the new stadium, so will cricket which never draws big for test matches. Concerts on the other hand will be killing it.
 

Red&BlackBear

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If it was up to him it would be the sharks not the dolphins as the second nrl team in Brisbane

And the game wouldn’t have expanded past 16 teams when we’re now at 19

People like him and the people at the nswrl who get in the way of what Pvl wants to do are the problem

Pvl is the only person who really gets things done so all these muppets should stand back and let him do it

And that’s relevant for national rg and under 21

Though Pvl and the qrl dropped the ball on Suncorp stadium upgrades totally outplayed by the afl

And I think the qrl are doing a way better job than the nswrl re juniors
You need to realise that PVL and Ikin discuss the game and its current/future positioning of the game far more than people think.

If Ikin and Canavan are telling PVL something - best believe it’s completely tangible based and backed by strong data, analytics and metrics. These guys are all about the numbers and growth - upward trending trajectories.

I’ve mentioned a few times now that QRL advocated and continue to advocate for Suncorp’s capacity rise. Their organisation HQ is quite literally located 25m away from Stadiums QLD head office - which is within Suncorp Stadium. These organisations chat a lot to ensure they are on the same page.

This entire chat is an iceberg. People tend see what we see on top, above the water - this proposed national reserve grade and U-21’s comps however, people don’t see what’s actually below the water is propping it up. How it all functions in a systematic manner and why it’s critical to maintain its core matrix. Pulling it apart just because it looks pretty on Team List Tuesday - isn’t really the best tact here.


It’s a kinda weird argument to propose as the QRL under Ikin is gagging for another NRL team now
Even weirder when you consider that QRL chairman - Brian Canavan - has been a consultant on the Jets bid, a backer for Ipswich NRL bid and has had influence in getting the Jets facility upgrades to ensure they can really push forward for an NRL license.
 

Dogs Of War

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You need to realise that PVL and Ikin discuss the game and its current/future positioning of the game far more than people think.

If Ikin and Canavan are telling PVL something - best believe it’s completely tangible based and backed by strong data, analytics and metrics. These guys are all about the numbers and growth - upward trending trajectories.

I’ve mentioned a few times now that QRL advocated and continue to advocate for Suncorp’s capacity rise. Their organisation HQ is quite literally located 25m away from Stadiums QLD head office - which is within Suncorp Stadium. These organisations chat a lot to ensure they are on the same page.

This entire chat is an iceberg. People tend see what we see on top, above the water - this proposed national reserve grade and U-21’s comps however, people don’t see what’s actually below the water is propping it up. How it all functions in a systematic manner and why it’s critical to maintain its core matrix. Pulling it apart just because it looks pretty on Team List Tuesday - isn’t really the best tact here.



Even weirder when you consider that QRL chairman - Brian Canavan - has been a consultant on the Jets bid, a backer for Ipswich NRL bid and has had influence in getting the Jets facility upgrades to ensure they can really push forward for an NRL license.

It's exactly what Ikin was talking about on a podcast. He was going into the nitty gritty of all that. Talking about Brothers junior clubs and what they do for the game. It was quite eye opening stuff what is happening behind the scenes. And Ikin comes across as a selfless bloke, and one that you want in charge of running the game in the state.
 

Barney Stubble

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Another highly entertaining rugby league " event " this morning in the UK , and theres no denying the NRL at the moment is leaving its competitors in their dust again , to start the 2026 season

By the end of next weekend
the NRL will have had its clubs play in 4 different countries this year already

While the bumbling clown show from Victoria hasn't got out of Footskilda & Essendumb 🤣 🤣 🤣
 

BuffaloRules

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It's not like concerts won't be held at Vic Park, which then frees up Lang Park to stay in better nick with less events, and opens the way for a 3rd team to play out of there.

you want the 3rd team to play out of Suncorp?

If it’s an Ipswich team seems a long commute …and are they going to fill it ? Maybe they could build a 25k stadium locally ?
 

Wb1234

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You need to realise that PVL and Ikin discuss the game and its current/future positioning of the game far more than people think.

If Ikin and Canavan are telling PVL something - best believe it’s completely tangible based and backed by strong data, analytics and metrics. These guys are all about the numbers and growth - upward trending trajectories.

I’ve mentioned a few times now that QRL advocated and continue to advocate for Suncorp’s capacity rise. Their organisation HQ is quite literally located 25m away from Stadiums QLD head office - which is within Suncorp Stadium. These organisations chat a lot to ensure they are on the same page.

This entire chat is an iceberg. People tend see what we see on top, above the water - this proposed national reserve grade and U-21’s comps however, people don’t see what’s actually below the water is propping it up. How it all functions in a systematic manner and why it’s critical to maintain its core matrix. Pulling it apart just because it looks pretty on Team List Tuesday - isn’t really the best tact here.



Even weirder when you consider that QRL chairman - Brian Canavan - has been a consultant on the Jets bid, a backer for Ipswich NRL bid and has had influence in getting the Jets facility upgrades to ensure they can really push forward for an NRL license.
Canavan and ikin are guns I’ll give you that

Let’s hope they allow national reserve grade and under 21 go through which I suspect will require the arl upping their funding a lot lol
 

Dogs Of War

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you want the 3rd team to play out of Suncorp?

If it’s an Ipswich team seems a long commute …and are they going to fill it ? Maybe they could build a 25k stadium locally ?

I see something like 6 games at Suncorp and the rest at Ipswich (and maybe one game at Toowoomba). It's like 40mins on the train. Not the worst journey in the world. And then they get to tap into 2 markets. So much housing is being built out that way, that the club would just gain supporters each year due to the volume of housing going up.

As for the 25k stadium, that would be great. But corporate facilities would be needed, and I see the ARU and A-League being upset, as both would love a 25k stadium within the Brisbane city limits to be built as an alternative to playing with low crowds at a 50k stadium. Not sure what the answer is here. Maybe it's more of a case of play out of what they have to start with, with more games at Lang Park until the govt can pony up for the right stadium.

This is what is currently being built at Ipswich, and it's no Redcliffe type deal.


That said, it well located in the region, walking distance to the train station and would encourage further events to be held out that way.
 
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All this chat feels like non-Queenslanders telling us how to run our stuff.
it’s working well. no need to change it

And I think the qrl are doing a way better job than the nswrl re juniors
I know the fumbles are full of the proverbial and prone to hyperbole but they seem to be making far more progress in Qld than NSW.
Christ I remember one of those "Bears' posters (there were two of them remember) telling us ad nauseum that the biggest junior sports club by far in some area, I think from memory it was west of Brissy, was a junior f-ball club, I don`t think we have that anywhere in NSW.
 
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It's exactly what Ikin was talking about on a podcast. He was going into the nitty gritty of all that. Talking about Brothers junior clubs and what they do for the game. It was quite eye opening stuff what is happening behind the scenes. And Ikin comes across as a selfless bloke, and one that you want in charge of running the game in the state.
some people here think red&blackbear is ben ikin
 

Dogs Of War

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I know the fumbles are full of the proverbial and prone to hyperbole but they seem to be making far more progress in Qld than NSW.
Christ I remember one of those "Bears' posters (there were two of them remember) telling us ad nauseum that the biggest junior sports club by far in some area, I think from memory it was west of Brissy, was a junior f-ball club, I don`t think we have that anywhere in NSW.

He is talking about AFL Leagues clubs cause no AFL junior club has more than 900 juniors. While we have a few League junior clubs with over 1000 juniors.

With Southport Sharks and the multiple Lions leagues clubs spread around. That's a lot of pokie dollars.
 

Perth Red

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What happens to the qrl cup when the four qlnd nrl clubs have their own sides in stacked with the best talent?
Are the rest of the teams sans nrl players going to be whipping boys?
 

Dogs Of War

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What happens to the qrl cup when the four qlnd nrl clubs have their own sides in stacked with the best talent?
Are the rest of the teams sans nrl players going to be whipping boys?

Maybe that's why the Broncos and Dolphins have multiple feeders club where they spread the talent around. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
 
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What happens to the qrl cup when the four qlnd nrl clubs have their own sides in stacked with the best talent?
Are the rest of the teams sans nrl players going to be whipping boys?
dont get what youre asking.
seems to be ramblings of a dunce.

dophins already have a q-cup side.
the dolphins nrl top 30 which arent in the 17 goes back to norths devils, capras and dolphins qrl. it works well. means those clubs get elevated by having those nrl quality players in their systems. filters through grades and make overall clubs stronger.

Maybe that's why the Broncos and Dolphins have multiple feeders club where they spread the talent around. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
all 4 clubs do.. including perth bears for 5th!

broncos = falcons, wm seagulls, magpies, bears
titans = th seagulls & jets
dolphins = dolphins, devils and capras
cowboys = blackhawks, pride and cutters
bears = tigers
chiefs = hunters
tbd = clydesdales
 
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