Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

[BuffaloRules]

And being part of fattys amazing 1995 origin win when Wayne Bennett walked away saying the team was a joke because they had no chance of winning

Love the story that when Fatty first saw Ikin in the lift of the team hotel before that first Origin game in 1995 , and thought he was some random kid trying to get his autograph… didn’t even know who he was lol …Ikin had to tell him he was actually in the team !

 

[siv]

No one said NRL doesn’t have the money to travel.

However, you claimed there wouldn’t be any additional funding required - I was disputing the fact you think there’s no requirement for additional costs when in fact we are adding 2 extra tiered grades worth of squads. Squads that will require travel, accomodation, squad numbers rise and auxiliaries as facts that yes, there will be additional costs. Don’t try to flip on what you insinuated to begin with and what the context was.

You then said the new TV deal will cover any uplifts and whilst it likely could, I flagged with you that everything else is going to rise as well. Therefore this extra money to invest into 2 extra tiers of footy isn’t as great as what you perhaps perceive it to be. It seems like an exercise with little more benefit than what we currently have in place. Except in QLD because what we currently have in place actually supports regional and district rugby league while equally benefiting the QLD based NRL clubs.

It benefits the QLD based NRL clubs because it does all the ground work for them in relation to juniors and pathways.

The shift with the Warriors and Storm into the NSWRL has more to do with continued development of the pathways in NZ and Victoria than anything else. It’s no different to the Hunters in QRL. It’s far more feasible and economic with continuing with the current set ups. Drastically changing the set up doesn’t improve on what we have.

The Queensland NRL clubs want/ed to participate in the Q-Cup but didn’t want to fund the junior grades to align with the structures of the competition.

QRL and the QLD NRL clubs agreed to set up a mini commission to investigate the feasibility. This commission included Terry Reader (Dolphins CEO), Michel Luck (Cowboys), Steve Johnson (Jets) and Canavan (QRL. Chair). The Titans and Broncos were invited to be part of it but declined - they are happy to proceed with whatever is determined.

If this was to happen then the QRL would help facilitate the NRL based Q-Cup clubs in a similar fashion to how they currently facilitate the NRLQ clubs. The grant back into QRL would be required rise to accomodate 18 teams. These QLD NRL clubs are not pushing for a national comp - they were only pushing to be included in the Q-Cup. There’s a difference there.

Basically what your saying is how the money flows - causing a problem

NRL to QRL back to NRL Clubs for NRL RG and NYC

I beleive this is the flaw in what is setup today and can be easily fixed

How much are we actually talking about, maybe $250k per NRL club. So only $1 mil max in Qld

NRL should just fund NRL RG and NYC directly without middlemen

They can do this easily with a simple increase of the NRL Grant by $500k. All clubs just got a $1.75 mil bonus last year

Then QRL would be able to manage their money better for Non-NRL operation, without giving anything back to NRL Clubs

The trick then for the NRL is to not drop QRL funding, effectively giving them $1mil to put into grass roots

 

[Captain Apollo]

Well poster after poster was caning him on the Rugby League commentators thread the other day, saying he didn`t provide one useful insight and said the same brain-dead thing repeatedly.
Apart from that, I know little about him but from what I`ve heard he`s not particularly impressive.
And MBA`s, if your prepared to pay, they`re not hard to get, even from top institutions. Christian Welsh says hi.
One thing I would add is that he married Bennett`s daughter, Bennett`s as sharp as a tack, I assume his daughter is pretty smart too and wouldn`t marry a dummy, having said that, didn`t Bob Fulton`s daughter marry Terry Hill.

Being a commentator and an administrator are not the same thing. I've seen some people who are crap public speakers, but are a wizards at running stuff.

 

[Mother Nature's Son]

Being a commentator and an administrator are not the same thing. I've seen some people who are crap public speakers, but are a wizards at running stuff.

That is true actually, probably partly the reason why Toast Masters, which I thought went the way of the Dodo, is still pretty big.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

@siv @Wb1234

QRL and the QLD NRL clubs agreed to set up a mini commission to investigate the feasibility. This commission included Terry Reader (Dolphins CEO), Michel Luck (Cowboys), Steve Johnson (Jets) and Canavan (QRL. Chair). The Titans and Broncos were invited to be part of it but declined - they are happy to proceed with whatever is determined.

If this was to happen then the QRL would help facilitate the NRL based Q-Cup clubs in a similar fashion to how they currently facilitate the NRLQ clubs. The grant back into QRL would be required rise to accomodate 18 teams. These QLD NRL clubs are not pushing for a national comp - they were only pushing to be included in the Q-Cup. There’s a difference there.

This commission’s investigation into having the 4 QLD NRL clubs enter sides in Q-Cup is on going.

Cowboys 100% want to enter a side in Q-Cup and they are definitely pushing the hardest for it.

Dolphins want to consolidate and restructure their Q-Cup team (right now, I don’t know what that actually means).

Titans are open to the idea but aren’t willing to jump hoops for it. If it looks like it might happen, then they’ll play along with it.

Broncos are against it.

This is purely to expand the Q-Cup.

One of the conditions is that affiliations to current existing QRL clubs remain. Basically how the proposal was explained to me is that (for example) Titans, Cowboys, Dolphins & Broncos QRL teams act to house predominately the younger players on their respective rosters. It’s essentially 4 colt teams playing in a seniors comp.

The older Top 30s who aren’t playing NRL still go back to your their affiliated QRL proper clubs ie Devils (if they’re a Dolphins signed player) or Tweed (if they’re a Titans signed player) or Pride (if they’re a Cowboys signed player) and so on. I don’t know what age is seen as this “marker”.

The crux will be the finances and how much extra it’ll cost to field 4 extra Q-Cup clubs. QRL understands that if this were to occur they can’t have 4 runaway teams dominating year on year. So there’s apparent safeguards being looked at to ensure every club is strong and an equal chance to have a good season irrespective of if they’re a suburban QRL club, regional QRL club or “reserve” NRL QRL club.

NRLQ would remain as it is with the prospective introductions of Perth Bears (very likely) and PNG Chiefs (likely) to that tournament

I need to flag again that clubs aren’t pushing for a national reserves.

Ultimately it’s the funding model and investment that will be the key. If it’s deemed a cost negative exercise that becomes a cash drain - then it won’t go ahead. If it’s deemed as compromising to the competitions integrity - then it won’t go ahead. If it’s deemed that it’ll negatively affect the pathways structure beneath Q-Cup - then it won’t go ahead.

Once I know more I’ll post it somewhere on this forum. Any questions?

 

[Wb1234]

@siv @Wb1234

This commission’s investigation into having the 4 QLD NRL clubs enter sides in Q-Cup is on going.

Cowboys 100% want to enter a side in Q-Cup and they are definitely pushing the hardest for it.

Dolphins want to consolidate and restructure their Q-Cup team (right now, I don’t know what that actually means).

Titans are open to the idea but aren’t willing to jump hoops for it. If it looks like it might happen, then they’ll play along with it.

Broncos are against it.

This is purely to expand the Q-Cup.

One of the conditions is that affiliations to current existing QRL clubs remain. Basically how the proposal was explained to me is that (for example) Titans, Cowboys, Dolphins & Broncos QRL teams act to house predominately the younger players on their respective rosters. It’s essentially 4 colt teams playing in a seniors comp.

The older Top 30s who aren’t playing NRL still go back to your their affiliated QRL proper clubs ie Devils (if they’re a Dolphins signed player) or Tweed (if they’re a Titans signed player) or Pride (if they’re a Cowboys signed player) and so on. I don’t know what age is seen as this “marker”.

The crux will be the finances and how much extra it’ll cost to field 4 extra Q-Cup clubs. QRL understands that if this were to occur they can’t have 4 runaway teams dominating year on year. So there’s apparent safeguards being looked at to ensure every club is strong and an equal chance to have a good season irrespective of if they’re a suburban QRL club, regional QRL club or “reserve” NRL QRL club.

NRLQ would remain as it is with the prospective introductions of Perth Bears (very likely) and PNG Chiefs (likely) to that tournament

I need to flag again that clubs aren’t pushing for a national reserves.

Ultimately it’s the funding model and investment that will be the key. If it’s deemed a cost negative exercise that becomes a cash drain - then it won’t go ahead. If it’s deemed as compromising to the competitions integrity - then it won’t go ahead. If it’s deemed that it’ll negatively affect the pathways structure beneath Q-Cup - then it won’t go ahead.

Once I know more I’ll post it somewhere on this forum. Any questions?

If the qld nrl clubs are happy running sides like that then that’s fine

But it’s a poor solution from having national rg and nyc and having all your players going through the ranks together and also playing the best in the country

Rg and nyc were watered down / cut when clubs didn’t have the funding and wanted to save money. Now they have the money to do it properly

 

[Dogs Of War]

NRLQ would remain as it is with the prospective introductions of Perth Bears (very likely) and PNG Chiefs (likely) to that tournament

Why would Perth enter the QLD Cup, when the NSW comp with North Sydney Bears being that team makes more sense?

 

[Captain Apollo]

Why would Perth enter the QLD Cup, when the NSW comp with North Sydney Bears being that team makes more sense?

They could also enter into a "feeder club"arrangement with a Qld side.

That said, due to the linkage with North Sydney, odds on they'll have a NSW Cup team at the least.

 

[Dogs Of War]

They could also enter into a "feeder club"arrangement with a Qld side.

That said, due to the linkage with North Sydney, odds on they'll have a NSW Cup team at the least.

Oh I have no problem with them having a relationship with a QLD Cup team, plenty of teams would love to be part of that. But no point them having their main feeder team in the QLD Cup. Also having a QLD Cup feeder team, means they can have those QLD recruited players stay within the state playing for that team.

 

[Wb1234]

Oh I have no problem with them having a relationship with a QLD Cup team, plenty of teams would love to be part of that. But no point them having their main feeder team in the QLD Cup. Also having a QLD Cup feeder team, means they can have those QLD recruited players stay within the state playing for that team.

They now have a feeder arrangement with easts tigers so one feeder team in nsw one in QLD

Red bear is probably saying Perth would take over from their feeder with east tigers in the longer term

As with other sides it will be interesting which team gets all their best players or if they split them between the two which would be stupid

I would think the focus should be on norths as the main feeder team

 

[Bukowski]

Why would Perth enter the QLD Cup, when the NSW comp with North Sydney Bears being that team makes more sense?

I'd guess they want 2 feeder clubs and Norths want to hang onto the name Norths

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Why would Perth enter the QLD Cup, when the NSW comp with North Sydney Bears being that team makes more sense?

It’s not the Q-Cup. Has nothing to do with that competition. This is the NRLQ…

NRLQ is tournament made up of the best U20s (essentially colts) picked from QRL club systems which are affiliated with their respective QLD NRL clubs and then those kids play under QLD NRL club banners. It’s currently a 6 week tournament spread out mid Q-Cup season. This will elevate it to a 10 week tournament with prospective introductions of Bears & Chiefs..

Set-Up:
Reserves, Top 30 not playing NRL, train & trial > Norths & Tigers (self explanatory..)

U19, U18, U17, U16 > Norths & Tigers SG Ball, MM Cup, HM, CC Cup teams (predominately where development players are based). These are played in seasons.

U20 NRLQ > Perth Bears. (Made up purely of NRLWA home grown prospectives). This is played in a tournament.

Proposed structure.

There can only be so many development players in the cap. This is a way to get WA & PNG junior talent to face off against proper competition to gauge where they are at.

NRLQ is only one year old and I re-iterate it’s a tournament. Look it up.

NRLQ Under 20 development series launched

In partnership with the NRL and the four Queensland-based NRL clubs, the Queensland Rugby League will administer the new NRLQ series.

www.nrl.com

Dolphins undefeated in inaugural NRLQ Series

The Dolphins have etched their name in history, going undefeated in the inaugural NRLQ Series, a new competition designed to strengthen Queensland’s elite development pathways.

www.dolphinsnrl.com.au

NRLQ Competition Helping Develop The Next Generation

The next generation of Broncos talent are embracing the opportunity to develop their game in the newly developed NRLQ competition.

www.broncos.com.au

Draw

2026 Hostplus Cup, QRLW Premiership, Cyril Connell Cup, BMD Premiership, Harvey Norman Under 19s, Harvey Norman Under 17s, and Mal Meninga Cup draws & results, State of Origin draw, QRL fixtures

www.qrl.com.au

 

[Dogs Of War]

It’s not the Q-Cup. It’s the NRLQ…

It’s a tournament made up of the best U20s (essentially colts) picked from QRL club systems which are affiliated with their respective QLD NRL clubs and then those kids play under QLD NRL club banners. It’s currently a 3 week tournament spread out mid Q-Cup season. This will elevate it to a 5 week tournament with prospective introductions of Bears & Chiefs..

Set-Up:
Reserves, Top 30 not playing NRL, train & trial > Norths & Tigers (self explanatory..)

U19, U18, U17, U16 > Norths & Tigers SG Ball, MM Cup, HM, CC Cup teams (predominately where development players are based). These are played in seasons.

U20 NRLQ > Perth Bears. (Made up purely of NRLWA home grown prospectives). This is played in a tournament.

Proposed structure.

There can only be so many development players in the cap. This is a way to get WA & PNG junior talent to face off against proper competition to gauge where they are at.

NRLQ is only one year old. Look it up.

Oh that sounds good.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Oh that sounds good.

Yep, I edited my post to provide more info. I also mistyped length. It’s 6 weeks not 3 weeks with no finals, just first to finish line wins.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

No.1 in Australia & the Pacific: Rugby League announces record results

The Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) today released the NRL Annual Report 2025, confirming another record breaking year for Rugby League.

www.nrl.com

crazy growth under PVL's leadership

 

[Wb1234]

No.1 in Australia & the Pacific: Rugby League announces record results

The Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) today released the NRL Annual Report 2025, confirming another record breaking year for Rugby League.

www.nrl.com

crazy growth under PVL's leadership

“Record revenue: Total revenue was a new record of $845.6 million having increased by $100.7 million compared to the prior year. Revenue has now increased by $454.2 million or 116% since 2016. “

Fumblers needed a new tv deal to get a significant revenue bump

Tonga / Samoa game would’ve been worth a lot to the arl


“In 2025 Rugby League also broke viewership records in Australia and New Zealand with 224.2 million viewers across the entire season, up 9.5% on the prior year and up by 87.5 million or 64% compared to 2019, when it was 136.7 million cumulative viewers.”

Absolutely smashed the afl numbers close to double lmao

 

[steeden.]

Why would Perth enter the QLD Cup, when the NSW comp with North Sydney Bears being that team makes more sense?

From everything we've heard Perth's feeder teams will be North Sydney and Easts Tigers, rather than entering the "Perth Bears" in. Kinda like what Brisbane, North Qld and the Gold Coast do

 

[SirPies&Beers]

“Record revenue: Total revenue was a new record of $845.6 million having increased by $100.7 million compared to the prior year. Revenue has now increased by $454.2 million or 116% since 2016. “

Fumblers needed a new tv deal to get a significant revenue bump

Tonga / Samoa game would’ve been worth a lot to the arl


“In 2025 Rugby League also broke viewership records in Australia and New Zealand with 224.2 million viewers across the entire season, up 9.5% on the prior year and up by 87.5 million or 64% compared to 2019, when it was 136.7 million cumulative viewers.”

Absolutely smashed the afl numbers close to double lmao

its also the little things like magic round selling out the quickest ever last year, womens origin also at magic round having highest crowd ever.

bears & chiefs will only elevate these numbers. it's gonna be good when the 2028 report comes out

 

[Dogs Of War]

“Record revenue: Total revenue was a new record of $845.6 million having increased by $100.7 million compared to the prior year. Revenue has now increased by $454.2 million or 116% since 2016. “

Fumblers needed a new tv deal to get a significant revenue bump

Tonga / Samoa game would’ve been worth a lot to the arl


“In 2025 Rugby League also broke viewership records in Australia and New Zealand with 224.2 million viewers across the entire season, up 9.5% on the prior year and up by 87.5 million or 64% compared to 2019, when it was 136.7 million cumulative viewers.”

Absolutely smashed the afl numbers close to double lmao

Can't wait till they start throwing in PNG viewership in those figures. Going to go off the planet compared to AFL.

 

[steeden.]

No.1 in Australia & the Pacific: Rugby League announces record results

The Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) today released the NRL Annual Report 2025, confirming another record breaking year for Rugby League.

www.nrl.com

crazy growth under PVL's leadership

is it just me or is the annual report only every second page?

EDIT- looks like it's updated to a 2 page spread