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Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

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That is a cop out, we have had virtually no change from last year.

How many actual penalties were in the 20-40m line? Aside from a head high which is still a penalty now not many.

The top 3 teams have been the most settled and as a result are having no trouble keeping teams out.

Pretty much every game had 2-3 very soft tries in it. That is players not rules or referees
Were the soft tries due to fatigue or not having time to get set defensively though? Nines is full of ‘soft tries’.
 

Wb1234

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I would go to two conferences of ten teams (once chch are in) leading to to two finals systems with one grand final at Suncorp and one at Accor or Allianz and then the Super Bowl type game moving around

Play home and away tour conference plus a few from the other

Top five was the best finals concept ever used
 

Iamback

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Were the soft tries due to fatigue or not having time to get set defensively though? Nines is full of ‘soft tries’.

5 minutes in Moses pretty much moves out of the way, So no just players not putting in an effort on the most part.

There are still drop outs, scrums, No shortage of stoppages with the bunker

So there is plenty of time to get a breather
 

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With the NRL expanding to 18 teams next year – and potentially 20 in the near future – Peter V’landys has confirmed a review into the finals system will occur.


NRL: Ivan Cleary speaks to the media following his sides win over the Sharks.
The NRL will investigate one of the biggest finals shake-ups in the game’s 118-year history with a potential 10-team play-offs series on the horizon for the code.
ARLC chairman Peter V’landys has confirmed a review of the NRL finals system will occur ahead of the competition’s expansion to 18 teams next year – and potentially 20 in the near future.
Following a sizzling start to the 2026 NRL Premiership, V’landys wants more big games and fans staying engaged for longer on the back of a TV ratings bonanza that has dwarfed the AFL’s season launch.
Currently a 17-team competition, the NRL operates on an eight-team, four-week finals series that includes a total of nine games.

However the introduction of the Perth Bears next season, and PNG Chiefs from 2028, will see the NRL expand to a 19-team league within two years.
The ARLC’s ultimate goal is to have a 20-team competition, ideally before 2032, which would see 12 teams excluded from the play-offs under the current finals structure.


V’landys said the introduction of three new teams – Dolphins (2023), Bears (2027) and Chiefs (2028) – to the NRL in five years meant a review of the finals system was due.

“We will be looking at everything,” he said.
“It is a blank piece of paper, especially once we get to 20 teams. That is when we will have the most flexibility.

“That (finals review) is definitely high on the priority list. With more teams, you’ve got to look at the whole competition structure.

“We look at everything through the lens of the fan. We have to look at the structure once we get to more teams.

“I want to satisfy as many fans as possible. If you have more big games at the end of the year to satisfy the fans, then absolutely (we can change it).

“It is a white piece of paper and we will look at it through the lens of the fans.”
The NRL has been operating under its current top eight finals format since the controversial McIntyre System was scrapped in 2012.

The 18-team AFL will this season move to a 10-team finals series with the introduction of a “Wildcard Round” in week one featuring the teams that finish seven to 10.

There are a multitude of permutations for a new-look finals series and the ARLC would have to conduct a deep dive to decide which fit is best – including retaining the current format, implementing the AFL version or a completely different option.
The AFL’s new system could be the easiest to follow but there are other options if the NRL doesn’t want to follow suit.

With the help of artificial intelligence, this columnist analysed a revised finals structure that would see the top 10 teams progress to a five-week, 11-game play-offs series.

The 10-team system would see the top two ranked teams receive a bye in the first week of the finals – a reward for their regular season performances which would also limit player resting in the last round.
Teams three to 10 would feature in four knockout games in the first week of the finals – 3 v 10, 4 v 9, 5 v 8 and 6 v 7 – with no second chance for the losers, creating hype, potential for underdog upsets and ensuring the stakes are high.

The finals series would then progress through qualifying and semi-finals over the next two weeks before the traditional preliminary finals in week four, which decide the grand finalists.

Either system would extend the finals series by a week and inject an extra two matches – generating significant fan interest, crowds, TV ratings and revenue.
A 10-team system would also ensure fans from more clubs remain highly-engaged with the competition for longer at the crunch time of the season.

The NRL has got off to a flying start on the back of its third Las Vegas season launch a fortnight ago.

Thursday night’s Broncos-Eels thriller attracted an average of 772,000 viewers on Channel 9, trumping the AFL’s traditional Carlton-Richmond season-opener (675,000) at the MCG.
The NRL also claimed a win on Friday night as an average of 693,000 tuned in to watch Alex Johnston’s record-breaking feat in the Roosters-Rabbitohs grudge match while the AFL attracted 557,000 on Channel 7 for the Essendon-Hawthorn showdown.

V’landys said the NRL was riding a wave of momentum and it was head office’s job to continue it.

“The ratings have never been bigger than the last two weeks,” he said.
“We are killing the AFL by hundreds of thousands. We beat them on Thursday and Friday night.

“On Thursday they had a pretty serious AFL match, but the Brisbane-Parramatta game was so far ahead it’s not funny.

“Again on Friday night, it was phenomenal. Even the Canberra-Warriors game (on Fox League) was up 10 per cent on last year.”

Tigers specials for the finals now
Thats how the NRL make media releases these days

Hardly any formal announcements anymore
 

siv

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Were the soft tries due to fatigue or not having time to get set defensively though? Nines is full of ‘soft tries’.
You getting multiple factors

2 man or 1 man tackles cannot get up faster than a player playing the ball

Players playing the ball are stepping 2m forward or sideways, climbing over tacklers, holding theur jerseys, rather than getting up. We no longer penalise this illegal play. Just step back and play it

So players will continue to push this illegal play with almost no consequence

Then they also use the ball to get up

All of thos can be fixed by getting players to raise the ball 1m above the ground before playing the ball
 
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Iamback

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Manly v Newcastle.

Manly score. Off the kick off Brooks drops it, Knights score that set.

Try scored. 30 secs wait for it to be confirmed.

Another minute for the conversation

30 secs to get set and kick off, then drop out

We are talking 2 mins break here, That is on players not refs or rules.

Most games have 2-3 examples of similar. So scores look worse now
 

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I would go to two conferences of ten teams (once chch are in) leading to to two finals systems with one grand final at Suncorp and one at Accor or Allianz and then the Super Bowl type game moving around

Play home and away tour conference plus a few from the other

Top five was the best finals concept ever used

Two conferences like the NFL is a lame idea and totally unnecessary… they have to do that because they have 32 teams and only play 17 games …I hate it that if the two best teams are in the same “conference” that they might not have an opportunity to play the GF..

The NRL will have 20 teams soon … just play every team once and another 3-4 games..
 

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The administrators at the time didn't want to penalise the wrestle as it was Melbourne which they should have and it would have been stamped it out so here we are with ridiculous 6 agains.

Which is why I can handle the change and the new rule for hands on the balls - which hasn't been policed yet.

Anything that gets hands off the ball in the ruck I see as a good thing, It is up to the players and coaches to get better
 

Trifili13

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Which is why I can handle the change and the new rule for hands on the balls - which hasn't been policed yet.

Anything that gets hands off the ball in the ruck I see as a good thing, It is up to the players and coaches to get better
The administrators have to be smart and quick to stamp out rubbish what coaches get their players to do. Blow a penalty and if they persist then keep blowing penalties. No need to introduce more rules. They already have the means to stamp it out.
 

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The administrators have to be smart and quick to stamp out rubbish what coaches get their players to do. Blow a penalty and if they persist then keep blowing penalties. No need to introduce more rules. They already have the means to stamp it out.

That is what the players want though and would be a terrible viewing product, that is the issue here
 

siv

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I rather pools rather than conferences

Sydney 10 team.pool
Regional 10 team pool

Then standard Top 10 finals
 

Wb1234

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A "Sydney pool" gives those teams a travel advantage over the "Regional" one, more so than the one they naturally have already. Im not sure the RLPA or the clubs would let such an idea get through
Someone did a post on here and it showed the travel for the non nsw teams would be similar to now
 
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Trifili13

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That is what the players want though and would be a terrible viewing product, that is the issue here
Then haul the coaches in and read them the riot act and tell them that repeat offenders will be sin binned. Because we all know it's usually the good teams/coaches that introduce this crap, the NRL introduces a new rule to combat it and the shit sides get the rough end of the decisions.
 

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Then haul the coaches in and read them the riot act and tell them that repeat offenders will be sin binned. Because we all know it's usually the good teams/coaches that introduce this crap, the NRL introduces a new rule to combat it and the shit sides get the rough end of the decisions.

Who on the NRL has the practical knowledge to be on to this stuff though?

Coaches only have 1 goal to win, NRL have their fingers in multiple pies.

Coaches know these crackdowns don't last long because the NRL want people to still watch the game
 

Jetka100

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I’m going to suggest something the purists will hate (and probably quite a few others)

Have the 4 conferences of the 5 teams as has been suggested before. Every team plays each other once and the teams in the conference twice (23 games in total, currently it is 24).

At the end of the season, will have the current minor premiership winners.

The top team of each conference will go into the finals top 8.

Teams 2 and 3 from each conference will play a knockout game in the first week to determine the last 4 teams of the top 8. The top 8 will be ranked according to how their points were at the end of the season and it is played as it is currently is with the finals system.

13 finals matches. More teams in contention until the end. Some say it rewards mediocrity, I say more entertainment for the masses.
 

Trifili13

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Who on the NRL has the practical knowledge to be on to this stuff though?

Coaches only have 1 goal to win, NRL have their fingers in multiple pies.

Coaches know these crackdowns don't last long because the NRL want people to still watch the game
So let the lunatics run the asylum.

The NRL will be a billion dollar business shortly with eyes on a global audience. Surely they should be able to control what the game looks like rather than having coaches dictate it. And if not, get someone in who can.
 
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