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Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

Iamback

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The 6 again rule has been essential in the codes rise in popularity to unprecedented levels since covid , that in turn has resulted in revenues being a record levels & a huge pay day coming with the next TV deal & with money we can finance development in pathways & invest in the expansion into other markets.

It stays .. period
Wankers wanting us to scrap it & return to wrestlemania need to be shown the door.

These latest adjustments to the 6 agains are a little frustrating but thats all , this narrative we're playing a completely different game is ridiculous & mainly coming from silly old farts yelling at clouds. We do need refs to just pull the reigns a bit , but also coaches & players to stop the cynical shit , ruck after ruck after ruck & then complain about 6 agains.

My team kicks it to just outside the 20, then gives away 6 again while the defence gets set.

I am sure other teams are doing similar, so refs in those situations have no choice. So it is a bit of both as you said
 

Last Week

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There is no other team sport I can think of that is more influenced by officials decisions ( refs and bunker) than Rugby League … that will still be the case a long time after this 6 again “crisis” blows over in a couple of weeks …

I can't agree with this any more. Even in NFL the referees don't influence the result of a game like a Rugby League referee can. And that's a sport withridiculous intricacies in it's rules.

My issue is not so much the amount of 6 agains or penalties blown, it's the inconsistent and uneven nature that they're given. The refs do themselves no favours when they are inconsistent with the speed of the play the ball in the same game, their ridiculous interpretations of 'dangerous' or high contact, and the vagueness of 'ruck infringement'.
 

BuffaloRules

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I can't agree with this any more. Even in NFL the referees don't influence the result of a game like a Rugby League referee can. And that's a sport withridiculous intricacies in it's rules.

My issue is not so much the amount of 6 agains or penalties blown, it's the inconsistent and uneven nature that they're given. The refs do themselves no favours when they are inconsistent with the speed of the play the ball in the same game, their ridiculous interpretations of 'dangerous' or high contact, and the vagueness of 'ruck infringement'.

And let’s not forget the inconsistencies with sin-bins … what’s deemed to be a sin-binning offence that costs a team the game one week, is merely an “on report” the next game ..
 

Valheru

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A team wanting to slow the play down, wants the ref to stop play and explain it to them.

A team never has 100% momentum all the time, what was stopping Dearden kicking a 40/20 or a 20/40 to get momentum back

That game had 13 error each side. Instead of just watching the ball. They play at it,

Ref calls a scrum, momentum is stopped

They also had 2 captain's challenges to halt momentum.

Lodge no try. Stopped play.

Hell Payten only used 6 interchanges, using 8 gives them more stamina
Of course they do

Slowing the play down is a legitimate tactic in any sport as is time/clock management.

PVL is obsessed with points being scored though and is happy to see regular blowouts in pursuit of this endeavour.
 

kurt faulk

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I can't agree with this any more. Even in NFL the referees don't influence the result of a game like a Rugby League referee can. And that's a sport withridiculous intricacies in it's rules.

My issue is not so much the amount of 6 agains or penalties blown, it's the inconsistent and uneven nature that they're given. The refs do themselves no favours when they are inconsistent with the speed of the play the ball in the same game, their ridiculous interpretations of 'dangerous' or high contact, and the vagueness of 'ruck infringement'.

Haha, is this some kind of a joke? The nfl refs and video refs are abominable.

They held tom brady's hand throughout his career. His team could do no wrong while the opposition were reffed harshly. As soon as he retired they turned their attention on mahommes.

Don't use nfl refs as some kind of beacon. They're the worst on the planet.

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siv

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On the flip side they can't waste time arguing with the ref about the decision that way.

I am sure when they do video they can see exactly what was done
So you just strip the ball or something else and force a penalty to stop play
 

siv

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Of course they do

Slowing the play down is a legitimate tactic in any sport as is time/clock management.

PVL is obsessed with points being scored though and is happy to see regular blowouts in pursuit of this endeavour.
No he is obsessed with

"ball in play" metric

Scoring tries takes the ball out of play
 

BuffaloRules

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Haha, is this some kind of a joke? The nfl refs and video refs are abominable.

They held tom brady's hand throughout his career. His team could do no wrong while the opposition were reffed harshly. As soon as he retired they turned their attention on mahommes.

Don't use nfl refs as some kind of beacon. They're the worst on the planet.

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The NRL is worse … that doesn’t mean the NFL is good though …
 

mongoose

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I've said this on here before and people mocked me but I'm going full @T-Boon here, the game needs to look at changing to 12 v 12... that will give you your more open, less defensive style of game play.
 

T-Boon

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I can fully understand those fans that complain that the 6 again rule gives the refs too much control and unchecked influence.
But others are complaining that there is too much attack - I just cannot get my head around that.
 

T-Boon

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I've said this on here before and people mocked me but I'm going full @T-Boon here, the game needs to look at changing to 12 v 12... that will give you your more open, less defensive style of game play.
Many have said that, including Joey Johns.
I'd actually go 11 aside though and go back to 5metres.
 

Canard

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It felt like last year, any team, had a chance to win it every given week.

Now it feels like the competition is extremely lopsided, and most games are a boring flogathon.

An average winning margin of 20 points per game, isn't going to be a sustainable ratings and viewing sport.
 
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It felt like last year, any team, had a chance to win it every given week.

Now it feels like the competition is extremely lopsided, and most games are a boring flogathon.

An average winning margin of 20 points per game, isn't going to be a sustainable ratings and viewing sport.
I`m in a last man standing comp at work and apart from Sharks/Dolphins this week is a nightmare.
 

some11

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No he is obsessed with

"ball in play" metric

Scoring tries takes the ball out of play
We aren't far off from getting rid of scrums and conversions. They take up too much time.

Just give an automatic 2pts after a try based on vibes.
 
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But others are complaining that there is too much attack - I just cannot get my head around that.

That's because you keep stating that "more tries = good" regardless of whether they are the result of skillful play or a combination of tired defenders seeing the attacking team plowing through tired defenders to score "soft" tries.

Have a look at how many tries have been relatively "soft" due to just plain bad defence due to fatigue?

People do not want to watch glorified training run throughs as a match.
 

newc18

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It felt like last year, any team, had a chance to win it every given week.

Now it feels like the competition is extremely lopsided, and most games are a boring flogathon.

An average winning margin of 20 points per game, isn't going to be a sustainable ratings and viewing sport.
The wooden spooners are currently 2-0 lol. I didn't expect that.

I think you feel that way because your team is struggling. I felt similar at times last year.
 

T-Boon

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My team kicks it to just outside the 20, then gives away 6 again while the defence gets set.

I am sure other teams are doing similar, so refs in those situations have no choice. So it is a bit of both as you said
If that happens such that it is obvious to the fans .... bin them.
 

mongoose

Coach
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It felt like last year, any team, had a chance to win it every given week.

Now it feels like the competition is extremely lopsided, and most games are a boring flogathon.

An average winning margin of 20 points per game, isn't going to be a sustainable ratings and viewing sport.
this is it, you can argue back and forth all you like about set restarts and if they are deserved or not but if most games are blowout, people will begin to switch it off..
 
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