Phil Rothfield- Nine Sydney teams is too many

[RL The greatest game]

nar that was a merger. if the central coast bears were to come into the nrl and played all their home games there, it would work

In the short term the only way the CC will get a NRL team is for a Sydney team to relocate. Long term might be different.

 

[rabbitohs95]

Thanks for the info tba.

Its definitely a shame the Bears got shafted like that. As a younger fan, I never got to see them in action, so it would be great if they got a gig on the central coast. It should be the first team to come in.

 

[thorson1987]

Thanks for the info tba.

Its definitely a shame the Bears got shafted like that. As a younger fan, I never got to see them in action, so it would be great if they got a gig on the central coast. It should be the first team to come in.

My first ever game of live NSWRL.

http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/seasons/nswrl-1993/round-9/north-sydney-vs-brisbane/summary.html

 

[insert.pause]

The CC will never have a NRL Club, the economy can't sustain it.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

My first ever game of live NSWRL.

http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/seasons/nswrl-1993/round-9/north-sydney-vs-brisbane/summary.html

20k in north Sydney oval. Must have been chockas and a great day.

 

[t-ba]

Those 1990s crowds at NSO are a marker as to why consolidation in the fashion it was done was simply geniused. Norths had the numbers to survive in Sydney, and didn't even need to move to the Central Coast. They had the potential to be as financial as the Roosters when you consider the wealth in their catchment.

They should have gone to the SFS and then figured out how to get back to the North Shore.

 

[Foz]

If they cut a Sydney based league side it goes without saying cut a Sydney based journalist as one less side to report on.

 

[BunniesMan]

The weak links in Sydney are Wests Tigers, Cronulla, Penrith, Manly. I am never for folding a club but I do think relocation could be a good idea.

 

[Blues Riff]

The weak links in Sydney are Wests Tigers, Cronulla, Penrith, Manly. I am never for folding a club but I do think relocation could be a good idea.

Nothing weak about the 'Riff old mate. The largest RL nursery in the world is finally being developed to it's potential. Where are we gunna go? ....and don't say merge with Parra or I may become abusive.

 

[BlueandGold]

The weak links in Sydney are Wests Tigers, Cronulla, Penrith, Manly. I am never for folding a club but I do think relocation could be a good idea.

:lol::lol::lol:

whats your definition of week link?

Panthers 19k Members, 147million in revenue, 17million profit last year, massive Jnr nursery, planned football Academy worth over 900million.

http://www.panthers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/AnnualReport2014_PRLC_web.pdf

Cronulla own there own stadium, 18million profit in 2013, 3million in 2014, Leagues club backing, 27million in revenue,

http://sharkies.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/AnnualReport_2015.pdf

These 2 clubs along with Parra and Dogs are not going anywhere. ;-)

 

[BlueandGold]

The weak links in Sydney are Wests Tigers, Cronulla, Penrith, Manly. I am never for folding a club but I do think relocation could be a good idea.

double post**

 

[ashton]

The weak links in Sydney are Wests Tigers, Cronulla, Penrith, Manly. I am never for folding a club but I do think relocation could be a good idea.

And what happens when James Packer bails out of Souths?

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

And what happens when James Packer bails out of Souths?

He'll resume his spot with East's, and have a hearty lol@souffs.

 

[BlueandGold]

And what happens when James Packer bails out of Souths?

What do Souths do in the Lean years, no leagues club/Business backing the club.

Atm in good times they make some cash but what happens in the bad times.

Even West Tigers have 2 leagues clubs backing them in the lean years.

Week links in Sydney

Dragons, NRL grants in recent times and shrinking leagues club grants.

Manly, a decade of success and still rubbish crowds, rubbish stadia, no leagues club backing in lean years.

Newcastle, in good years a massive club but nothing to stop them from going broke in the lean years.

These are the clubs that struggle for sustainability.

 

[Perth Red]

NRL needs to work out what realistically is the min revenue clubs need to be sustainable then decide if it can afford to up the grant to sort them out. Maybe they are going to have to bring in different levels of grant payments like the afl to cover clubs that are never going to have the other funding options to keep them afloat.

What does it cost to run an nrl club and where are the main expenditure areas? Appreciate it varies depending stadium costs/deals etc. but what would be a relaistic bottom line revenue that a club would need to break even? Some clubs not being able to attract full sponsorship portfolios must be a key factor.

 

[Last Week]

:lol::lol::lol:

whats your definition of week link?

Panthers 19k Members, 147million in revenue, 17million profit last year, massive Jnr nursery, planned football Academy worth over 900million.

http://www.panthers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/AnnualReport2014_PRLC_web.pdf

Cronulla own there own stadium, 18million profit in 2013, 3million in 2014, Leagues club backing, 27million in revenue,

http://sharkies.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/AnnualReport_2015.pdf

These 2 clubs along with Parra and Dogs are not going anywhere. ;-)

What do Souths do in the Lean years, no leagues club/Business backing the club.

Atm in good times they make some cash but what happens in the bad times.

Even West Tigers have 2 leagues clubs backing them in the lean years.

Week links in Sydney

Dragons, NRL grants in recent times and shrinking leagues club grants.

Manly, a decade of success and still rubbish crowds, rubbish stadia, no leagues club backing in lean years.

Newcastle, in good years a massive club but nothing to stop them from going broke in the lean years.

These are the clubs that struggle for sustainability.

Stop it.

Aren't Wests Ashfield the only ones putting into the Wests Tigers merger at the moment (other than the NRL themselves) because Balmain are, putting it gently, f**ked?

 

[Perth Red]

Interestingly panthers had significant increase in revenue to $26million in 13-14 but still lost $780k! Surprised that they spend more in non playing staff salaries than players wages. Makes for interesting reading. That much revenue must put them in the top 5 revenue earners?

http://www.panthers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/AnnualReport2014_PDRLFCweb.pdf

 

[alien]

Even West Tigers have 2 leagues clubs backing them in the lean years.

No they don't. Balmain Leagues Club is screwed. Wests Ashfield Leagues Club is the only one.

 

[alien]

And what happens when James Packer bails out of Souths?

What makes you think that will happen???

 

[Perth Red]

And if he did no doubt someone else would buy in, they have built their "brand" and it will be the strength of that which sees them through any lean times on the field. Any club that can get a stadium deal like they have and a 25k membership base plus decent corporate sponsorship portfolio should be able to stand on its own without a leagues club or a sugar daddy.