Players refusing to sing the National anthem in protest

[Timbo]

The one avenue??? f**k off you imbecile. You are putting words in my mouth you pathetic merkin.

No, of course not. They could protest quietly. On their own. Or with the other people who have suffered centuries of trauma that you feel no responsibility for.

Just as long as you don't have to see it or feel it uncomfortable. And if you think I'm a merkin, I'll wear that like badge of honour.

 

[betcats]

No, of course not. They could protest quietly. On their own. Or with the other people who have suffered centuries of trauma that you feel no responsibility for.

Just as long as you don't have to see it or feel it uncomfortable. And if you think I'm a merkin, I'll wear that like badge of honour.

Oh shut the f**k up. In the age of social media there are plenty of ways for already famous people to get attention for any issue they wish to highlight. As I said earlier the could of approached the NRL who are very conscious of our indigenous people and they could've done it in a way using RL to help their cause without it taking away from origin.

Now f**k off if you cant discuss it without the outrage and completely making shit up that I didn't say, you are a dumb merkin of the highest order.

FTR ive already said in this thread I have no problem changing the anthem, I don't even like the f**king song and think it should be inclusive of our first Australians. I just think this is taking away from the game tonight now. What a f**king joke.

 

[franklin2323]

Jesus f**king Christ, listen to yourselves.

Someone else would've committed genocide anyway, so that makes the fact that British colonizers did it less bad some how?

Where did I say it was acceptable? It was hardly expection to the norm though but it was hardly all bad though. The good should be celebrated too and need to find an athem that is inclusive of all.

 

[franklin2323]

Oh shut the f**k up. In the age of social media there are plenty of ways for already famous people to get attention for any issue they wish to highlight. As I said earlier the could of approached the NRL who are very conscious of our indigenous people and they could've done it in a way using RL to help their cause without it taking away from origin.

Now f**k off if you cant discuss it without the outrage and completely making shit up that I didn't say, you are a dumb merkin of the highest order.

FTR ive already said I have no problem changing the anthem, I don't even like the f**king song and think it should be inclusive of our first Australians. I just think this is taking away from the game tonight now. What a f**king joke.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/st...e/news-story/af1f78f9b55c068afcb24b65ef550c34

Here is an alternate view from an semi high profile indigenous ex player. This is the sort of attitude that will move the country forward

 

[franklin2323]

So that is a good enough reason to just not let them have their protest you reckon?

Depends. Do you want protest or a resolution?

 

[betcats]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/st...e/news-story/af1f78f9b55c068afcb24b65ef550c34

Here is an alternate view from an semi high profile indigenous ex player. This is the sort of attitude that will move the country forward

Kurtley Beale had a different stance to Walker and them as well. Does that make Hodgo and Beale racist @Timbo??? You dumb merkin.

 

[no name]

How is it taking away from the game?
Some players are just doing what they would always do.

The reporter that asked Walker the questions sucked a lot of people in, hook, line and sinker.

 

[franklin2323]

How is it taking away from the game?
Some players are just doing what they would always do.

The reporter that asked Walker the questions sucked a lot of people in, hook, line and sinker.

The focus should be on the game. Not social issues that NRL have no control over

 

[carcharias]

Depends. Do you want protest or a resolution?

What is your idea for resolution?

 

[myrrh ken]

Gee, the decision for some blokes to not sing a song they don't want to has really riled some people up.

I especially liked the bit about preventing those notorious colonising empires, China and Japan, from wiping out the local population.

 

[President Trump]

The most annoying thing about this whole story is that it isn't even original - some hack reporter has decided to import a fringe American protest gesture and tried to replicate it in Australia. FFS.

 

[franklin2323]

What is your idea for resolution?

I am Indigenous but deal with others in community with bigger issues than what the anthem is. I have yet to hear anyone against changing it problem is those in charge are often in a bubble.

So those who want it changed I would say get a FB group or something get numbers together and go to MP's and go from there. Maybe the players as a whole go to the NRL and get them to lobby too and actually get change happening

 

[carcharias]

I am Indigenous but deal with others in community with bigger issues than what the anthem is. I have yet to hear anyone against changing it problem is those in charge are often in a bubble.

So those who want it changed I would say get a FB group or something get numbers together and go to MP's and go from there. Maybe the players as a whole go to the NRL and get them to lobby too and actually get change happening

You are indigenous?

 

[betcats]

I am Indigenous but deal with others in community with bigger issues than what the anthem is. I

There are big gaps in life expectancy between indigenous and non indigenous Australians. There is a huge gap in the incarceration rates between them as well as I am sure you know. Im all for changing the song to something more inclusive but there are much bigger issues out there then the anthem, all this talk about it isn't achieving anything at all. I like origin week and the build up, I don't like that so much of it has been taken up by this discussion about the anthem. I don't think there is anything wrong with that.

 

[myrrh ken]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/st...e/news-story/af1f78f9b55c068afcb24b65ef550c34

Here is an alternate view from an semi high profile indigenous ex player. This is the sort of attitude that will move the country forward

By keeping the status quo and convincing certain people that they are wrong?

Maybe we can sanction players that don't sing with gusto and invoke Mal's "good bloke" policy.

 

[no name]

The focus should be on the game. Not social issues that NRL have no control over

Other than answering the original question, have the players actively used the game as a platform for political statement?

The people who have taken any focus away from the game are the people outraged that they’re not singing.

 

[no name]

There are big gaps in life expectancy between indigenous and non indigenous Australians. There is a huge gap in the incarceration rates between them as well as I am sure you know. Im all for changing the song to something more inclusive but there are much bigger issues out there then the anthem, all this talk about it isn't achieving anything at all. I like origin week and the build up, I don't like that so much of it has been taken up by this discussion about the anthem. I don't think there is anything wrong with that.

People can advocate for more than one change at a time.

Just because there are bigger issues to solve, doesn’t mean smaller ones can’t be addressed.

 

[franklin2323]

There are big gaps in life expectancy between indigenous and non indigenous Australians. There is a huge gap in the incarceration rates between them as well as I am sure you know. Im all for changing the song to something more inclusive but there are much bigger issues out there then the anthem, all this talk about it isn't achieving anything at all. I like origin week and the build up, I don't like that so much of it has been taken up by this discussion about the anthem. I don't think there is anything wrong with that.

exactly. 3% of the population is indigenous. Yet almost 30% is in prison. 10% finish high school...Far bigger issues than whether an anthem is disrespectful or not. It is great we can protest and good on those for standing up for what they believe in but many many other issues

 

[OldPanther]

Ironic ey?

We aren't doing that though are we? They are being allowed to have their say and a lot of the "other side" agree. I definitely think it should be changed.

 

[OldPanther]

This argument again. f**k me dead.

It's the absolute worst, most pathetic, 'I'm not racist - but' level of argument.

You have no problem with indigenous Australians protesting mistreatment - you just don't think they should use the one avenue available to them to make it mainstream. Why can't these ungratful blackfellas just be accepting of the fact that we brought them 'civilization' and who cares if we eradicated their culture and committed genocide against them in the process? Why can't they just get over two hundred years of being literally treated like animals? Who cares that they don't live as long, earn less, have poorer access to education, are more likely to be incarcerated or suffer substance abuse? Not my fault! The British brought roads! They should get with the program and stop whinging because without the noble white man they'd still be in the bush hunting and gathering!

You are a poor excuse for a human being.

Well they are willing to wear the colours and emblems which are as much part of the problem if the anthem is.