Please, anyone else in 2021

[Chins get the wins]

Panthers get more respect from me …

Roosters never seem to lose anybody they want to keep …should have actually won the comp more often IMO

I'm worried about Uncle Nick coming for the Clearys

 

[Steel Saints]

Huh? How many of them could actually win? Let’s be honest the choice is two teams. If you go by that barometer most competitions in the world are more open than this one.

The thing is, I don't mind seeing Roosters, Storm or Penrith dominate, because they are raising the bar. It is up to the other 14 teams to improve themselves and catch up.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

So this small minded Roosters are cheating the cap baloney is just that.

What they do as a club is offer the best business minds in Sydney to advise players where to and how to invest their money. They've built that stable of business people over the last 40 years which has enabled them to have first class facilities in some of the best areas of Sydney. Of course players are going to be attracted to sign.

That's their strength. Just like the panthers strength is their junior production line. The storm's strength is Bellamy and their ability to identify top talent.

That's what other clubs have to strive for - a way to make themselves stronger.

 

[Chins get the wins]

So this small minded Roosters are cheating the cap baloney is just that.

What they do as a club is offer the best business minds in Sydney to advise players where to and how to invest their money. They've built that stable of business people over the last 40 years which has enabled them to have first class facilities in some of the best areas of Sydney. Of course players are going to be attracted to sign.

That's their strength. Just like the panthers strength is their junior production line. The storm's strength is Bellamy and their ability to identify top talent.

That's what other clubs have to strive for - a way to make themselves stronger.

Every side cheats the cap but they take the piss. We have lucked into the world's best player being the coaches son, so we obviously pay Ivan a bit more to top up Nathan's contact

 

[Iamback]

The argument isn’t parity mate. It is unpredictability. When something is unpredictable, it is more exciting. Also, I’m not talking about within a year, or even a couple of years, I’m talking about five years, ten years or twenty years.

For example, I have never seen an NBA team or a MLB team (I don’t know anything about gridiron) to essentially be in the top 1-2 or 3 chances to win a competition for 15-20 years as the Storm and Roosters have. That’s weird.

So you got 27 perfect rounds in tipping? There is plenty of unpredictability.

On the Storm alone.

They lost to Canberra at home in the 2019 Prelim.

Lost to Warriors in 2013 Prelim.

Lost to us in the PF as Premiers in 2021.

2022 they finished 5th and lost to 8th placed Canberra. Roosters that year was also out in week 1 of the finals

This is with a Top 3 coach of all time and atleast 2 future immortals in the squad.

What usually happens is x team goes well for a season or 2 and then some players get overpaid and they fall away.

If you compare say Cameron Smith with say Steph Curry or Tom Brady. Hell Jordan even got 6 rings so those sports with elite talent and you get teams dominating.

Atleast you get the odd team come from the clouds for a season or 2

 

[Iamback]

Nrl you can

Just most nrl teams are too lazy to do what Penrith did

Good luck to Penrith let them keep winning till other clubs start developing players

You can get teams to makes finals regularly but you need Origin guys and good coaching to be regular top 4.

 

[Iamback]

Every side cheats the cap but they take the piss. We have lucked into the world's best player being the coaches son, so we obviously pay Ivan a bit more to top up Nathan's contact

I am sure Nathan didn't pay for the family home what it would of got in an auction... that is how it is

 

[Iamback]

The thing is, I don't mind seeing Roosters, Storm or Penrith dominate, because they are raising the bar. It is up to the other 14 teams to improve themselves and catch up.

That is how I see it.

Look at the retention of the Parra 2022 GF squad as an example.

Only 2 years ago

Storm and Roosters finished 5th and 6th.

That was the chance for other teams to lift that standard and they fell away

 

[BuffaloRules]

The predictably has been a bit more noticeable during the playoffs the past few years IMO…

Need a year like 2005 where 4 v 5 played in the GF

 

[Iamback]

The predictably has been a bit more noticeable during the playoffs the past few years IMO…

Need a year like 2005 where 4 v 5 played in the GF

Aside from last year we rarely get 1 v 2. The new finals system reduces the chances

 

[BuffaloRules]

Aside from last year we rarely get 1 v 2. The new finals system reduces the chances

it seems a while since a team outside the Top 4 made the final

 

[alexwilliams_66692007]

it seems a while since a team outside the Top 4 made the final

Yep. Cowboys in 2017 was the last time.

 

[blue bags]

Hopefully soon we have an era like 2001-2005 or 2014-2016 where the premiership changes hands a few times.

Top 5 . We're the last 5 NRL winners
Storm
Panther's
Rooster's
Shark's
Cowboys
1st time it has happened

 

[JamesRustle]

Nrl you can

Just most nrl teams are too lazy to do what Penrith did

Good luck to Penrith let them keep winning till other clubs start developing players

If every team did what Penrith did... there'd still be a wooden spooner, a top 8 and a premier... granted all would be on equal wins, with position determined by F/A. All we'd argue about as fans would be why we didn't take that field goal that would have been the difference between a spoon and top 4 finish.

 

[Iamback]

it seems a while since a team outside the Top 4 made the final

Yes but we have had different combinations inside that top 4.

2023 - 1 v 2 but Bronx 1st GF since 2015. Before that was 2006

2022 - 1 v 4 Parra 1st GF since 2009
2021 - 2 v 3 Souffs 1st GF since 2014
2020 - was Panthers 1st in 17 years.
2019- 2 v 4. Canberra's since 1994
2017 Cows made it from 8th
2016 - Sharks 1st Premiership
2015 - NQ 1st comp

So you have 9 teams in GF in the last 10 years. Some of whom breaking long droughts in the process

 

[JamesRustle]

I almost wish we cheated the cap like Easts but being legit is cool

Cap cheating usually comes to the surface 3+ years after the cheating occurred... enjoy your *premierships* now as they may well be stripped from the record books in a few years.

 

[TheEroticGamer]

The ‘21 Panthers Storm prelim was the most important event in rugby league history. A day when believers were born and walls were broken down. A day when we were saved from the Roosters/Storm terrorist cabal. A wankfest over Bellamy vs Wayne, dodged.

May the saviours of our great game, the Panthers, continue winning premierships and eventually get home crowd averages of over 100k. Amen.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Yes but we have had different combinations inside that top 4.

2023 - 1 v 2 but Bronx 1st GF since 2015. Before that was 2006

2022 - 1 v 4 Parra 1st GF since 2009
2021 - 2 v 3 Souffs 1st GF since 2014
2020 - was Panthers 1st in 17 years.
2019- 2 v 4. Canberra's since 1994
2017 Cows made it from 8th
2016 - Sharks 1st Premiership
2015 - NQ 1st comp

So you have 9 teams in GF in the last 10 years. Some of whom breaking long droughts in the process

They need a year where a less fancied team has a run IMO … I appreciate that this shouldnt be expected to happen regularly…although three years in a row 09,10,11 there were three teams 6th or lower that made the final…( they all lost though) …

This year and last season has been predictable throughout all the finals games and there were a number of one sided games … both prelims last year were very one sided for the favourites so I’m hoping we don’t see the same this year …of course the GF was a classic

 

[King hit]

Yep. Cowboys in 2017 was the last time.

By far the most boring grand final I’ve ever seen

 

[Chins get the wins]

Cap cheating usually comes to the surface 3+ years after the cheating occurred... enjoy your *premierships* now as they may well be stripped from the record books in a few years.

It's not even possible with the players we have let go. We are sweet