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PNG's back.

titoelcolombiano

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"The PNG Government, as well as a slew of cashed-up corporate behemoths in the region – such as ExxonMobil, Santos and Newcrest – are expected to cover any shortfall."

This is interesting 🤔
 
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The Australian Government has reportedly indicated that up to $25 million a year would be committed to underwriting a PNG franchise. The PNG Government, as well as a slew of cashed-up corporate behemoths in the region – such as ExxonMobil, Santos and Newcrest – are expected to cover any shortfall.
Albanese said a PNG-based NRL team could help counter the encroachment of China in the Pacific.

So $25m from the Aus Gov on top of $17m from the annual grant. That's $42m.

What happens when Australians revolt against the Gov wasting money on a PNG football team when there's a housing crisis?

You can bet your arse the Libs will kick up a stink about this in the southern states.
 

MugaB

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So $25m from the Aus Gov on top of $17m from the annual grant. That's $42m.

What happens when Australians revolt against the Gov wasting money on a PNG football team when there's a housing crisis?

You can bet your arse the Libs will kick up a stink about this in the southern states.
Whos going to care? There's a AFL team in tassie doing a whole lot worse, foreign aid goes to png annually, this would be a drop in the ocean for the govt and would politically advance relations, even if they decided to create a work around by getting an investor to pay for the team on the govt behalf to swell any public backlash, the end result is the same, they all want this team to happen... the naysayers here on LU are all pushing agendas for a different bids, or are worried about there own teams player stocks, but png works on so many levels, and its being underwritten, automatically that pushes them in front for the ARLC, as the money they make from selling the 9th game is just gravey....
The other bids are in line for 19th and 20th no issue there... might aswell open a new thread for it now... Perth should be a shoe in for that
 
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Whos going to care? There's a AFL team in tassie doing a whole lot worse, foreign aid goes to png annually, this would be a drop in the ocean for the govt and would politically advance relations, even if they decided to create a work around by getting an investor to pay for the team on the govt behalf to swell any public backlash, the end result is the same, they all want this team to happen... the naysayers here on LU are all pushing agendas for a different bids, or are worried about there own teams player stocks, but png works on so many levels, and its being underwritten, automatically that pushes them in front for the ARLC, as the money they make from selling the 9th game is just gravey....
The other bids are in line for 19th and 20th no issue there... might aswell open a new thread for it now... Perth should be a shoe in for that

What happens if PNG end up allowing China to build a military base on their territory?

The Aus Gov will have wasted all of this money for nothing and end up looking like mugs.

Foreign aid is meant to improve livelihoods of people in third-world countries. Spending $25m per annum on an NRL club doesn't do anything for Papuans living in poverty without access to a proper diet and medical supplies.

The bid wouldn't be planning on basing itself in Cairns if PNG works on so many levels.
 

MugaB

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What happens if PNG end up allowing China to build a military base on their territory?

The Aus Gov will have wasted all of this money for nothing and end up looking like mugs.

Foreign aid is meant to improve livelihoods of people in third-world countries. Spending $25m per annum on an NRL club doesn't do anything for Papuans living in poverty without access to a proper diet and medical supplies.

The bid wouldn't be planning on basing itself in Cairns if PNG works on so many levels.
The bid has to base itself in Cairns or somewhere neutral for it to be a pasifika team.... otherwise its just a PNG team.. i think your confusing the two...
The whole point it to have a team for the region to aspire to, you should know this very well being a cowboys fan... Townsville is the hub, the base, the centre, but it represents the region...
If there wasn't a north qld team, and they wanted to get in now, we'd all laugh at the thought of a population of 200k trying to get a licence over a possibility of another Brisbane3 or Perth team... but it doesn't work like that never has for League..

The govt already look like muggs for the tassie stadium
 
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The bid has to base itself in Cairns or somewhere neutral for it to be a pasifika team.... otherwise its just a PNG team.. i think your confusing the two...
The whole point it to have a team for the region to aspire to, you should know this very well being a cowboys fan... Townsville is the hub, the base, the centre, but it represents the region...
If there wasn't a north qld team, and they wanted to get in now, we'd all laugh at the thought of a population of 200k trying to get a licence over a possibility of another Brisbane3 or Perth team... but it doesn't work like that never has for League..

The govt already look like muggs for the tassie stadium

Did the consoritum behind the PNG plan on their bid representing the entire South Pacific?

I thought it was a stipulation attached by Albanese.

The only reason the bid is basing itself in Cairns is because Port Moresby is one of the poorest and most dangerous places in the world. No NRL player would want to take their family to live in Port Moresby.

Cairns is already part of the Cowboys' catchment.
 

MugaB

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Did the consoritum behind the PNG plan on their bid representing the entire South Pacific?

I thought it was a stipulation attached by Albanese.

The only reason the bid is basing itself in Cairns is because Port Moresby is one of the poorest and most dangerous places in the world. No NRL player would want to take their family to live in Port Moresby.

Cairns is already part of the Cowboys' catchment.
Cairns can be Cairns without the cowboys.

catchments dont mean shit these days...
Titans just lost the burleigh bears to the broncos WTF is that about?

Correct Port Moresby is a poor and crime ridden city, so basing a pasifika team there isn't a draw card for your nathan clearys off contract, cairns is in Australia one hour south of it tho..
Gus gould has taken pre season panthers games there in the past, and always had an emergency chopper on standby for any injuries that might need a hospital back at cairns...

The consortium wants to own the franchise, they want to run this franchise, the caviare is that the aus govt will only fund and support it if its a pasifika team for the region under the arlc wishes, not a specifically Port Moresby only team... so its a broader idea almost like "THE" dolphins of SEQ, not just a PNG focused side
 

docbrown

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"The PNG Government, as well as a slew of cashed-up corporate behemoths in the region – such as ExxonMobil, Santos and Newcrest – are expected to cover any shortfall."

This is interesting 🤔
Those companies should get the thing over the line by building a stadium and accommodation for players - both home and visiting teams. Because their execs don't go places without a massive security team. And that's what a PNG team will need - a stadium built like a prison.
 
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Those companies should get the thing over the line by building a stadium and accommodation for players - both home and visiting teams. Because their execs don't go places without a massive security team. And that's what a PNG team will need - a stadium built like a prison.

Would anyone want to live in a gated community?

It would only take a year or two for players and their families to get home sick.
 

jim_57

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Would anyone want to live in a gated community?

It would only take a year or two for players and their families to get home sick.

Probably more like a week or 2. Money isn’t everything and very few players if any would sacrifice their Australian lifestyle to live in Port Moresby. Even if you doubled their pay which is essentially impossible under a salary cap. It would have to be based in Australia to start, Sydney would make more sense than Cairns though, the Cairns idea is just the Cairns mayor trying wedge Cairns in to the bid when PNG haven’t shown any interest in that, the media has run with the idea.
 

docbrown

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Would anyone want to live in a gated community?

It would only take a year or two for players and their families to get home sick.
I agree and I wasn't even talking about for normal life. I was simply talking about security for games and having accommodation right next to the stadium. Travelling from one side of Port Moresby to the other can be dangerous.

I think it will be really hard for PNG to attract players from Australia & New Zealand long term.
 

Perth Red

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The png bid team have been very clear, png run, png based, png only. It seems, like the bears, their non negotiables are not aligning with what the funders want. Listening to Vlandys today it sounds like they anre only appeasing the feds anyway and not seriously looking at png.
 

Colk

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The png bid team have been very clear, png run, png based, png only. It seems, like the bears, their non negotiables are not aligning with what the funders want. Listening to Vlandys today it sounds like they anre only appeasing the feds anyway and not seriously looking at png.

Is that what you want to think or what you really think?
 

Perth Red

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Is that what you want to think or what you really think?
He used the words “have to” when talking about why they are looking at png. If that isn’t paying lip service to the idea to appease the feds dont know what is. And it’s working, he’s got grassroots png funding and international funding out of them so far. unless there is serious long term security around the funding and it’s way above what the club will need so the nrl gets a hefty slice of it then the odds are very slim of it being a reality
 
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I agree and I wasn't even talking about for normal life. I was simply talking about security for games and having accommodation right next to the stadium. Travelling from one side of Port Moresby to the other can be dangerous.

I think it will be really hard for PNG to attract players from Australia & New Zealand long term.

I think the North Sydney Bears should be considered ahead of a Port Moresby. Not because I think we need a 10th team in Sydney. But because it would present less headaches than a team from Port Moresby.

I'd love to see PNG become a prosperous country with multiple teams in the NRL. The problem is the country is decades away from being in a position to do field one team in the NRL.
 
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Probably more like a week or 2. Money isn’t everything and very few players if any would sacrifice their Australian lifestyle to live in Port Moresby. Even if you doubled their pay which is essentially impossible under a salary cap. It would have to be based in Australia to start, Sydney would make more sense than Cairns though, the Cairns idea is just the Cairns mayor trying wedge Cairns in to the bid when PNG haven’t shown any interest in that, the media has run with the idea.

The Cairns mayor should be investing in a revamp of Barlow Park so it can host a couple of double headers featuring the Cowboys. Make it a yearly event. Use it to promote tourism to FNQ.
 
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The png bid team have been very clear, png run, png based, png only. It seems, like the bears, their non negotiables are not aligning with what the funders want. Listening to Vlandys today it sounds like they anre only appeasing the feds anyway and not seriously looking at png.


I don't know what to think about V'landys's comments on PNG. Part of me thinks he's just stringing Albanese along. The other part makes me think he's serious about this f**ked up proposal. Only time will tell. I think he won't make a decision on the 18th team until Redcliffe have had 2 or 3 seasons under their belt.

Surely now is the perfect time to add a team to Perth?

I'm surprised at how little he talks about Perth. The WA Gov is begging him for a team.

The best option for PNG and the South Pacific is an annual window at the end of the season for them to play internationals against one another. We've now got that. Build academies in these countries and provide stronger pathways to the state competitions. Let the develooment system run for 10 years. Then we'll see meaningful results.
 

Perth Red

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I don't know what to think about V'landys's comments on PNG. Part of me thinks he's just stringing Albanese along. The other part makes me think he's serious about this f**ked up proposal. Only time will tell. I think he won't make a decision on the 18th team until Redcliffe have had 2 or 3 seasons under their belt.

Surely now is the perfect time to add a team to Perth?

I'm surprised at how little he talks about Perth. The WA Gov is begging him for a team.

The best option for PNG and the South Pacific is an annual window at the end of the season for them to play internationals against one another. We've now got that. Build academies in these countries and provide stronger pathways to the state competitions. Let the develooment system run for 10 years. Then we'll see meaningful results.
Tbf he started todays interview talking up perth as an option.
 

The Great Dane

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I agree and I wasn't even talking about for normal life. I was simply talking about security for games and having accommodation right next to the stadium. Travelling from one side of Port Moresby to the other can be dangerous.

I think it will be really hard for PNG to attract players from Australia & New Zealand long term.
Even most Papuan players would be mad to sign with a PNG based team if they have other options.

Until there's monumental social change in PNG most players will choose to sign for significantly less at opposition and SL clubs over living in PNG.
 

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