PNG's back.

[Wb1234]

Agreed. I’ll give up my $00.75 a year just to piss the whinging Pom off!

Png is the spot that excites me the most out of all potential bids

if it ever happens it will be amazing

 

[The Great Dane]

Northern Pride, joint bid.... png colors

So it's because you dropped acid before you came up with it!?

Why would the Northern Pride and a PNG side ever merge?

Neither would have anything to gain from it.

 

[The Great Dane]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/pm-gives-clearest-backing-yet-for-a-pngbased-team-in-the-nrl/news-story/b3df91271c6b5d00775610e80e58b268

Cmon albo what’s fifteen million dollars a year to help thwart chinas growing influence in the region

It'd cost way more than $15mil a year to be sustainable (at least double not including start up funds), and it won't do anything to stop China's growth in the region in the short term.

As I say every time; let's say the government agrees to pick up the bill for the time being, who's going to pick it up when the inevitable happens and a future government refuses to renew the deal and redirects the funds?

Sooner or later the NRL will be left holding the bill, and frankly they can't really afford it ATM. Even if we assume that they will be able to afford it in the future, which is a very stupid assumption, the money would be better invested in other ways.

Png is the spot that excites me the most out of all potential bids

if it ever happens it will be amazing

Sure it'll be amazing for a season or two, but once the realities of the day-to-day running of the thing sets in it'll quickly turn into a slow motion car crash.

It'll end up as one of those things that came before their time. When PNG is ready for it it'll be amazing, but PNG isn't even close to ready for it yet.

 

[MugaB]

So it's because you dropped acid before you came up with it!?

Why would the Northern Pride and a PNG side ever merge?

Neither would have anything to gain from it.

Png having a training base in Cairns, would be easier to entice playing talent from elsewhere, if your say a Cameron Munster or another marquee player off contract, are you willing to live in port moresby, most probably not, or cairns which is a far better idea for attracting players.
PNG would bring a whole heap of raw talent, but an NRL team couldn't just have a whole team full of papuans only, plus having it a cairns based side, would make another QLD team, which im sure the Arlc would be happy with..
Cairns would also gain more from tourism, and PNG would be able to compete in the player market.

 

[The Great Dane]

Png having a training base in Cairns, would be easier to entice playing talent from elsewhere, if your say a Cameron Munster or another marquee player off contract, are you willing to live in port moresby, most probably not, or cairns which is a far better idea for attracting players.

No it wouldn't.

There isn't a single player in the NRL whom would willingly choose to have to travel to every home game, let alone fly-in fly-out of PNG every second week, over playing for any of the other NRL sides. Not unless they were being payed an enormous premium to do so at least.

I'd be willing to bet that you'd end up in a situation where most players would take a lesser contract in the SL rather than play for the PNG side, and what Aussie, Kiwi, Pommy, etc, players the PNG side could attract would generally be the absolute bottom of the barrel.

It's sad, but it is what it is.

PNG would bring a whole heap of raw talent, but an NRL team couldn't just have a whole team full of papuans only, plus having it a cairns based side, would make another QLD team, which im sure the Arlc would be happy with

No it wouldn't.

The people of Cairns, and QLD more generally, would see it for what it was.

PNG wouldn't need to merge or partner with Northern Pride to base themselves in Carins anyway, and I don't see what the Northern Pride would gain out of the relationship at all. In other words neither would have anything to gain out of the relationship.

 

[MugaB]

No it wouldn't.

There isn't a single player in the NRL whom would willingly choose to have to travel to every home game, let alone fly-in fly-out of PNG every second week, over playing for any of the other NRL sides. Not unless they were being payed an enormous premium to do so at least.

I'd be willing to bet that you'd end up in a situation where most players would take a lesser contract in the SL rather than play for the PNG side, and what Aussie, Kiwi, Pommy, etc, players the PNG side could attract would generally be the absolute bottom of the barrel.

It's sad, but it is what it is.

No it wouldn't.

The people of Cairns, and QLD more generally, would see it for what it was.

PNG wouldn't need to merge or partner with Northern Pride to base themselves in Carins anyway, and I don't see what the Northern Pride would gain out of the relationship at all. In other words neither would have anything to gain out of the relationship.

I disagree, and they wouldn't be fly in every 2nd week to png, it would be once a month,
6 games in Cairns, 6 games in Port Moresby
Not too different a situation to what St.george Illawarra Dragons do with Kogarah and Wollongong, only that it's sydney that has another 8 clubs which doesn't hurt the travel away as much for the dragons

 

[Perth Red]

1/2 a png team, not based in png, because png isn’t viable to be home to an nrl team, based in an existing nrl teams region. What could possibly go wrong with that?

 

[Iamback]

PNG ticks most of the boxes.

Probably ticks the most out of all the potential bids

 

[Perth Red]

PNG ticks most of the boxes.

Probably ticks the most out of all the potential bids

Financial sustainability?

Let’s say the Australian govt was willing to tip in $25mill a year forever more that would be needed, how do they attract/keep players when far more attractive lifestyle and safety options exist in the other 17 nrl clubs?

 

[Wb1234]

Cmon abdo 350 million for an afl stadium in tassie or the png hunters in the nrl as team 19

 

[Pneuma]

Financial sustainability?

Let’s say the Australian govt was willing to tip in $25mill a year forever more that would be needed, how do they attract/keep players when far more attractive lifestyle and safety options exist in the other 17 nrl clubs?

Chuck 100 mill a year at them! Let’s go!

 

[Pneuma]

PNG ticks most of the boxes.

Probably ticks the most out of all the potential bids

I like it!

 

[Pneuma]

1/2 a png team, not based in png, because png isn’t viable to be home to an nrl team, based in an existing nrl teams region. What could possibly go wrong with that?

Perth? Bye bye

 

[Iamback]

Financial sustainability?

Let’s say the Australian govt was willing to tip in $25mill a year forever more that would be needed, how do they attract/keep players when far more attractive lifestyle and safety options exist in the other 17 nrl clubs?

They don't need too, PNG Hunters are fine for players in 2nd tier comp. Fiji has had a few guys already passing into Roosters systems. Samoa and Tonga are untapped.

The article states the Pacific team just based in PNG. Hunters have some decent enough brands onboard.

Money won't be an issue for them along with the Grant that all sides get.

The only question mark is corporate/TV support here

 

[Iamback]

I like it!

The pacific is the future of the game it just needs resources. This will help

 

[Wb1234]

Next two teams should be nz2 then png

those are the clubs that will make the biggest difference to rugby league 10, 50, 100 years into the future

 

[RL The greatest game]

Next two teams should be nz2 then png

those are the clubs that will make the biggest difference to rugby league 10, 50, 100 years into the future

Lets not forget that another NRL club in Queensland will be dagger to the aorta to the AFL plans to expand more into Queensland

 

[Perth Red]

They don't need too, PNG Hunters are fine for players in 2nd tier comp. Fiji has had a few guys already passing into Roosters systems. Samoa and Tonga are untapped.

The article states the Pacific team just based in PNG. Hunters have some decent enough brands onboard.

Money won't be an issue for them along with the Grant that all sides get.

The only question mark is corporate/TV support here

You think a PNG team can raise $13-20mill a year in revenue? How?
They'd need to have one of the top corporate support portfolios (which would mean major improvements to corporate facilities at their stadium), is there that many rich companies in PNG beyond the mining ones?
Then in an impoverished country they'd need to be able to find enough people with enough disposable income to be spending $4-5million on memberships and merch, in stadium of less than 15k capacity.

NRL clubs have 5 sources of income:
NRL Grant
Sponsorship and Corporate game sales
Memberships/Game day takings
Merchandise
Other (pokies, external investments etc)

Most will be operating on revenue of around $30-35million this season.

Then how do they keep any PNG player from signing for one of the other 17 clubs when they show promise? If you're a PNG player are you going to choose Port Moresby or an Australian city as your preferred location to raise your family when you're earning $500k-1million a year?

If its not to be Perth I would absolutely love it if PNG was team 18, it would show the game has finally stopped being conservative and had grown some balls and confidence in itself. But its not going to happen, unless the Aus Govt plays a smoky and throws so much money at the NRL they couldn't say no.

 

[Perth Red]

The next club will be Perth. then in ten years or more probably Brisbane3, then probably NZ2.

 

[siv]

So where would a Pacifica team play its 12 home games and have its training base located?