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Canard

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Using your logic we should cancel the Olympics and never build another stadium in Australia because there's a housing crisis.

You're not interested in solving the problems you raise. You're just shit posting because you're a miserable bastard.
This is the opposite of logic.

You are like Professor Stupido of anti-Logic.
 
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Australia is not a 3rd world country where the capital city isn't connected to the rest of the country, where 40% live in poverty and where 60% of the population doesn't have access to clean drinking water.

Trying to compare the 2 shows just how little you know about PNG's economic situation.
I've read the DFAT article on PNG.

While it is true that Port Moresby isn't connected by road to any other major city, there are roads connecting it small villages and towns. That means you were wrong when you said "the capital city isn't connected to the rest of the country".

The problem is the mountainous terrain in the tropics is drenched by torrential rain and becomes prone to dangerous landslides.

85% of the population don't have access to reliable electricity.
 
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Rich australians not being Able to afford to buy another investment property hardly equates to no running water, unstable electric supply and tribal warfare!
There are scores of people in Australia's three largest cities living in tents due to the housing crisis.

Tent cities emerge alongside D’Aguilar Highway in Caboolture

Peter works at Coles but still has to live on the streets with his siblings and mother, as tent cities are popping up all over one of Queensland’s fastest growing communities, forcing families to sleep rough beside a major highway.


Concerns are growing among traders at Melbourne’s historic Queen Victoria Market over a sprawling tent city on a nearby street.

Mattresses, bedding, shopping trolleys full of food and tents are littering an abandoned building on Franklin St, next to the 145-year-old Market, which is one of 28 Victorian sites registered on the National Heritage List.

 

Canard

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Look up the definition of scores

It's a smidge less than 10 million.

It's embarrassingly stupid that you would compare Australia to PNG in terms of poverty.

And even then I don't think we should spend billions on a corrupt sporting event like the Olympics.

That money could be far better used elsewhere. Like research into curing Type 1 Diabetes.
 

Perth Red

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Most nrl clubs are generating $7-10mill in fan based revenue (Tickets, memberships, merch). Is there enough disposable income in Port Moresby (region population 700k ish) to generate that?
 

cinders7

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Most nrl clubs are generating $7-10mill in fan based revenue (Tickets, memberships, merch). Is there enough disposable income in Port Moresby (region population 700k ish) to generate that?
If the PNG team comes in it won't be judged by the same metrics as the other clubs.

It has the backing of two national governments and there are more people in PNG than there are in New Zealand, Fiji, Samoa and Tonga combined.

Directly accessing that talent pool could change the game more than the Polynesian demographic shift. The timing couldn't be better as RL/RU/AFL are all seeing declining participation in traditional areas.

You shouldn't see it as a threat to bids from Perth or NZ2, it'll complement them.
 
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And here we go again….
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He has a point.

Most nrl clubs are generating $7-10mill in fan based revenue (Tickets, memberships, merch). Is there enough disposable income in Port Moresby (region population 700k ish) to generate that?

A PNG club doesn't need to worry about ticketing, membership, merchandise, sponsorship and corporate when it is funded by the Aus and PNG Gov.

You can argue it's a waste of money and destined to fail when the funding dries up.

If we're going to judge the 18th licence by revenue from football operations then why focus on what the smallest clubs generate?

Cowboys generated $24m from football operations in 2023, despite not making the finals.

Does that mean a Perth-based club needs to generate $24m a year from football operations to gain a licence?

Perth will need a lot of money to compete with the bigger clubs in a hostile market.
 

Canard

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The backing of the PNG govt is nothing.

They have no money and are corrupt beyond all western standards.
 
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If people know it will fail the moment govt funding ends, what is the actual point of the team?

One benefit is developing junior pathways that will help lift some talented Papuan athletes out of poverty.

I'm not convinced the proposal will go ahead, TBH. But if it does then it has the potential to fast tract the development of talent in PNG.
 

Maximus

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One benefit is developing junior pathways that will help lift some talented Papuan athletes out of poverty.

I'm not convinced the proposal will go ahead, TBH. But if it does then it has the potential to fast tract the development of talent in PNG.

Are these junior pathways going to magically continue when they have no money again?
 

Canard

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I think people think that a few development officers in schools will suddenly create junior pathways.

It would take huge resources that would far outstrip that which is spent on education as a whole now.

Not to mention having grounds, training facilities, officials etc.

It's Decades of work, that could all crumble the moment funding dries up.

It's a silly brain fart of an idea, that only morons support.
 

Perth Red

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He has a point.



A PNG club doesn't need to worry about ticketing, membership, merchandise, sponsorship and corporate when it is funded by the Aus and PNG Gov.

You can argue it's a waste of money and destined to fail when the funding dries up.

If we're going to judge the 18th licence by revenue from football operations then why focus on what the smallest clubs generate?

Cowboys generated $24m from football operations in 2023, despite not making the finals.

Does that mean a Perth-based club needs to generate $24m a year from football operations to gain a licence?

Perth will need a lot of money to compete with the bigger clubs in a hostile market.
Cowboys are doing very well, probably top 5 in fc revenue.
perth will need to generate what the avg of other clubs are, around $15mill, but hopefully more so they can invest in the local game more

yes png won’t need to whilst the gravy train flows, but when it dries up are we really going to be happy that all that investment and years of a license will be wasted?
 
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Cowboys are doing very well, probably top 5 in fc revenue.
perth will need to generate what the avg of other clubs are, around $15mill, but hopefully more so they can invest in the local game more

yes png won’t need to whilst the gravy train flows, but when it dries up are we really going to be happy that all that investment and years of a license will be wasted?
A Perth-based NRL clhb will need to generate significantly more revenue than a mid-sized club because it will have to invest heavily on juniors.


In 2019, the last full rugby league calendar year before COVID-19 interrupted the development programs, the Panthers spent $17.06 million on its football programs, from the Harold Matthews right through to the NRL.

For players from the club’s Harold Matthews, SG Ball, Jersey Flegg, NSW Cup, Tarsha Gale, NRL and development squads, the Panthers spent a combined:

  • $12.5 million on wages
  • $1.1 million on medical costs and health fund premiums
  • $450,000 on clothing
  • $236,000 on travel costs
  • $260,000 on housing allowances
  • $220,000 on meals and entertainment
  • $180,000 on tertiary education allowances

The Panthers lost $50 million over a decade trying to sustain the club’s rugby league program. However, in recent years, as home-grown talents such as Nathan Cleary, Jarome Luai and Stephen Crichton have come through the grades, the tide has turned.


A Perth-based club will spend far more on travel and accommodation for its junior teams. You're probably looking at a couple of million flying U16s, U18s, U20s and NSW Cup players to and from Sydney.

The NRLWA doesn't have the same callibre of juniors within its junior leagues as the likes of Auckland, Penrith and Brisbane.

If a Perth-based team operates on a similar budget to the Wests Tigers then it will be anchored to the bottom of the table.
 

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