aqua_duck said:Manny Pacquaio is a decent fighter in another dvision, a legit world champ, Mundine lost to a journeyman in Manny Siaca
Darth Bobo said:He doesnt consider fighting Green even though most of Australia would say this would be the fight they would like to see the most.
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What does one hope to gain from a post like this? Indeed, what do you all hope to gain from your hatred of Mundine? Perhaps through sheer dumb persistence you hope Mundine will change his ways? I'll wager Mundine is more persistent than all of you - its been 8 years since his famous "Daley is running on old legs" comment and Choc is showing no signs of toning down his style.Darth Bobo said:Agreed, all those people who want to talk up his "success" in boxing needs to be reminded that he went after the weakest champion in the weakest division, Sven Ottke, and got KNOCK OUT COLD.
He then went on to fight for the SECONDAY WBA title, the same division that Ottke was the champion in. Ever heard the saying that you have to beat the man to be the man? He never beat the man.
Now after winning the seconday title in a very ordinary performance by both fighters he goes on to meet Manny Pacquaio (sp?) and lost on a decision. Manny then goes on to get smashed easily inside the distance by Kessler and then instead of going for a re-match with Kessler he goes after Mundane again. This was because he knew he didnt have what it takes to beat Kessler and neither does Mundane. So what is Mundane doing now? Preparing for his loss against Kessler by saying that he is doing exactly what he "sung" that he would NEVER DO in that song with the beat box kid. Ain't no way Im going back to league blah, blah, blah.
He doesnt consider fighting Green even though most of Australia would say this would be the fight they would like to see the most.
Mundane is a tool of the highest order so comparing him with a bloke like Preston is insulting to Preston. Hollywood and Zorba should be forced to contact Preston and apologise.
Godz Illa said:What does one hope to gain from a post like this? Indeed, what do you all hope to gain from your hatred of Mundine? Perhaps through sheer dumb persistence you hope Mundine will change his ways? I'll wager Mundine is more persistent than all of you - its been 8 years since his famous "Daley is running on old legs" comment and Choc is showing no signs of toning down his style.Darth Bobo said:Agreed, all those people who want to talk up his "success" in boxing needs to be reminded that he went after the weakest champion in the weakest division, Sven Ottke, and got KNOCK OUT COLD.
He then went on to fight for the SECONDAY WBA title, the same division that Ottke was the champion in. Ever heard the saying that you have to beat the man to be the man? He never beat the man.
Now after winning the seconday title in a very ordinary performance by both fighters he goes on to meet Manny Pacquaio (sp?) and lost on a decision. Manny then goes on to get smashed easily inside the distance by Kessler and then instead of going for a re-match with Kessler he goes after Mundane again. This was because he knew he didnt have what it takes to beat Kessler and neither does Mundane. So what is Mundane doing now? Preparing for his loss against Kessler by saying that he is doing exactly what he "sung" that he would NEVER DO in that song with the beat box kid. Ain't no way Im going back to league blah, blah, blah.
He doesnt consider fighting Green even though most of Australia would say this would be the fight they would like to see the most.
Mundane is a tool of the highest order so comparing him with a bloke like Preston is insulting to Preston. Hollywood and Zorba should be forced to contact Preston and apologise.
You're quick to dismiss his standing within boxing, but his achievements are remarkable - they deserve to be acknowledged and applauded. Here is an individual who has explored his talent to its depth, he has tested himself at the highest level of not one but two sports and excelled in both.
He was driven out of rugby league - there can be no doubt about that. Being the constant target of a petty Sydney media, and being consistently snubbed for rep duty will disenchant even the most enchanting league player. He turned to boxing because it suited his talents as an athlete, and suited his outspoken braggadoccio personality - or so he thought. It seems the boxing community similarly have failed to embrace him - the same sport that boasts the endearing Mike Tyson, whose former trainer and friend Jeff Fenech is among Mundine's most vehement boxing critics.
I say come back to the greatest game of all Choc. The boxing public are no less small-minded than the league public, but at least here you dont often cop blows to the head.
btw I'm a Preston fan. But I'd take Choc out of sheer dumb persistence.
Facts never were the strong point of Mundine haters.Pensacola Q.C said:How would he come back to league? Your team doesn't want him back...and no other team wants him either. Maybe he could win a premiership....for the Jets!
Warriors go into battle for Mundine
By Brad Walter and Steve Mascord
May 2, 2005
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Warriors players yesterday tried to convince Anthony Mundine of the benefits of moving to Auckland, as Sydney Roosters boss Nick Politis confirmed the club was still interested in signing the former world boxing champion.
Mundine, still without a date for his rescheduled WBA super-middleweight title fight with Mikkel Kessler, is unable to finalise a deal for his return to the NRL, as he cannot confirm his availability. But several clubs remain interested.
Among them are St George Illawarra, whose coach Nathan Brown left a voice-mail message for Mundine last Thursday and is waiting for a call back.
Mundine, who arrived back in Sydney late last night after three days in Auckland, is expected to meet Brown this week.
While in Auckland, Mundine's father, Tony, said the Roosters were favourites for his son's signature, but Politis said he wanted to learn more about Mundine's plans to combine football and boxing, and would talk to coach Ricky Stuart about the former NSW Origin representative.
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Advertisement"We're showing some interest but at this stage we haven't got all of the facts," Politis said.
"It's hard because we could be coming down to him playing only seven or eight weeks. Ricky or any coach would need to sit down and talk to him. He obviously wants to play first grade, he's not coming to play reserve grade, so there's no point him coming to a club if the coach hasn't got confidence he could do that."
Warriors coach Tony Kemp believes Mundine's unavailability until late in the season would not be a problem, but the club has not yet held formal negotiations with him. Instead, they flew him to Auckland as a guest at Friday night's Australasian heavyweight title bout between Shane Cameron and Colin Wilson and then hosted Mundine, his father, and manager Khoder Nasser in a private box at Ericsson Stadium for yesterday's match against Penrith.
With club owner Eric Watson also boasting a fledgling boxing stable headed by Cameron, the Warriors are as interested in Mundine for his pugilistic skills as his football ability.
"I know them very well. Khoder Nasser and the Mundine team are shrewd businessmen," Warriors chief executive Mick Watson said.
"I don't believe there will be a negotiation process. I think they'll pick the club they want to go to. They'll strongly dominate terms and if you want to play ball, then you'll be able to speak to them. We'll just see how it goes."
Asked whether he thought Mundine would return to league, Watson said: "I don't know. If he wanted to pick up a cricket bat he'd probably play for Australia in that as well."
Warriors assistant coach Kevin Campion, a close friend of Mundine's from their playing days at St George, also holds a high opinion of "the Man's" athletic ability and was among those to speak with him in Auckland.
Captain Steve Price and veteran back-rower Monty Betham, whose father was a former boxer, also spoke in glowing terms about the Warriors.
Price said: "It's going to be very hard for him to leave St George. He was born in red and white But he's a team man and a family man and those factors may point to him coming here because it's a great lifestyle, you're away from Sydney and the Warriors are a very talented football team."
Kemp said he had no doubt Mundine would be in demand and predicted his comeback would succeed. "You've got teams out there who might be struggling in that position, who know they can get a quick fix," Kemp said.
"I think if he does come back, he is an athlete who would just fit back into the game and be a very good asset to any club in the NRL."
Godz Illa said:What does one hope to gain from a post like this? Indeed, what do you all hope to gain from your hatred of Mundine? Perhaps through sheer dumb persistence you hope Mundine will change his ways? I'll wager Mundine is more persistent than all of you - its been 8 years since his famous "Daley is running on old legs" comment and Choc is showing no signs of toning down his style.Darth Bobo said:Agreed, all those people who want to talk up his "success" in boxing needs to be reminded that he went after the weakest champion in the weakest division, Sven Ottke, and got KNOCK OUT COLD.
He then went on to fight for the SECONDAY WBA title, the same division that Ottke was the champion in. Ever heard the saying that you have to beat the man to be the man? He never beat the man.
Now after winning the seconday title in a very ordinary performance by both fighters he goes on to meet Manny Pacquaio (sp?) and lost on a decision. Manny then goes on to get smashed easily inside the distance by Kessler and then instead of going for a re-match with Kessler he goes after Mundane again. This was because he knew he didnt have what it takes to beat Kessler and neither does Mundane. So what is Mundane doing now? Preparing for his loss against Kessler by saying that he is doing exactly what he "sung" that he would NEVER DO in that song with the beat box kid. Ain't no way Im going back to league blah, blah, blah.
He doesnt consider fighting Green even though most of Australia would say this would be the fight they would like to see the most.
Mundane is a tool of the highest order so comparing him with a bloke like Preston is insulting to Preston. Hollywood and Zorba should be forced to contact Preston and apologise.
You're quick to dismiss his standing within boxing, but his achievements are remarkable - they deserve to be acknowledged and applauded. Here is an individual who has explored his talent to its depth, he has tested himself at the highest level of not one but two sports and excelled in both.
He was driven out of rugby league - there can be no doubt about that. Being the constant target of a petty Sydney media, and being consistently snubbed for rep duty will disenchant even the most enchanting league player. He turned to boxing because it suited his talents as an athlete, and suited his outspoken braggadoccio personality - or so he thought. It seems the boxing community similarly have failed to embrace him - the same sport that boasts the endearing Mike Tyson, whose former trainer and friend Jeff Fenech is among Mundine's most vehement boxing critics.
I say come back to the greatest game of all Choc. The boxing public are no less small-minded than the league public, but at least here you dont often cop blows to the head.
btw I'm a Preston fan. But I'd take Choc out of sheer dumb persistence.
Darth Bobo said:Godz Illa said:What does one hope to gain from a post like this? Indeed, what do you all hope to gain from your hatred of Mundine? Perhaps through sheer dumb persistence you hope Mundine will change his ways? I'll wager Mundine is more persistent than all of you - its been 8 years since his famous "Daley is running on old legs" comment and Choc is showing no signs of toning down his style.Darth Bobo said:Agreed, all those people who want to talk up his "success" in boxing needs to be reminded that he went after the weakest champion in the weakest division, Sven Ottke, and got KNOCK OUT COLD.
He then went on to fight for the SECONDAY WBA title, the same division that Ottke was the champion in. Ever heard the saying that you have to beat the man to be the man? He never beat the man.
Now after winning the seconday title in a very ordinary performance by both fighters he goes on to meet Manny Pacquaio (sp?) and lost on a decision. Manny then goes on to get smashed easily inside the distance by Kessler and then instead of going for a re-match with Kessler he goes after Mundane again. This was because he knew he didnt have what it takes to beat Kessler and neither does Mundane. So what is Mundane doing now? Preparing for his loss against Kessler by saying that he is doing exactly what he "sung" that he would NEVER DO in that song with the beat box kid. Ain't no way Im going back to league blah, blah, blah.
He doesnt consider fighting Green even though most of Australia would say this would be the fight they would like to see the most.
Mundane is a tool of the highest order so comparing him with a bloke like Preston is insulting to Preston. Hollywood and Zorba should be forced to contact Preston and apologise.
You're quick to dismiss his standing within boxing, but his achievements are remarkable - they deserve to be acknowledged and applauded. Here is an individual who has explored his talent to its depth, he has tested himself at the highest level of not one but two sports and excelled in both.
He was driven out of rugby league - there can be no doubt about that. Being the constant target of a petty Sydney media, and being consistently snubbed for rep duty will disenchant even the most enchanting league player. He turned to boxing because it suited his talents as an athlete, and suited his outspoken braggadoccio personality - or so he thought. It seems the boxing community similarly have failed to embrace him - the same sport that boasts the endearing Mike Tyson, whose former trainer and friend Jeff Fenech is among Mundine's most vehement boxing critics.
I say come back to the greatest game of all Choc. The boxing public are no less small-minded than the league public, but at least here you dont often cop blows to the head.
btw I'm a Preston fan. But I'd take Choc out of sheer dumb persistence.
So the recurring theme here is that it's not Mundane's fault but everybody else's? I think the fact that the boxing community has turned away from him and yet still embraces Mike Tyson says more about what an a*sehole Mundane is. He is WORSE than Tyson. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sheer dumb persistance seems like an understatement to me mate.
This is not far removed from the truth. I am loath to get all psychoanalytical, but your hatred of Mundine is based less on The Man himself, and more on your own fears, paranoia and insecurities.Darth Bobo said:So the recurring theme here is that it's not Mundane's fault but everybody else's? I think the fact that the boxing community has turned away from him