QLD doesn't need another team

[Vlad59]

The current administration haven't created a new club, they've handed a top tier license to an existing state-competition club.

Neither have they created a raft of expansion opportunities - it's more a case of interested locations/syndicates realizing that 17 teams is inefficient & unsustainable (as any odd number of teams is) and all jockeying for the inevitable 18th spot.

We’ll just disagree then. I reckon they’ve done a great job choosing the dolphins (which should have happened over a decade ago) and cleverly encouraging a raft of new opportunities in a competitive market. To that extend they’ve shat all over their rivals.

 

[Wb1234]

Since the disaster of 1998 we've had two new clubs joining the comp, both in RL heartland. It’s hardly expansion at all in the last 26 years.

Three clubs

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I think AFL is relevant to expansion discussions, in so far as looking at what lessons the NRL can learn (good and bad) from their experience, and how they created & deployed their expansion strategy.

To ignore other sports' experiences (not just AFL) is to risk making the same errors as they did - or conversely not taking the positive, growth-minded steps they did, which only just sets back the NRL.

The ARLC and AFLC run under a different model. There's no way the NRL clubs, QRL and NSWRL will agree to a variable funding scheme that benefits expansion clubs in Adelaide and Perth.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Listening to the same people argue that expansion ain't expansion unless it involves new teams in Adelaide and Perth is tiresome.

 

[oval]

Adelaide and Perth would be manufactured teams like Melbourne, but in all likelihood much less successful.

Just like in Melbourne, the vast majority of supporters and players would be imports from the eastern states, New Zealand, the Pacific Islands, and Northern England.

Melbourne have been in the comp for 26 years and how many NRL players have actually come from Victoria? Not fckn many. There's no reason to believe Adelaide and Perth, with their smaller populations, would be any different.

So what's the actual point of expanding to cities largely indifferent to rugby league? In 26 years, how has Melbourne benefited the NRL? There are no waves of Victorian juniors coming up through the ranks. Born and bred Victorians are not flocking to the games.

Melbourne been successful on the field due to Bellamy, money pumped in from News Ltd, and the odd bit of cheating. If Adelaide or Perth were admitted to the NRL, and didn't start winning comps, they'd die off. Again.

Focus on the heartlands first.
Bring back the Newtown Jets and the North Sydney Bears. Put a team on the Central Coast. A couple more from QLD and NZ. Maybe PNG. At least these places have a rugby league soul.

 

[The Great Dane]

We’ll just disagree then. I reckon they’ve done a great job choosing the dolphins (which should have happened over a decade ago) and cleverly encouraging a raft of new opportunities in a competitive market. To that extend they’ve shat all over their rivals.

All the locations bidding now have been bidding for over decade or have had previous bids in the past.

Bears, Brisbane, Perth, PNG, NZ, it's all the usual suspects without a single genuine new opportunity presenting itself in over a decade at this point. More bids have dropped away in that time than ones from new markets have presented themselves, like the Central Coast, Central Queensland, and the Brothers Confraternity weird gypsy club idea for example.

 

[The Great Dane]

Listening to the same people argue that expansion ain't expansion unless it involves new teams in Adelaide and Perth is tiresome.

Not half as tiresome as your incessant whining that the NRL isn't the BRL.

 

[The Great Dane]

Adelaide and Perth would be manufactured teams like Melbourne, but in all likelihood much less successful.

Just like in Melbourne, the vast majority of supporters and players would be imports from the eastern states, New Zealand, the Pacific Islands, and Northern England.

Melbourne have been in the comp for 26 years and how many NRL players have actually come from Victoria? Not fckn many. There's no reason to believe Adelaide and Perth, with their smaller populations, would be any different.

So what's the actual point of expanding to cities largely indifferent to rugby league? In 26 years, how has Melbourne benefited the NRL? There are no waves of Victorian juniors coming up through the ranks. Born and bred Victorians are not flocking to the games.

Melbourne been successful on the field due to Bellamy, money pumped in from News Ltd, and the odd bit of cheating. If Adelaide or Perth were admitted to the NRL, and didn't start winning comps, they'd die off. Again.

Focus on the heartlands first.
Bring back the Newtown Jets and the North Sydney Bears. Put a team on the Central Coast. A couple more from QLD and NZ. Maybe PNG. At least these places have a rugby league soul.

Who's alt account do we reckon this one is?

 

[oval]

Who's alt account do we reckon this one is?

I'm Bunniesman.

 

[The Great Dane]

I'm Bunniesman.

If true it's safe to ignore everything you have to say then.

 

[oval]

If true it's safe to ignore everything you have to say then.

Nah Bunniesman is a legend. But yeah feel free to ignore me - I'm a one eyed Manly supporter since primary school, and my opinions may not match yours.

Re. Alt account - I don't have one. Been on this forum longer than you have, but you seem to have more time on your hands to post. I was on Reddit for a while but then got booted for expressing opinions similar to what I posted above, by people similar to you.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

So that other dross has been more successful with expansion than us since 1998?

2 absolute basketcases that they have to prop up and a proposed team in a fumbleball state.

That's great expansion idiots.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Adelaide and Perth would be manufactured teams like Melbourne, but in all likelihood much less successful.

Just like in Melbourne, the vast majority of supporters and players would be imports from the eastern states, New Zealand, the Pacific Islands, and Northern England.

Melbourne have been in the comp for 26 years and how many NRL players have actually come from Victoria? Not fckn many. There's no reason to believe Adelaide and Perth, with their smaller populations, would be any different.

So what's the actual point of expanding to cities largely indifferent to rugby league? In 26 years, how has Melbourne benefited the NRL? There are no waves of Victorian juniors coming up through the ranks. Born and bred Victorians are not flocking to the games.

Melbourne been successful on the field due to Bellamy, money pumped in from News Ltd, and the odd bit of cheating. If Adelaide or Perth were admitted to the NRL, and didn't start winning comps, they'd die off. Again.

Focus on the heartlands first.
Bring back the Newtown Jets and the North Sydney Bears. Put a team on the Central Coast. A couple more from QLD and NZ. Maybe PNG. At least these places have a rugby league soul.

I was surprised to learn that the percentage of the population "participating" in fumbleball was higher in Adelaide and Perth than in Melbourne.

I'd imagine much of this is due to Melbourne being more multicultural. However, it is proof that fumbleball is embedded in Adelaide's and Perth's culture to a degree that makes it very difficult for RL to carve out a sustainable niche.

A Perth-based team might have a chance of succeeding on the back of interstate immigration from Queensland and NSW over the last 25 years, but it will always struggle for media coverage in a parochial fumbleball market.

We cannot expect the Queenslanders and New South Welshmen who've relocated to Perth to become full season ticketed members of a Perth-based club. They might only turn up to watch their favourite team play.

Adelaide has no chance of getting one of the next three licences.

 

[Canard]

Focus on the heartlands first.
Bring back the Newtown Jets and the North Sydney Bears. Put a team on the Central Coast. A couple more from QLD and NZ. Maybe PNG. At least these places have a rugby league soul.

2 more teams in Sydney and 3 more total in NSW.

What a vision for Rugby League.

It's like people just ignore the fact that Sydney average crowds are complete dogshit, by any metric.

 

[mongoose]

2 more teams in Sydney and 3 more total in NSW.

What a vision for Rugby League.

It's like people just ignore the fact that Sydney average crowds are complete dogshit, by any metric.

yep, but when the Storm or Titans crowd dips under 12k... kick em out, no fans!! Dragons, one of the most famous Rugby League clubs in the world can average 9k at their shit heap ground in Kogarah... well that's just rugba leeg!

 

[Colk]

Adelaide and Perth would be manufactured teams like Melbourne, but in all likelihood much less successful.

Just like in Melbourne, the vast majority of supporters and players would be imports from the eastern states, New Zealand, the Pacific Islands, and Northern England.

Melbourne have been in the comp for 26 years and how many NRL players have actually come from Victoria? Not fckn many. There's no reason to believe Adelaide and Perth, with their smaller populations, would be any different.

So what's the actual point of expanding to cities largely indifferent to rugby league? In 26 years, how has Melbourne benefited the NRL? There are no waves of Victorian juniors coming up through the ranks. Born and bred Victorians are not flocking to the games.

Melbourne been successful on the field due to Bellamy, money pumped in from News Ltd, and the odd bit of cheating. If Adelaide or Perth were admitted to the NRL, and didn't start winning comps, they'd die off. Again.

Focus on the heartlands first.
Bring back the Newtown Jets and the North Sydney Bears. Put a team on the Central Coast. A couple more from QLD and NZ. Maybe PNG. At least these places have a rugby league soul.

Haha comedy gold

 

[Colk]

Listening to the same people argue that expansion ain't expansion unless it involves new teams in Adelaide and Perth is tiresome.

Jesus Christ do you own a mirror mate? F*** me tell us again how good Logan is or that Brisbane needs another side or maybe argue with people about places you’ve never been to.

The whole thread is tiresome. We should lock it until actual expansion news comes through.

 

[Wb1234]

Not half as tiresome as your incessant whining that the NRL isn't the BRL.

Super league tried to whitewash away the games roots

your hero join robot and was the architect of failure

now the game has reconnected with its roots it’s booming again

 

[Wb1234]

Jesus Christ do you own a mirror mate? F*** me tell us again how good Logan is or that Brisbane needs another side or maybe argue with people about places you’ve never been to.

The whole thread is tiresome. We should lock it until actual expansion news comes through.

Box of tissues for colky

 

[Colk]

Box of tissues for colky

Box of tissues for your mate too. The amount of hypocrisy on here is incredible