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Wb1234

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In a sentimental and historic revival after a 22-year hiatus, an old-fashioned Australian Kangaroo tour to contest the Ashes in England is being planned for the end of next season.

It would resurrect the once-famous Kangaroo tour, which first took place in 1908-09.

The major development comes as South Africa emerges as a shock contender to host the 2030 rugby league World Cup.

The ARL Commission and England’s RFL are considering the tour of England after 2025 for the men’s Kangaroos and women’s Jillaroos.

It is likely the tour would comprise three Tests against England without any additional games against club sides due to player welfare.

England would then travel to Australia and Papua New Guinea the following year for rugby league’s World Cup. Tonga toured England last year with Samoa currently in Britain.

The Kangaroo tour would prevent Australia contesting the 2025 Pacific Championships.

A packed NRL season coupled with England’s decision to move its Super League season to summer – running simultaneously with the NRL – all but stopped Kangaroo tours, the last being a six-game journey in 2003.

An Ashes series in Britain involving the star-studded Australians would be a financial boon for English rugby league.

The tour hasn’t been confirmed and planning remains in the preliminary stages although the International Rugby League is aware of the Kangaroos’ desire to tour England.

Australia’s last full tour, where the squad played midweek club sides, was back in 1994 when current Kangaroos coach Mal Meninga was captain.

Arguably the most famous Kangaroo tour was coach Frank Stanton’s 1982 Invincibles, which surged through England and France unbeaten, a feat matched by Bob Fulton’s squad in 1990.

Next year’s proposed tour would see Australia play England, not Great Britain.

Australia will definitely play England after next season but the location is still being finalised although England is more than likely.

The South African 2030 World Cup bid has pushed past an expression-of-interest vetting process and been granted formal approval to lodge a full application.

South Africa’s Government has expressed a desire for more international sporting events with the country having previously competed at rugby league World Cups.

The International Rugby League board will meet in November to canvas all applications with a final decision on the winning bid to be announced this coming February.

It is understood all bids have to demonstrate Government support with IRL chairman Troy Grant preferring not to comment.

Just last week, Meninga said Test matches should be taken to South Africa, Asia and America to help promote international rugby league.

“We should take international footy to other nations, like America or Asia; take our game to South Africa, it used to be played there. They understand rugby union but I think rugby league would get a following,” Meninga said.

Meninga is the only player to make four Kangaroo tours to England – 1982, ’86, ’90 and ’94. Australia and Papua New Guinea will host the 2026 World Cup.
 

Jim from Oz

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"Arguably the most famous Kangaroo tour was coach Frank Stanton’s 1982 Invincibles, which surged through England and France unbeaten, a feat matched by Bob Fulton’s squad in 1990."

ERROR !

The 1990 side lost 1st test v GB at Wembley. (I was there!)

It was the 1986 Kangaroo side that matched the 1982 side by not losing a single match.

Regards
International RL pedant
 

Wb1234

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"Arguably the most famous Kangaroo tour was coach Frank Stanton’s 1982 Invincibles, which surged through England and France unbeaten, a feat matched by Bob Fulton’s squad in 1990."

ERROR !

The 1990 side lost 1st test v GB at Wembley. (I was there!)

It was the 1986 Kangaroo side that matched the 1982 side by not losing a single match.

Regards
International RL pedant

Did you back up for this one ?
 

Jim from Oz

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I sure did … a few friends and I travelled up to Manchester from London for it.

I was standing about 10 metres from where Mal Meninga scored that last-minute try !

Happy days! :)
 

Wb1234

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I sure did … a few friends and I travelled up to Manchester from London for it.

I was standing about 10 metres from where Mal Meninga scored that last-minute try !

Happy days! :)
Wow would’ve loved to have been there live

I was clubbing in the cross and I told my mates I wanna go home and watch this game

After Stuart threw the intercept earlier it was so epic
 

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They should go back to full ashes tours with most of the English clubs getting a game against Australia then a test series in France
Personally, not a fan of international teams playing club sides. Add France or Wales or Ireland games, sweet as. But I understand, until they get both the NRL and especially Super League competitions shortened, then player welfare will be a challenge to navigate and am completely ok with just a 3 test series under the circumstances.
 

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Hopefully not Leeds. Elland Road is a dump, and Headingley is too small. If St James' Park in Newcastle could draw 44,000 for England v Samoa, then surely England v Australia can get the same or better.
 

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Should be
London
Manchester
Newcastle
The ARL need to put time, money and effort to market this and ensure sellouts at all grounds. Build up the rivalry through the UK media. Anything else would be a failure from them.

Absolutely massive untapped potential for these fixtures, probably the greatest ROI with the quickest payoff time in our sport right now. Get it right and the next series draws 10-20k travelling English fans, and blows up in Australia as well. Could be 3-5 games of 2 million+ TV audience nationally, if marketed well.
 

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But probably
London
Leeds
Manchester
Elland rd
The ARL need to put time, money and effort to market this and ensure sellouts at all grounds. Build up the rivalry through the UK media. Anything else would be a failure from them.

Absolutely massive untapped potential for these fixtures, probably the greatest ROI with the quickest payoff time in our sport right now. Get it right and the next series draws 10-20k travelling English fans, and blows up in Australia as well. Could be 3-5 games of 2 million+ TV audience nationally, if marketed well.
How’s the arl going to market an English event ?
 

nko11

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How’s the arl going to market an English event ?
Work hand in hand with the RFL through Traditional and Social Media to build it up, think along the lines of getting Cleary to announce it whilst he's over there. Bonus points if he stirs the pot a little bit and creates some headlines. Give it an origin build up through the media. Market it early to Australian fans to travel over. Spend a bit of money marketing it over there too.

Yes it's an English event, but has massive future potential for ARL revenues. Apparently the Lions tour in Union next year is worth $300m. Whether or not that's accurate, I think it's possible to build it into something as big. We actually have proper market penetration in Australia. And the wider English market has shown it will get around an event.
 

Matt_CBY

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There is actually excitement for this on this website. Must be because of the age demographics on forum pages.
 

Wb1234

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There is actually excitement for this on this website. Must be because of the age demographics on forum pages.
I’ll watch it but Australia v England doesn’t interest me that much

Tonga v Samoa would be my highlight

Then nz v Tonga

Then aus v nz

PNG were watchable in their games they could end up a good footy side
 

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There were 3000 of you last night in Mazicou!
This Sunday morning, we take this opportunity to thank you all for your presence at the stadium last night, despite this last minute twist of fate.
We are counting on you on the 23rd again in Mazicou.
Go Albi! Come on Tigers!



Why do we keep ignoring France ?
 

England87

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Toulouse in Super League for five years would quite literally solves 99% of International Rugby Leagues problems.

30-40 Full time professionals working under both club and a high performance unit similar to Argentina in Rugby

When marketed *CORRECTLY* they can get 15k to cities like Avignon, Toulouse and Perpignan.

The only second tier Northern Hemisphere nation that could host minor tours and tournaments.
 
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