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Raider_69

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Raw is live tonight from the Von Braun Center in Huntsville, Alabama.

Quarter Hour 1

Jim Ross and Jerry “The King” Lawler welcomed viewers to the show as General Manager Eric Bischoff headed down the ramp carrying the World Heavyweight Title Belt. He noted that he’d come back from vacation to a vacated World Heavyweight Championship and a new Women’s Title holder. He was not pleased.

Bischoff began to recap the history of the disputed title until Triple H rudely interrupted him. Due to the special circumstances, Triple H felt that the title should revert to him. Of course, Chris Benoit and Edge chimed in with their thoughts on the subject. They came to blows backstage and had to be pulled apart.

Bischoff decided if they wanted to fight so bad, they could do it in the ring tonight.

(Commercial break)

(1) Randy Orton pinned Edge. Loud “You Tapped Out” chant from the crowd, which angered Edge and brought a smile to Orton’s face. Good even action…until the “You Suck” chant started. Poor Edge. Double drop kicks, which was a good visual. Orton clotheslined Edge to the outside. But first…

(Another commercial break.)

Quarter Hour 2

Back from the break, Orton was slamming Edge into the ring steps. Back in the ring, Orton had Edge in a submission hold. The momentum turned in favor of Edge, and Orton found himself on the outside. As Orton tried to climb back into the ring, Edge speared him right into the security wall. Edge got Orton back into the ring and went for a pin. Orton got a foot on the rope, and Edge grew frustrated. Edge had Orton tied up in a modified sleeper and Orton tried to battle his way out of it. He finally made it to his feet, and the two began to trade punches. They collided in mid-ring and the ref started counting them out. Both got to their feet and Edge came off the top turnbuckle. Orton met him in mid-air with a drop kick. They traded right hands again. Orton got a near fall. Then Edge got a near fall. Edge with another near fall off a backslide. Orton with a power slam on Edge. Orton climbed to the top turnbuckle and came off with an attempted crossbody. Edge moved in time, then set up a spear. Orton moved and Edge crashed into the ring post. Orton with the RKO and the winning pin

In the dressing room, Ric Flair was scheming with Triple H. Batista walked up and told Triple to go out and dominate. That seemed to please Triple H, but Batista may have had something else in mind.

(Commercial break)

Clips aired of the Macon, Georgia, house show. Come to our house shows…please.

Christy and assorted Diva Search losers were in the ring shooting tee shirts into the crowd. (At least she’s doing something for that quarter of a million dollars.)

Suddenly, Gene Snitsky jumped into the ring and scared the divas. He said he loved to have fun, and he planned to have some fun with them. (He certainly is a smooth talker.) He wanted to dance, then grabbed Christy around the neck. He told her he wasn’t having fun unless someone was suffering.

Lita appeared at the top of the ramp. She said picking on women must make him feel like a big man. She said her husband, Kane, would be coming back, and when he does, Kane would “beat the holy hell” out of the Big Snit.

That did it. He dropped Christy and ran after Lita. The dreaded Wall of Fire stopped him as Lita ran back stage.

(Commercial break)

Quarter Hour 4

Triple H’s movie, “Blade Trinity,” opened last week. Clips aired of himself walking the red carpet at the premiere.

Candace was putting makeup on Christian as he complained to Tyson Tomko about the stupid sequined costume he was forced to wear. He criticized Candice’s eye shadow, then blew her off. He ran into Eugene, who recognized him right away as Captain Charisma.

Mick Foley walked up and Eugene went off with his hero, but not before stealing Foley’s cheap pop by mentioning Bobby Eaton, who’s from right here in Huntsville, Alabama.

Bischoff was in his office, officially signing Simon Dean to a contract, when Benoit barged in to demand a Triple Threat Rematch tonight.

(Commercial break)

(2) Batista & Triple H (w/Ric Flair) vs. Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho. Benoit was even more intense than usual as he and Triple H started things off. Batista and Jericho tagged in, Triple H tagged in. Jericho turned the tables on Triple H until he ran into Triple H’s high knee.

Quarter Hour 5

Batista tagged back in and Irish whipped Jericho into the corner. A loud “Y2J” chant started as Batista put him in a submission hold.

J.R. said Mick Foley would be making an important announcement tonight.

Batista used the tag rope to choke Jericho. Triple H tagged in as J.R. said referee Jack Doan may be filing a lawsuit because of the chair shot he took last week. It had required several staples to close.

Flair got bumped on the outside and peeled of his suit jacket and climbed into the ring in a rage. Triple H was trying to calm him down as the show went to a…

(Commercial break)

Benoit with a series of suplexes, then he headed to the corner, but had to knock Batista and Flair out of his way. Benoit finally came off the top turnbuckle, but Triple H moved out of the way. Batista with a power slam on Benoit, then he Irish whipped him once again.

Triple H tripped when he went to fling Benoit across the ring, but went for a cover anyway. When that didn’t work, he began to stretch Benoit, even using Batista as leverage.

Batista and Jericho tagged in. Chop block on Batista and Jericho tried to put him in the Walls. Roll-up and near fall by Jericho. Batista went for a power bomb, but Jericho with an inzuigiri and a springboard dropkick. Benoit with a diving head butt on Batista, then Benoit put him in the sharpshooter. Triple H interfered, so Benoit put him in the crossface. Batista pulled Benoit off and gave him a spinebuster for the win.

(Commercial break)

Quarter Hour 6

Mick Foley came out to a huge pop from the Huntsville crowd. He said the holidays wouldn’t be complete without a cheap Mick Foley book plug. He had “Christmas Chaos” with him, but that wasn’t his announcement. He said although he’d been a Raw guy of late, next week he’d be going to Smackdown. But it would be a very special Smackdown, it would be the holiday show from Iraq. Clips aired of last year’s Christmas show.
As Foley continued speaking about how honored he was to be able to support American’s troops, Hassan and Daivari came out to interrupt.

A loud “USA” chant started as Daivari introduced Hassan, who addressed Mick Foley. Rather rudely. Then the “What?” chants started. Hassan said he was a prisoner in his own country. Blah, blah, blah.

Foley appreciated his passion, but disagreed with almost every word he’d said. But isn’t it wonderful that he lived in a great country where he was free to express his views, no matter how stupid they sound, he said.

Hassan continued until Foley said he’d “pissed him off.” Hassan and Daivari advanced toward the ring as Foley said he supported America–the land of the free and the home of the brave. Foley invited them to step into Foley Island (the ring) where they would feel his fist in their mouth and his boot in their ass.

Hassan had taken off his shirt to climb into the ring, then turned around and left, saying he didn’t respect Foley enough to fight him.

(Commercial break)

Quarter Hour 7

Highlights were shown of last week’s Women’s Title match, including Lita’s scary dive to the outside. Lita had walked away the winner.

Todd Grisham was interviewing Trish about her loss last week. She got her broken nose out of joint and told “Tom” she’d slap the glasses off his face. She said Lita had better enjoy the title while she has it.

Rochelle, yet another busty diva, was being interviewed by Eric Bischoff when Edge burst in. He was pleading his case (in a whiney sort of way) and Bischoff told him that after he’d made his announcement, Edge would have something he’d never had before. Ah, poor gullible Edge.

(Commercial break)

(3) Six-Man Tag Match: Maven, Christian & Tyson Tomko over Eugene, William Regal, & Shelton Benjamin. Christian started by pummeling Eugene, who reached into his trunks and pulled out Mr. Socko. Airplane spins for Christian and a toss to the outside for Maven. Tomko tagged in to solve some problems, then it was Maven’s turn. Eugene was unable to make it to his corner to make the tag to a teammate. Eugene with a stunner to Maven, and he tagged Benjamin in. Benjamin cleaned house, but Stinger splashed himself into the corner. It turned into a brawl, with Eugene pulling out Mr. Socko and Maven rolled up Shelton Benjamin for a surprise pin.

The interactive vote was for a Triple Threat Rematch.

Bischoff, with the title belt over his shoulder, headed out the door to the ring. He ran into Triple H, who begged Bischoff to make the right decision. He was practically in tears as he tried to persuade Bischoff to do what was right for business. And, of course, Triple H was right for business.

Bischoff said he take it into consideration.

(Commercial break)

Next Monday will be a “Best of” show.

Eric Bischoff’s music hit and he headed down the ramp to announce his decision about the World Heavyweight Title. He called Triple H, Chris Benoit and Edge down to the ring.

Quarter Hour 9

Triple H came out with Batista and Flair, and Bischoff said he’d asked him to come alone. Triple H said Evolution had more wins than anyone and the champ should be a winner.

He could have given the belt to Benoit or Edge. But his third choice was for an Elimination Chamber to take place at New Year’s Revolution on January 9, 2005. The title would remain vacant until that time. It would be Benoit vs. Edge vs. Triple H vs. Chris Jericho vs. Batista vs. Randy Orton. When Batista’s name was announced the jaws of both Triple H and Flair dropped. With all the competitors standing in the ring, a fight broke out when Bischoff left. Triple H started to leave, but ran into Orton on the ramp, who began to punch Triple H, then threw him into the ring. Orton started to give Triple H an RKO, but Batista interrupted, so Orton RKO’d him instead. As the show ended, Triple H was headed up the ramp and Orton was pointing to him. Maybe Triple H ought to go back and read a few chapters of Making the Game before that big match.

Only three matches on this show, but it was a good one nonetheless.
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Tidus_Raider

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Raw sounds good this week. The Edge/Orton match and Y2J/Benoit V HHH/Batista will be better then anything on yesterday's PPV.
 

thuganomics

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Benoit vs. Edge vs. Triple H vs. Chris Jericho vs. Batista vs. Randy Orton in a elimination chamber.....HELL YEAH!!
 

Broncodroid

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Batista wins the chamber and will challenge HHH for the leadership of Evolution. This creates either a vacum where Evolution split with Flair perhaps siding with the new Champ Batista which sets up HHH and HBK reuniting. Orton may rejoin Batista though unlikely as this threatens the likely 3 man main event at Wrestlemania.

Wrestlemania IMO sees Orton v HHH v Batsita which is the end of Evolution and the start of HHH and Michaels reforming some type of stable. Perhaps even HHH moving onto a new gimmich more old school HHH wearing jeans etc.
 

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Was an enjoyable show, and actually improved on last week's promising show. As raider_69 said, there were only the three matches, but the storyline development tonight was what the WWE needs to go back to. Simplicity.

Notes[]b]
- I had never seen Snitzky before, he has a good presence about him. His dialogue was a little cheesy, but he's genuinely intimidating. Was not surprised to see Kane held back a little longer.
- Bischoff seems stranded between being a face and a heel. The end of the show pushed him towards face-dom, however.
- Six man tag match was good, but rather pointless. Little more the a space filler.
- Randy Orton is a legend. I've liked him for ages, but his in ring ability and ability to work the crowd continues to impress me. Give the kid a memorable gimmick, and watch him soar.
- Tomko is injured, right? He didn't look terribly good in the match.
- Batista is growing on me. He has more charisma than I originally gave him credit for. They're building up a HHH vs. Batista feud brilliantly, with subtle things. Even Batista winning the match for Evolution was a nice touch.
- Still think Trish makes an awesome heel
- Lita should talk less. She's not very good at it.
- Mohammed Hassan delivers a good interview. He actually looks worked up by some of the stuff he says. Did anyone else find the blind patriotism irritating? I mean, he has a point, it doesn't pay to be of Middle Eastern descent these days. Glad WWE didn't push the envelope and have him say the US deserved it.
- Foley votes Kerry. Smart guy.

Does that mean we've got two PPVs in January?
 

Raider_69

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they are trending an INCREDABLY fine line with Hassan, and i think when he said the troops are "gutless" thats where they stepped over the mark, however im impressed by his work thus far, he looked to be a fine physical speciman too. They are pushing him to be a heel in america but i think he will get some pops every so often. He makes some very good political points.

The WWE is going to get accused of racism here but if they play their cards right and present him as a arab american who loves his country, both home and aboard and the fans turn on him and force him to heel status the WWE will have done it well and shown the US people to be the racists not the WWE themselves

Im keen as to see how this goes.

As for batista, ive said it before, they are doing everything right that they f**ked up in the Orton face turn, subtle things as CBW suggested is whats doing it, the emphisis on "real world champion" in his promo was a nice touch, then seeing him dominate and have his hand raised, the casual quick smile when he was announced to be in the match was also good. He or Orton will win Elimination Chamber but im hoping for Y2J!
 

Raider_69

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chriswalkerbush said:
Notes
- I had never seen Snitzky before, he has a good presence about him. His dialogue was a little cheesy, but he's genuinely intimidating. Was not surprised to see Kane held back a little longer.
- Bischoff seems stranded between being a face and a heel. The end of the show pushed him towards face-dom, however.
- Six man tag match was good, but rather pointless. Little more the a space filler.
- Randy Orton is a legend. I've liked him for ages, but his in ring ability and ability to work the crowd continues to impress me. Give the kid a memorable gimmick, and watch him soar.
- Tomko is injured, right? He didn't look terribly good in the match.
- Still think Trish makes an awesome heel
- Lita should talk less. She's not very good at it.
- Foley votes Kerry. Smart guy.

Does that mean we've got two PPVs in January?

- Snitsky is shithouse in ring, he showed a bit more with mic in hand tonight but generally he sucks :lol:
- Bish will no doubt go quickly back to heel status
- 6 man tag match was a time waster for sure
- Orton needs to go back heel ASAP, he is smug and arrogent, i dislike him alot as a face but as a heel is one of my favs
- Tomko is ordinary, he is injured but still ordinary IMO
- Agreed, trish = awesome heel
- Spot on, Lita is crap on the mic
- i disagree but each to their own ;-)

yea, rumble and NY Revolutions
 

canberra_raiders2k2

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i too believe orton should be a heel..he has that look about him..lol

Hassan has good mic skills, especaill since he was told to say things that most wrestlers never have to say..he has good size..i just dont like how cause his arab means his a heel..why not make him a face, could of done it with him being masked and saving guys then taking his mask off and finding out he was an arab american..the current story just feels iffy.

batista is great, he has great in ring abilty and just watching him give hhh that look at the end was great..about time the wwe done something right lol.
 

Misanthrope

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The WWE has a long trend of 'us and them' booking. Look at who has been 'evil' in the past. You've got Englishmen (William Regal), Canadians (Lance Storm, Christian), Kiwis (the Bushwhackers), Islanders (Nation of Domination), and Mohammed isn't the first Middle Eastern character either. Let's not forget the love affair with the French (La Resistance). It wouldn't be so bad if the writers went beyond obvious stereotypes (French dancing, 'infidel' American speech from Mohammed, and English obsession with tea).

I didn't really get to see Orton as a heel, but as a face, I don't mind him. Right now they need charismatic and talented faces. I don't rate Benoit as a main eventer (respect him, but he has no personality), and aside from those two there's just Y2J (good to see him in the Elimination Chamber) and, to a lesser extent, Kane.
 

canberra_raiders2k2

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I'd rate shelton over Randy as a face...it seems like they are trying to turn orton in the next Austin :|

Anyone else hope that Kanes return is like Takers? as in u hear his music and etc..until he returns. hope he gets the mask back..that mask was great.
 
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