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Rd 3 2023: non parra games

Eelementary

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Yea a lot of people are creaming themselves over Hopgood but your 13 shouldn’t be leading the missed tackle rankings. And having another one of your middles in the top 10 for missed tackles is a recipe for disaster. It does however explain our horrendous ruck defence.

Matterson walks right back into the 13 jumper, tbh.

Hopgood has a lot of upside, but his defence needs work.
 
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Not sure how Tigers winning by only 1 point will help us as they would then be on 2 competition points which is a little more important then F&A
True, I'd momentarily forgot that we were so f**ked we couldn't actually snag two points out of any of our last three "close" defeats.

Lucky the Tigers are sturggling just as much as we are - perhaps if the clubs merged we might be competitive, plus Papalli'i would be happy, and Moses wouldn't have to make a decision!
 
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I don’t need to guess because I look at this stuff regularly. No surprises it’ll be middle defenders who play long minutes in poor defensive sides.
What - that tactic of BA to play his middles for long minutes (that you defend), correlating with us being a poor defensive side? I'm shocked... how can it be?😂
 

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What - that tactic of BA to play his middles for long minutes (that you defend), correlating with us being a poor defensive side? I'm shocked... how can it be?😂
Other coaches play their middles for long minutes. Trbojevic played 80 against us on the weekend, Bennett played Lemuelu for 72 minutes and Gilbert for 59 in the middle. Haas 59m, Carrigan 57m, CHN 80m, Starling 78m, Egan 67m, Harris 80m, Radley 69m, Collins 56m, Fotuaika 63m, Fa'asuamaleaui 65m. These merkins all won their games. Isaah Yeo plays 80 minutes every week. It's not the bizarre tactic you claim it to be. You are just seeing a loss and grasping for straws. Correlation means causation to you. Our middles played long minutes every week last year and we won through to the grand final against another team with a couple of long-minutes middle forwards. Don't be so shocked.
 
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I purposely typed correlation, and You literally posted "No surprises it’ll be middle defenders who play long minutes in poor defensive sides."

So which is it - if middle defenders play long minutes in both poor and in good defensive sides, then your initial statement (and your subseqnuent post) are meaningless.
 

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I purposely typed correlation, and You literally posted "No surprises it’ll be middle defenders who play long minutes in poor defensive sides."

So which is it - if middle defenders play long minutes in both poor and in good defensive sides, then your initial statement (and your subseqnuent post) are meaningless.
Only meaningless because of your inability to put two and two together. In poor defensive sides everyone is more exposed and therefore more likely to attempt one-on-one tackles. Such tackles are more likely to result in a miss, compared to a gang tackle, which is why attackers attempt to isolate defenders. It's not the defence that wants one-on-one contests, because that always benefits the attacker.

Because of this asymmetry, defenders miss more tackles in poor defensive sides. Defenders who play long minutes are going to miss more tackles than if they play short minutes, just as they will have more of every type of accumulation stat (e.g runs, metres, tackles, errors, LBAs, kicks, etc). More minutes means more of all these things, including missed tackles.

Just f**king stop with the attempted gotcha bullshit. You make yourself look petty and stupid, and you give me the opportunity to get on a soapbox. It's not working out well for you.
 

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Yea a lot of people are creaming themselves over Hopgood but your 13 shouldn’t be leading the missed tackle rankings. And having another one of your middles in the top 10 for missed tackles is a recipe for disaster. It does however explain our horrendous ruck defence.

I listed my best 13 before a ball was kicked.
And it hard Bryce and Lane starting with Matto at lock. Hopgood is a good player. But you don't become a regular nrl untill 24 unless you have flaws. His defense is it. Same as Doorey. He isn't a good defender. People ripped Papali'i but his defense was far stronger.
 

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Momoisea should be nowhere near our top 17 when everyone is fit. He is garbage.

Yeah there is no upside. Time to blood the young kid Mataele. The fact he could drop back and play for Wenty also. Morretti and Mataele are both better then Moimesea.
 

hindy111

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BA needs to tell anyone in the 2-5 positions if they don't make over 120mtrs every game they are getting dropped.
 

hineyrulz

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Mahoney makes poor decisions at dummy half, which stifles the attack. If you're making 58 metres from 8 runs you are running too often. Like Gutherson before Arthur's reduced his involvement last year.
And Hodgson doesn’t??? For such an experienced dummy half he makes as many poor choices as I do at 3am. That 3rd tackle kick probably was a 12 point turn around. If people had to get out of here for posting weak shit you would of been gone in 2008.
 

hineyrulz

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Most open comp in years and we have pissed it away.

Unbelievable we spent our 3 year window stuck behind the champion side of this era.

And now it's back level waiting for someone to pop up and we have shat the bed.
And wasting it on a bog average coach.
 

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