RD 4: Eels v Tigs - Game Day Thread

Discussion in 'Parramatta Eels' started by Gary Gutful, Apr 2, 2018.

  1. Gronk

    Gronk Moderator Staff Member

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    The only difference between Burgess and Packer was the eye contact. The both lead with their elbows into the heads of the defenders.

    Just saying that if you a serious about game related brain injuries then leading with elbow to the head intentional or not is bad for a defender and he will get time.

    An attacker however is judged on his intent.

    Inconsistent if you ask me.
     
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  2. emjaycee

    emjaycee First Grade

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    I just wish he had more mates with the same attitude.
     
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  3. Gary Gutful

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    As if we are that f**ken sad that we would go on to the Tigers forum and give you shit if the Eels won?

    What kind of a f**ken loooser would do something like that?
     
  4. Gary Gutful

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    I hope someone is keeping stats on this. I’d definitely like to see some more consistency amongst those numbers.
     
  5. Jake the snake

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    Really impressed with Moses the bloke wants to win. It’s a good thing when your half is passionate. I’d have to question the desire of his other team mates most notably Norman.
     
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  6. strider

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    Well one major difference is that burgess did it with his leading arm carrying the ball ... kaysa got packers other arm .... i thought packer wasnt even looking at kaysa, he was more looking at the other tackler ..... you cant chop arms and elbows off - could maybe tie em down by his side tho
     
  7. emjaycee

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    I bet he wishes he could have tied them down back in New York
     
  8. emjaycee

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    I would nearly make Moses captain.
     
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  9. hindy111

    hindy111 Referee

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    I plan too
     
  10. Gronk

    Gronk Moderator Staff Member

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    You missed my point. A tackler who makes contact with the head - intentional or not - will get penalised and perhaps put on report. He will then be dealt with by the judiciary and will be likely charged with careless or reckless etc.

    That matrix does not apply to attackers who also make contact with the head. It seems that they are judged by intent.
     
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  11. Tiger5150

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    Um.......not sure Russell Packer has ever been to NY
     
  12. Tiger5150

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    Um.....Eisenhuth was passed the ball and strolled in straight line and scored the try. Wouldnt that make Brooks the decoy?
     
  13. strider

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    I agree that attackers can get away with some shit at times .... and i have often wondered will they try and crack downor change rules cos its probably as open to future lawsuits as getting whacked when defending ... but theres only so much can be done, unless we wanna play touch

    I think packer is a thug but i didnt think that was intentional
     
  14. emjaycee

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    Doh... my bad.

    Was thinking of Russell Lodge of course :D
     
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  15. hindy111

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    Tigers score how many points in last 3 games prior to eels game?

    Some seem to be missing the point. Apparently worse attack in league.
     
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  16. Gronk

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    Kaysa gets a mention here only from the angle that Packer did not get charged, so Burgess should have been found not guilty. I look at it from the player welfare angle and maintain that there can be zero contact with the head.


    Burgess' plea over tough NRL call ignored

    Sam Burgess' legal counsel had pleaded with the NRL judiciary not to make "too tough of a call on ball-carriers" before the panel's two-match suspension of the South Sydney star for dangerous contact.

    The Rabbitohs were left "very disappointed" after Burgess was found guilty of making careless and dangerous contact on Canterbury defender Josh Morris in their Good Friday clash.

    The English forward and his lawyer James McLeod claimed the ball-runner was merely bracing for impact when his forearm struck Morris' neck, as the Canterbury centre dashed across from marker.

    Judiciary chairman Geoff Bellew told his three-man panel to ignore McLeod's "tough call" reference, insisting they only judge on the descriptors of the dangerous contact charge - that being it was careless, had unacceptable risk and was with the head or neck - and not on emotions.

    But regardless, McLeod's request will be a talking point across the NRL going forward after two other other tacklers were seriously knocked down by hulking ball-carriers last week from restarts.

    Burgess posted a now-deleted photo on social media over the weekend of Jason Taumalolo making similar contact with Isaah Yeo. This resulted in the Penrith defender leaving the field for a concussion check but the North Queensland star was not charged.

    Parramatta hooker Kaysa Pritchard was also taken off in Parramatta's loss on Monday to the Wests Tigers after he joined a tackle on the far bigger Russell Packer.

    In those instances, it's possible the match review committee decided there was no discernible movement of the offending arm and neither incident was even penalised.

    McLeod's message was still resonating with a frustrated Rabbitohs camp who didn't take questions from media after Tuesday evening's hearing.

    "Rules need to be given a common-sense approach and application in directness to the nature of the game," McLeod said.

    "It would be too tough of a call on ball-carriers who are like the situation that Sam was in, to prohibit and make illegal the act of standing one's ground as ball-carrier and bracing for impact.

    "Sometimes in rugby league, there are collisions which are somewhat awkward and unfortunate ... But it doesn't mean the cause of that is an illegal act on behalf of player Burgess."

    Burgess also claimed he had less than a second to prepare for Morris' impact, which came as he travelled across the field from marker with the Souths' prop stuck on his own line.

    But the panel of Dallas Johnson, Tony Puletua and Mal Cochrane took 15 minutes to disagree and side with NRL counsel Peter McGrath.

    "He's not only braced himself but he changed the direction of the forearm and brought it into contact with Morris," McGrath said during the hearing.

    The South Sydney forward will miss Friday's game against St George Illawarra and the following week's clash with rivals the Sydney Roosters, after carryover points from an earlier cannonball tackle took the ban beyond one week.

    https://au.sports.yahoo.com/league/a/39716319/burgess-plea-over-tough-nrl-call-ignored/
     
  17. I'm a loser baby...

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    *Numbers may have been pulled out of my arse for the purpose of making a point
     
  18. Gary Gutful

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    Sharpie was passionate about his job as well.
     
  19. Gary Gutful

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    I did my own calcs. They were surprisingly accurate (give or take a couple of decimal points).
     
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