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Rd12: 8pm Parra v Manly GAME DAY THREAD at Commbank 23/5/25

Poupou Escobar

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Your response to that post was pretty tangential and evasive, to be honest. As Joker had already called you out on that, there was no need to add a response.

You said it was the first time since 2020 we've scored fewer than 20 points a game, and you were wrong on two fronts. QED.

 
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Poupou Escobar

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Yet you're happy to use a single game as a sample size to push your own points and conclusions....
Because the single game is disproving your theory, which is all that is required for falsification of the theory. Proving a theory true (impossible to do with 100% certainty in the uncontrolled environment of the real world) is where increased confidence should arise as the size of the sample increases. But disproving a theory only requires one counterexample:

"Suppose a theory proposes that all swans are white. The obvious way to prove the theory is to check that every swan really is white – but there’s a problem. No matter how many white swans you find, you can never be sure there isn’t a black swan lurking somewhere. So you can never prove the theory is true. In contrast, finding one solitary black swan guarantees that the theory is false. This is the unique power of falsification: the ability to disprove a universal statement with just a single example – an ability, Popper pointed out, that flows directly from the theorems of deductive logic."

 

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Because the single game is disproving your theory, which is all that is required for falsification of the theory. Proving a theory true (impossible to do with 100% certainty in the uncontrolled environment of the real world) is where increased confidence should arise as the size of the sample increases. But disproving a theory only requires one counterexample:

"Suppose a theory proposes that all swans are white. The obvious way to prove the theory is to check that every swan really is white – but there’s a problem. No matter how many white swans you find, you can never be sure there isn’t a black swan lurking somewhere. So you can never prove the theory is true. In contrast, finding one solitary black swan guarantees that the theory is false. This is the unique power of falsification: the ability to disprove a universal statement with just a single example – an ability, Popper pointed out, that flows directly from the theorems of deductive logic."


Ahaha

You just try and wiggle out of everything
 

Poupou Escobar

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Ryle Smith made 55 mostly effective tackles.
Good job but you don't want that.
Work rate is literally his main job. He doesn't really have the skill or power to contribute much to the attack, but with the talent in the rest of our spine, it's not what we need from him.
 

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Do they keep a stat on offload receptions? You would think it would be mainly DHs getting the reception.
Depends who is doing the offloading, and where. But yes I'd expect the dummy half to receive more offloads than most players. The question is what he should do if he receives an offload. If running the ball is a strength, the obvious and low risk option is to just run the ball. But if there is a more dangerous runner available to pass to (e.g. Moses, Drown, Iongi) that is probably the better option after receiving an offload. It depends on how risky that second pass would be. Receiving an offload is more likely to occur in traffic than most other passes, and there's a good chance any second pass will be high risk. It's not easy.
 

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Work rate is literally his main job. He doesn't really have the skill or power to contribute much to the attack, but with the talent in the rest of our spine, it's not what we need from him.
The main job is good decision making / give good crisp passes from DH. He is a work in progress at that.
His main asset is he is a fit little bastard - so yeah work rate is very important and probs big part of why he is now number 1.
I wonder how they measure "effective tackles"? If they say he made 55 Ts at 95% effective does that mean out of none of those 95% did the Sea Eagles get momentum?
 

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Depends who is doing the offloading, and where. But yes I'd expect the dummy half to receive more offloads than most players. The question is what he should do if he receives an offload. If running the ball is a strength, the obvious and low risk option is to just run the ball. But if there is a more dangerous runner available to pass to (e.g. Moses, Drown, Iongi) that is probably the better option after receiving an offload. It depends on how risky that second pass would be. Receiving an offload is more likely to occur in traffic than most other passes, and there's a good chance any second pass will be high risk. It's not easy.
Out of interest have you notice the way they get off loads has changed (at least I only noticed it this year after noticing a jnr fella have a lot of success last year with it). They try to get the arm with ball up over the wrestling hyenas and sort of overhand it. They almost all use to be underarm or (riskier) to the side.
 
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