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RufusRex

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But it isn't the greatest winning run by a professional club is it. Doesn't a Scandinavian soccer team have that?
 

muzby

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But it isn't the greatest winning run by a professional club is it. Doesn't a Scandinavian soccer team have that?
Wasn’t it 24 in a row for the New York Yacht club in the America’s Cup?

Given those wins took the winning run to somewhere around 100 years unbeaten, that’s got to be up there too..
 

possm

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wow!! Im from Bundaberg now living in WA, thanks so much!!! I first got into Saints from the 1977 GF and played junior rep league for Wide Bay in the 80s

I first retired to Hervey Bay when I was 38. The Dragons had a few trials up at Hervey Bay and boy was I happy when I saw the wide by rugby league jumber - white with the big red V. So watching the wide bay team was the next best thing to watching Saints go around in Sydney.
 

possm

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Wasn’t it 24 in a row for the New York Yacht club in the America’s Cup?

Given those wins took the winning run to somewhere around 100 years unbeaten, that’s got to be up there too..

Who cares! There is no first grade rugby league club that comes anywhere close to the all mighty Saints achievement of 11 consecutive GF's.
 

muzby

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Who cares! There is no first grade rugby league club that comes anywhere close to the all mighty Saints achievement of 11 consecutive GF's.
Possibly so from a rugby league perspective if you want to narrow it down..

But the statement which drew the discussion was about any team anywhere in the world...
 

Willow

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But it isn't the greatest winning run by a professional club is it. Doesn't a Scandinavian soccer team have that?
Weren't they found to be an amateur or lower grade club? Can't recall the details now.
I'm sure there are some junior country competitions in Australia where only a few teams compete, and one of them wins every year.
 

True_Believer

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We need to stay up to date with putting our brand 'out there'.

The board should be onto this.
They should be listening to the fans.
Locking themselves in their glass houses does nothing to grow the club.

Pointless bringing in new fans if existing ones are leaving. They should be listening, learning andmaking the adjustments that any long term business needs to do to stay relevant.

Look at Toyota.
Stuck their heads in the sand.
Charged top dollar for their cars.
Quality gone downhill.
People are waking up.

Must keep their ears and eyes open.

What are you trying to do with it though? What's the goal? Making more money? Getting more supporters?

One post you mention that we have the largest supporter base out there and then the next talk about it being pointless bringing in new fans if existing ones are leaving. I am genuinely confused as this seems to be conflicting views.

My personal view with league is that:

  • League marketing in it's current state (across the NRL as a whole) is just preaching to the converted
  • Most followers of league do so due to family tradition or through 'osmosis' from other family members - rarely have a I met someone who jumps on the league bandwagon who hasn't had some family member already fanatically following a team
    • Those that do come in from the outside are more likely to follow the successful teams at the time - history means very little
  • I don't think we are any more marketable in the current environment than other teams. As mentioned in a previous post, history means squat if you haven't achieved much in the current decade
  • People want value from their league experience:
    • Ticket prices and ground costs are often exorbitant
    • Jersey prices are stupid - especially for the younger supporter who wants to follow teams
    • Club memberships (across all clubs) provides very limited value for supporters outside of a teams home town
    • So even if you were to market successfully you are likely to lose them just as quickly as the value isn't there
I also can't see the comparison to Toyota? How would marketing improve that? Sounds like they've drop the ball on production quality if indeed all of that is correct. No amount of marketing is going to change peoples perception if the wheels fall off your Ranger as soon as you drive it off the show room floor.

I just don't think marketing is going to make a difference. At least not at a club level. If marketing needs to change, it needs to be at an NRL level. The game itself needs to be marketed better.
 

nontime111

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Who cares! There is no first grade rugby league club that comes anywhere close to the all mighty Saints achievement of 11 consecutive GF's.
fantastic! I actually got into St George due to Mum allowing us to buy one league jersey through RLW mag in 76.......so poor the only ones we were allowed to buy were the lowest tier basic ( as they were in three price groups on complexity of jumper) which included, Maggies, Balmain Newtown and Saints, so I put my thinking cap on and thought....hmm....who would beat a Magpie or a Tiger? a DRAGON!! so went for St George after that and joined under 9s Brothers up there... then next year BAM Baths babes gave everyone a towelling and I was set for life! Didnt get to see my first Saints game live though till Storm entered the comp in 98 as I was living in Melbourne as a musician at the time.....that was one of the best days of my life as they were the first ever team to Beat Storm in Melbourne! magic night....
 
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fantastic! I actually got into St George due to Mum allowing us to buy one league jersey through RLW mag in 76.......so poor the only ones we were allowed to buy were the lowest tier basic ( as they were in three price groups on complexity of jumper) which included, Maggies, Balmain Newtown and Saints, so I put my thinking cap on and thought....hmm....who would beat a Magpie or a Tiger? a DRAGON!! so went for St George after that and joined under 9s Brothers up there... then next year BAM Baths babes gave everyone a towelling and I was set for life! Didnt get to see my first Saints game live though till Storm entered the comp in 98 as I was living in Melbourne as a musician at the time.....that was one of the best days of my life as they were the first ever team to Beat Storm in Melbourne! magic night....

I love stories like this, how folks became dragons fans...
 

nontime111

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same! and low and behold the next season, my first serious season as a fan, they WON! the other funny thing, when I was a kid, the only position I knew was winger.....as they were the stars then scoring all the tries, to a kid you know, its not about play or who set them up its just the actual scoring! so when I rocked up to my first under 9 training day, the coach asked us all what positions wed like to play of course I said winger!! hehe even though I was not that fast.....eventually became a centre and later fullback and Im sure, like probably every other one if us on this forum desperately when I grew up wanted to play for St George!
 

Old Kogarah Boy 1

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Wasn’t it 24 in a row for the New York Yacht club in the America’s Cup?

Given those wins took the winning run to somewhere around 100 years unbeaten, that’s got to be up there too..

Yes, but we aretalking about competitions that are not rigged or totally corrupt, so to speak.

The NYYC write the book to suit themselves.
No one was supposed to beat them.
It wasn't expected to happen.
We and other nations were invited to compete on their terms.
We weren't supposed to win the b!oody thing!
Its just not cricket ole chap!
 

Gareth67

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fantastic! I actually got into St George due to Mum allowing us to buy one league jersey through RLW mag in 76.......so poor the only ones we were allowed to buy were the lowest tier basic ( as they were in three price groups on complexity of jumper) which included, Maggies, Balmain Newtown and Saints, so I put my thinking cap on and thought....hmm....who would beat a Magpie or a Tiger? a DRAGON!! so went for St George after that and joined under 9s Brothers up there... then next year BAM Baths babes gave everyone a towelling and I was set for life! Didnt get to see my first Saints game live though till Storm entered the comp in 98 as I was living in Melbourne as a musician at the time.....that was one of the best days of my life as they were the first ever team to Beat Storm in Melbourne! magic night....

I had no idea who they were , can you believe that ? Totally ignorant to the fact that they had won numerous premierships and were still going strong . My mate had the words ‘Souths all the way ‘ on his school bag and I actually asked him what it meant. He told me that it was the rugby league team and to watch it on the weekend ( in ‘grainy’ black and white in those days , telecast by A.B.C. )

Even though I was playing the game at school and on a weekend , I had no idea that it was played by adults also , as I said naive.

So off to the pub we went where the publican would allow in to sit in the back corner ( “ and behave yourselves and don’t say a word to anyone that you were here “ ). Hence my introduction to the mighty Saints and also becoming a lemon quash addict at such a tender young age .
 
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Drag Queen

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Yes, but we aretalking about competitions that are not rigged or totally corrupt, so to speak.

The NYYC write the book to suit themselves.
No one was supposed to beat them.
It wasn't expected to happen.
We and other nations were invited to compete on their terms.
We weren't supposed to win the b!oody thing!
Its just not cricket ole chap!
Hasn't Wild Oates X1 alluded to the possibility of taking on the America's Cup? Bring it on if true mate.
 

nontime111

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I had no idea who they were , can you believe that ? Totally ignorant to the fact that they had won numerous premierships and were still going strong . My mate had the words ‘Souths all the way ‘ on his school bag and I actually asked him what it meant. He told me that it was the rugby league team and to watch it on the weekend ( in black and white in those days .

Even though I was playing the game at school and on a weekend , I had no idea that it was played by adults also , as I said naive.

So off to the pub we went where the publican would allow in to sit in the back corner ( “ and behave yourselves and don’t say a word to anyone that you were here “ . Hence my introduction to rugby league and also becoming a lemon quash addict at such a tender young age .
GREAT story thanks!! same! I had no idea about there fame or GF string of wins, but when I told my legend of a Grandad I was going for Saints he clued me in! the bizzare thing about growing up in QLD in the 70s and 80s...utterly ZERO NSWRL on TV!! nothing.so I didnt get to see my Dragons play at all ever only if theyd made the actual GF!! I used to only be able to listen to gems on AM radio as the only league on tele was the BRL competition which was So strong and entertaining then! I went for Wynum Manly in that and we had half the Aussie team anyway....greg Dowling, Colin Scott, Gene Miles, King Wally... I remember my whole junior under 10 league team going down to see a Brisbane GF once, it was Souths coached by Wayne Bennett vs Redcliffe captain coached by Artie Beetson! amazing game...total thriller, Mal Meninga was in Souths also, great days!!
 

qld redvee

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I first retired to Hervey Bay when I was 38. The Dragons had a few trials up at Hervey Bay and boy was I happy when I saw the wide by rugby league jumber - white with the big red V. So watching the wide bay team was the next best thing to watching Saints go around in Sydney.
So possm are you still up at the bay ??????? would be good to catch up and watch a game
 

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