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Refereeing Transparency & Consistency

Discussion in 'St George Illawarra Dragons' started by RedV Resurgence, Jul 26, 2020.

  1. dannyt

    dannyt First Grade

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    Anyone else notice Graham constantly questioning Atkins in the first 20 minutes when we were on top? The next 40 minutes saw 80% possession to the sharks on the back of set restart after set restart, and what proved to he unassailable lead despite coming close.

    Our captain, on the other hand, said nothing. Good captains put pressure on the ref, and it increases your chances of getting a 50-50. Look at Smith.

    Now, whether it would've got us more restarts, or maybe the sharks get less, we'll never know.

    IMHO, the restarts and possession against in that 40 minutes cost much more than a dud clarke decision. Indeed, we should be expecting dud calls from clarke ever since that semi final against the dogs in Kogarah- pretty sure it was 1995.
     
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    Gareth67 First Grade

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    Yes , that certainly makes the / their decision so much the worst , they should had replayed the video at least twice , preferable thrice . However last night it was the Dragons and next week yet another team , hopefully in that case it will not cost the team ( with the exception of the rorters or storm ) the match .
     
  3. BBTB

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    Good call.... It was fantastic the 2or3 rounds after the 6 again rule was bought in, but now, the referee
    is using it to piggy back their favorite team up the park... And out of trouble.
    It's just turned into a f**kn joke....
    They the referees, are again orchestrating games for Foxtel.
    Our game against the shonkies, was a classic example...
    We , just not ment to win this game.
     
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    boardlumps62 Juniors

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    When I watched it live it appeared a Cronulla try and when the bunker said try I thought that was a quick decision must have been obvious. But no a slow motion replay from the front showed Duftys got there first. Got to ask why the quick decision was made maybe to make up for the earlier no try over obstruction which I thought a try.
     
  5. Coppo_ForeverYOUNG

    Coppo_ForeverYOUNG Juniors

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    We need to bring back the bucket of spit

    The one thing I don't get with pretty much every howler this year, (Maybe excusing Manly's shafting against Parramatta as it was a split second call, but even then clearly not forward) is that it seems that everyone except the bunker is able to understand what the correct ruling would be. It's nowhere near good enough and albeit minimalistic so far at least there is some form of accountability beginning to take place
     
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  6. Dragon David

    Dragon David Juniors

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    Sorry boardlumps62 but the obstruction no try to Ramien was after the try to Williams.
     
  7. Lovemedragons

    Lovemedragons Juniors

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    they dont need humans removed from decision making, just Stephen Clark will do.
     
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  8. Lovemedragons

    Lovemedragons Juniors

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    agree, a squeaky wheel gets the oil, we need a whinging bastard of a captain just like the Storm have.
     
  9. latemail

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    I can cop the on field ref getting it wrong as he sees it once in real time but how the f**k do these dumb merkinS in the clunker get it wrong when they can view it in every angle
    If you showed a 5 year old that video clip and asked him who’s hand touched the ball first I would guarantee he would have pointed out Dufty
    They are a f**king embarrassment to the paying public who keep getting f**ked over by these dirty f**king useless imposter masquerading as referees
     
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    IMG_4694.png Saab's try at the death my son showed me this late Saturday night :(
     
  11. Lovemedragons

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    you say this as if you actually believe Clark has more brains than a 5yo lol
     
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    Dragon David Juniors

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    Another one that the ref and bunker should have checked!!!
     
  13. possm

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    I'd like to see the ref just send up a request for the bunker to check for any wrong-doing without saying whether he thinks it is a try. If the bunk is unsure then send it back as ref's call.

    I'd also like for the commentators to shut up so we can hear what the bunker is saying. They just yabber on about rubish and we mis the conversation.

    Placing a virtual grid over the field should clear up many off-side decisions by the bunker fairly quickly. In today's world this should not be a difficult thing to do.
     
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  14. blacksafake

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    The photo is deceiving as the ball is still in the air. I’m certain he grounded it on the dead ball line. Even Saab’s reaction gave it away.
     
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  15. TruSaint

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    Yep, the Dufty call was crap, but this one was correct.
    That still frame is deceiving.
    Watch the replay again. No try.
     
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    stg.png

    One frame later.....no try!
     
  17. dannyt

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    Given the actions of the bunker after Williams celebrated his no try, perhaps Saab and Dufty should've celebrated instead of giving themselves up.
     
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    muzby Village Idiot Staff Member

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    Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good ref conspiracy..
     
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    RedV Resurgence Juniors

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    So the NRL has sacked the bunker ref(s) from Saturday's game and that has fixed the problem? No.

    The key questions the NRL and media should have asked and have once again failed are:
    1. were all camera angles of the try reviewed ?
    2. Was downward pressure confirmed by the Cronulla player in any of the shot?
    3. If doubt exist, such as who's hand touched the ball, then did they zoom in ?

    The NRL should come out and explain the decision making process the bunker refs should follow.

    No doubt that an event like this one will happen again in the coming weeks and it would be a major failing by the NRL if they didn't ensure video refs follow a standard process before making a determination. Based on Saturday's evidence, it would appear that the refs follow what ever process they what in making a decision. That's not good enough.

    By the way, I still think errors will be made in the future, however the number of really bad decisions ( Like Saturdays) should be greatly reduced.
     
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  20. boardlumps62

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    Ok so wasn't a square up thanks.
     

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