RIP NRL

[Game_Breaker]

It was absolutely not a 50/50 call. It clearly his the Canberra player.

What everyone is saying is they find the idea of Canberra incorrectly being given 6 again in great attacking position preferable to the right call being made. Yes Canberra would have kicked if they had known, what happens with that kick is anyone's guess. Likely scenario is it is difused like most others were and we score the long range try anyways.

This is nothing more than roosters bashing. Had the shoe been on the other foot not one of you would have had an issue with the call.

Correct call was made. Move on.

If it was clear Cummins wouldn’t have called 6 again

Canberra could’ve put a grubber in the in goal for a repeat set
They could’ve kept the ball alive and spread it
They could’ve taken a shot at field goal in that last play or on a possible repeat set

We don’t know because Cummins broke the rules and changed his mind

 

[typicalfan]

Thank you.
Don't they say correcting punctuation is the lowest way of trying making an argument ?

I was arguing against your version of events, not your punctuation. Yes the decision you talk about let to the Raiders getting good ball but Cronk got binned because he tackle a player early who would have likely scored.

 

[Valheru]

Yeah it was 50/50...

Thats why 2 refs made 2 different calls.

No it wasn't.

One ref was blatantly wrong, the other correct.

 

[Valheru]

If it was clear Cummins wouldn’t have called 6 again

Canberra could’ve put a grubber in the in goal for a repeat set
They could’ve kept the ball alive and spread it
They could’ve taken a shot at field goal in that last play or on a possible repeat set

We don’t know because Cummins broke the rules and changed his mind

We could have collected the grubber and ran 100m for a try.

The ball could have went dead for a 7 tackle set.

How people have convinced themselves that a try or repeat set was a certainty is beyond me.

The correct call was made and tha raiders couldn't defend our play.

It is as simple as that.

 

[Game_Breaker]

We could have collected the grubber and ran 100m for a try.

The ball could have went dead for a 7 tackle set.

How people have convinced themselves that a try or repeat set was a certainty is beyond me.

The correct call was made and tha raiders couldn't defend our play.

It is as simple as that.

That’s the point
We don’t know

Cummins robbed the Raiders of the opportunity because he broke the rules
Not because of an incorrect call.

 

[Danny-Boy]

Ahhh the day after.....

f**k YOU NRL!!!

f**king still boggles the mind. The Premiership is in the balance and they pull that ripper.

Cummins you f**king wanker, if you f**king wave your hands in the air, you don’t f**king look at the pocket ref after you do it and ask for advice. You made a f**king call you f**king stick with it.

Where’s Ricky and the Raiders fans? f**k you should be blowing up deluxe. This is unacceptable shit.

 

[Valheru]

That’s the point
We don’t know

Cummins robbed the Raiders of the opportunity because he broke the rules
Not because of an incorrect call.

What did they do with all the other chances they had?

 

[Game_Breaker]

What did they do with all the other chances they had?

“But but the other chances” doesn’t excuse this f**k up

 

[bileduct]

What did they do with all the other chances they had?

Scored a try, forced a few dropouts...

 

[Perth Red]

Having slept on it, and as a reasonably neutral, it still feels like the Raiders got totally screwed over. Two very very evenly matched sides locked up with a few minutes to go and Raiders on top with momentum and field position and then that happens. I dont believe for a minute Roosters score that great try without the Raiders still dealing with that decision in their heads and structure. No way of knowing if Raiders would have scored with 6 to go or a grubber if they knew it was last tackle, but Roosters definitely benefited and were good enough to take the advantage gifted them. I very unsatisfactory end to what could have been a classic.

The trainer intervention that gifted Roosters early field position and dominance was equally laughable, in the rules but geez what a joke it was.

 

[tri_colours]

What about the first half call for the Roosters when the ball from a charge down hits THEIR trainer with no fullback in sight. Raiders would have scored or gone very close. But no Roosters get the advantage.

The problem with the refs is they want to follow the letter of the law on some rules and ignore/manage others...go back to one ref.

We've been training for that all week.You must admit it came of perfectly.

 

[T.S Quint]

Or they could have penalised Canberra for tackling Kearys legs.

I couldn’t believe no one mentioned this during the coverage. That was a penalty every day of the week.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

That’s the point
We don’t know

Cummins robbed the Raiders of the opportunity because he broke the rules
Not because of an incorrect call.

An opportunity they had no right to have to begin with

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Scored a try, forced a few dropouts...

But largely nothing over 80

 

[Perth Red]

An opportunity they had no right to have to begin with

They did have the right, because the ref gave them the right. He shouldn't have then rescinded it.

Imagine if he had blown a whistle to stop play, players stop then he changes his mind and calls play on and someone scoots through and scores. Its same thing, once you've made a call with the ball live it should stand.

It was in many ways a fitting crescendo to how bad reffing has become with all the constant tinkering, interpretations, adding refs and VR's, media hype forcing decisions, etc that is turning fans off the game.

 

[Mr Spock!]

No it wasn't.

One ref was blatantly wrong, the other correct.

It obviously was hence why you had 2 different calls.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

They did have the right, because the ref gave them the right. He shouldn't have then rescinded it.

Imagine if he had blown a whistle to stop play, players stop then he changes his mind and calls play on and someone scoots through and scores. Its same thing, once you've made a call with the ball live it should stand.

It was in many ways a fitting crescendo to how bad reffing has become with all the constant tinkering, interpretations, adding refs and VR's, media hype forcing decisions, etc that is turning fans off the game.

But if he did his job properly to begin with, he doesn’t give them that right. Unfortunately your third para is spot on

 

[Mr Spock!]

No, we didn't score off a reffing error

The tries were scored subsequently.
The opposition had opportunity to prevent it happening
Errors occur, you have to be able to defend them.

This constant whinging about ones own weaknesses is a deflection

Yeah you did.

 

[bileduct]

But if he did his job properly to begin with

But he didn't, did he. Instead he put Canberra at a disadvantage, where they have to make decisions based on the referee ruling changing mid-play, whereas all the Roosters needed to do was tackle irrespective of what the referee ruling was.

 

[Perth Red]

But if he did his job properly to begin with, he doesn’t give them that right. Unfortunately your third para is spot on

I can 100% live with refs getting it wrong when they have to make split decisions in areas that are almost impossible to see 100% correctly with the naked eye at full speed. Yes the call was wrong, only verified in super slo mo from a couple of different angles, but that isnt an issue for me. Refs get in the moment calls wrong, happens every game, has to be accepted as part of the game.

In 6 again they have a split second to make a decision and signal it to the players, they are bound to get them wrong occasionally. Not a problem for me, changing your mind after you've signaled that decision, that is just incompetence.