RIP NRL

[AJB1102]

2 refs is a shit idea. Simple. I'm sure just 1 bloke can f**k it up on his own.

 

[some11]

The decision, wrong or right, shouldn't be changed though.

 

[Tommy Smith]

The decision, wrong or right, shouldn't be changed though.

Agreed.

It happened once to us which gave the Raiders the ball 20m from our try line and we defended it.

It happened once to the Raiders which gave us the ball 90m from their try line and they couldn't defend it.

And so we won. Thus I don't get the outrage.

 

[Game_Breaker]

Agreed.

It happened once to us which gave the Raiders the ball 20m from our try line and we defended it.

It happened once to the Raiders which gave us the ball 90m from their try line and they couldn't defend it.

And so we won. Thus I don't get the outrage.

What incident are you referring to?
Did the ref change the decision mid play and impacted the play?

 

[Tommy Smith]

What incident are you referring to?
Did the ref change the decision mid play and impacted the play?

When Whitehead lost the ball cold in the 49th minute.

Sutton who saw the incident ruled a knock on but Cummins then inexplicably overturned the call.

The Raiders went on the attack and in the ensuing set Cronk was sin binned.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

When Whitehead lost the ball cold in the 49th minute.

Sutton who saw the incident ruled a knock on but Cummins then inexplicably overturned the call.

The Raiders went on the attack and in the ensuing set Cronk was sin binned.

Tommy, he wants an example of where play was impacted. This has been spoken about already to which all the naysayers have ignored. The sin bin and the circumstances leading up to it, is clearly not enough of an impact in their green eyes

 

[Game_Breaker]

When Whitehead lost the ball cold in the 49th minute.

Sutton who saw the incident ruled a knock on but Cummins then inexplicably overturned the call.

The Raiders went on the attack and in the ensuing set Cronk was sin binned.

Well within the rules for the ref to change the decision

You’re clutching at straws if you think it’s the same

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Well within the rules for the ref to change the decision

You’re clutching at straws if you think it’s the same

It was a knock on, though.
This is the reverse of the Raiders issue. Here the ref initially makes the right decision, then changes his mind and makes a wrong decision and awards a wrongful penalty. No straw clutching.

 

[Pete Cash]

Tbh I’d rather the penalty had been given than the scrum

 

[Pete Cash]

Agreed.

It happened once to us which gave the Raiders the ball 20m from our try line and we defended it.

It happened once to the Raiders which gave us the ball 90m from their try line and they couldn't defend it.

And so we won. Thus I don't get the outrage.

Come now tommy there is a massive difference in changing a call when the ball is dead and when it’s alive.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Come now tommy there is a massive difference in changing a call when the ball is dead and when it’s alive.

Agree with that but if Easts get the scrum feed (which they should’ve) the game’s at the other end of the field and Cronk doesn’t get sin binned. That’s our point of contention

 

[Pete Cash]

Agree with that but if Easts get the scrum feed (which they should’ve) the game’s at the other end of the field and Cronk doesn’t get sin binned. That’s our point of contention

The game is played at a million miles an hour. There will be errors by the refs. What is annoying to raiders fans is that this weird shit of course happens to us in our first grand final since the crash test dummies had a hit

I think in the circumstances raiders fans have been pretty gracious. What happened with the change call while the ball was alive is so rare that I’ve never seen it happen. So it’s a bit laughable to compare a refs decision while the ball is dead on a tip off of foul play (normal part of the game) and Cummins changing his mind and being like what I didn’t say 6 again

It doesn’t help that the nrl is basically like nah nothing happened what are you guys talking about

 

[Game_Breaker]

It was a knock on, though.
This is the reverse of the Raiders issue. Here the ref initially makes the right decision, then changes his mind and makes a wrong decision and awards a wrongful penalty. No straw clutching.

It is
The play was dead
It’s either a knock on or a penalty

Changing a decision mid play from 6 again to last is literally against the rules

 

[TheFrog]

The main reasons behind the NRL being dead in here seem to be GF ratings and a lopsided competition

So I put this data together for the past decade (2010s)

Metro's ratings and GF crowd showing the top 3 and bottom 3 for each region:
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Tally of Premierships, Grand Finals, Minor Premierships and Spoons:
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Spoons/Finals/MP/Premierships by the year:
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Let me know if theres mistakes and take of the data what you will

Easy to see why the Storm are regular Grand Finalists from these numbers. It's worth 3-500,000 sets in Melbourne, and those numbers are not lost in other cities. Two thirds of Melbourne's potential audience only want to watch the Storm.

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

Easy to see why the Storm are regular Grand Finalists from these numbers. It's worth 3-500,000 sets in Melbourne, and those numbers are not lost in other cities. Two thirds of Melbourne's potential audience only want to watch the Storm.

That's interesting as it was reported in one of the papers, I believe the SMH that last month Todd Greenberg addressed the NRL CEO's and said that if Melbourne or the Roosters made the GF, it would be a bad financial result for the NRL, whilst it would be a good result if Souths, Eels or the Raiders made it. He mentioned a couple other clubs but can't remember which ones and whether they were good or bad.

 

[Valheru]

When Whitehead lost the ball cold in the 49th minute.

Sutton who saw the incident ruled a knock on but Cummins then inexplicably overturned the call.

The Raiders went on the attack and in the ensuing set Cronk was sin binned.

That doesn't matter tommy because the roosters didn't benefit from it.

If the roles were reversed there would be about 1% of the outrage. See the decision against storm in week 1 as proof.

The 6 again reverse calls cost them exactly one kick in play. Apparently they were going to win the game there and then when they couldn't breach our defence all half. We then scored four plays later from 70m out and that was the fault of the refs, not the Canberra defenders.

 

[Tommy Smith]

If the roles were reversed there would be about 1% of the outrage. See the decision against storm in week 1 as proof.

Yep the BS call against Vunivalu was openly celebrated as the greatest thing since sliced bread. Neutrals universally loved the Storm getting a rough call.

But now with the situation reversed and the "people's team" being on the end of a call, well all of a sudden rugby league is dead.

Funny that.

 

[nick87]

Look, I don’t think that call lost us the game and there is no reason to believe that the raiders, even with 6 more would have scored.

but you guys can’t honestly believe hand on heart a referee changing their ruling in a dead ball spot of knock on vs strip is the same as a referee changing their ruling in live play which resulted in a player believing he had 6 more tackles v last

 

[titoelcolombiano]

I am not a fan of any of these clubs by why all the hate for Brisbane, Melbourne and the Roosters? The game needs more financially strong clubs like these. Who next is Parramatta going to be universally hated when their new stadium boosts their crowds, memberships and corporates to a point where they are the fourth financial powerhouse in the leauge?

Hopefully with the Roosters being generally despised by RL people it might make them more attractive to the Eastern Suburbs crowd which will be good for the game.

And no, the game isn't dying because a hated team is dominating. When I was younger Manly were the gererally hated team due to them being the silvertail toffs and their links to Arko and Bozo. There were allegations of favouritism etc but the game lived on like it always does. One try from Canberra at the right time the other night and all of a sudden the game is flush with new and old bandwagon fans.

 

[Canard]

The Cronk sin bin absolutely wasn't controversial.

Papali didn't get the opportunity to catch the ball, end of.

Phil Gould hatewanking over it is the only thing that made dopey Roosters fans have an issue.