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RLIF Eligibility Laws

Clarkent

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Which could be done here with a period of time.

If you have a stack of NZ/Australian nominated players who haven't made it to that level in say 3 years. No reason they couldn't switch

There needs to be a period of time at the very least before they can switch
In RU it's 3 years stand down. Everyone thinks that rule is good but the big teams could use that to there advantage for example Pita Gus in RU, got picked up by the all blacks, they played him for one half and then dropped him straight after that and never picked again. Fiji missed out on a good player for the world cup. No matter what way you look at changing it, the big tier 1 teams will always have the upper hand.
 

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In RU it's 3 years stand down. Everyone thinks that rule is good but the big teams could use that to there advantage for example Pita Gus in RU, got picked up by the all blacks, they played him for one half and then dropped him straight after that and never picked again. Fiji missed out on a good player for the world cup. No matter what way you look at changing it, the big tier 1 teams will always have the upper hand.

You think the current RL system is working?
 

Clarkent

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You think the current RL system is working?
The current rules now bought out the best of Tonga and Samoa. If they didn't change the rules we'll be talking about how much of a joke international rugby league is because no one gets close to beating the kangaroos. You really want to go back to the days when the Kiwis would beat the kangaroos once in a blue moon and that's it for the rest of the year?
 

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You think the current RL system is working?
They also need to give the international game time to grow. If Samoa and Tonga ends up putting out there strongest squad ever, the 3 game series between the 2 nations will be the biggest series in the international stage. Give it a few years for the game to grow and then change the rules don't change it now when it's just starting to take off
 

Iamback

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They also need to give the international game time to grow. If Samoa and Tonga ends up putting out there strongest squad ever, the 3 game series between the 2 nations will be the biggest series in the international stage. Give it a few years for the game to grow and then change the rules don't change it now when it's just starting to take off

They won't get their strongest squad though that is the point, players are always changing
 

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The current rules now bought out the best of Tonga and Samoa. If they didn't change the rules we'll be talking about how much of a joke international rugby league is because no one gets close to beating the kangaroos. You really want to go back to the days when the Kiwis would beat the kangaroos once in a blue moon and that's it for the rest of the year?

You are assuming no one of note will play for the islands though.

They are allowed to play Origin and get equal pay. Nothing is holding back players staying committed though
 

Clarkent

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You are assuming no one of note will play for the islands though.

They are allowed to play Origin and get equal pay. Nothing is holding back players staying committed though
What's stopping the Mal picking island heritage players early so they won't turn out for the island nation? If you change the rules after this season most of those heritage players won't return to the island nations. You can't expect every heritage players to be committed like Bizza and Critta. Kangaroos can drop any player they want and it won't dent there dominance. Kangaroos have the funds and facilities to look after there players, the tier two nations don't. Payne Haas coming out and saying he wants to represent Samoa in the future is getting Mal worried lol
 

Matua

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Which could be done here with a period of time.

If you have a stack of NZ/Australian nominated players who haven't made it to that level in say 3 years. No reason they couldn't switch

There needs to be a period of time at the very least before they can switch
In this example he's a guy who wanted to play for the ABs but couldn't because he played a few minutes for Fiji. Even with the new laws in rugby he wouldn't be able to do that as you can only go down (from the tier 1 teams to the Pacific Teams).

But I assume you're suggesting league does the same? Can switch but must have a stand down period?
 

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In this example he's a guy who wanted to play for the ABs but couldn't because he played a few minutes for Fiji. Even with the new laws in rugby he wouldn't be able to do that as you can only go down (from the tier 1 teams to the Pacific Teams).

But I assume you're suggesting league does the same? Can switch but must have a stand down period?

Correct. That would be the same for a young guy who declares for Aust or NZ, Doesn't get to that level and after 3 years wants to change.

I won't pick on Taulagi for this example.

Lets say Souffs and Latrell has a good year, Tom Turbo is fit. So Staggs is on outer.

He could go

2022 - Tonga
2023 - Australia
2024 - Tonga

That is a farce, there should atleast be a gap inbetween
 

Clarkent

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Correct. That would be the same for a young guy who declares for Aust or NZ, Doesn't get to that level and after 3 years wants to change.

I won't pick on Taulagi for this example.

Lets say Souffs and Latrell has a good year, Tom Turbo is fit. So Staggs is on outer.

He could go

2022 - Tonga
2023 - Australia
2024 - Tonga

That is a farce, there should atleast be a gap inbetween
Using that same example what if Latrell and Turbo came back fit next year. Staggs and Hammer will be sitting at home with no chance of getting back on the international stage for the rest of their career unless injuries brings them back on or hoping another up and coming star doesn't overtake them. The kangaroos can afford to lose star players because of there depth, they are the only nation in the world to have the luxury.
 

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Using that same example what if Latrell and Turbo came back fit next year. Staggs and Hammer will be sitting at home with no chance of getting back on the international stage for the rest of their career unless injuries brings them back on or hoping another up and coming star doesn't overtake them. The kangaroos can afford to lose star players because of there depth, they are the only nation in the world to have the luxury.

Well with a 3 year waiting period, they wouldn't be an Australian player right now, So they would be sitting out completely not strengthening Australia atleast. Ideally they would just stay in those situations
 

Clarkent

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Well with a 3 year waiting period, they wouldn't be an Australian player right now, So they would be sitting out completely not strengthening Australia atleast. Ideally they would just stay in those situations
Turbo and Latrell replacing those two will definitely strengthen Australia and they'll also sit out the next world cup. But if turbo gets injured again the next year and Staggs or Hammer comes in to replace him for that one game maybe . That means they’ll restart the 3 years stand down all over again. Like I said Australia ain't gonna get hurt at all one bit
 

NRLMad

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Agreed
They also need to give the international game time to grow. If Samoa and Tonga ends up putting out there strongest squad ever, the 3 game series between the 2 nations will be the biggest series in the international stage. Give it a few years for the game to grow and then change the rules don't change it now when it's just starting to take off
 

NRLMad

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Using that same example what if Latrell and Turbo came back fit next year. Staggs and Hammer will be sitting at home with no chance of getting back on the international stage for the rest of their career unless injuries brings them back on or hoping another up and coming star doesn't overtake them. The kangaroos can afford to lose star players because of there depth, they are the only nation in the world to have the luxury.
I agree, surprised no one gets the logic
Australia picks the side they want, irrespective of eligibility or trying to support the game grow.
players shouldn’t be picked a few times and disappear. The young forward for Nth QLD won’t make the side after injuries this year. Yet won’t play for Samoa or Tonga. Luckily tualagi had some sense
 

Perth Red

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You think the current RL system is working?
Generally yes. Fact is RL isnt globally big enough for any other system and to have competitive international tests. Personally I take competitive tests over some hand wringing from a few fans. The current rules work fine.
 

siv

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That still allows those mentioned to switch every year across their career
But only within their heritage & residency countries

Most wont have more than 2 or 3

No one has any issue if you change from Tier 1 to Tier 2. It has helped grow IRL

The issues will occur when you go from

Tier 1 to Tier 1 - which you cant do

Tier 2 to Tier 1
Tier 2 to Tier 2
 

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