RLIF in talks to start US Pro League

[East Coast Tiger]

Huns aren't part of PRO.

Lol, no one is.

 

[Whatwhere]

More than the PRO Vichy players.

Just looked up the League 1 salary cap for 2016. It was only £250,000. That's a little over $308,000 USD. The wage bill for each of the PRO teams was $1.5m a piece. Are you sure they'll be paid more?

 

[Whatwhere]

Lol, no one is.

No, just part ofanother pending pro competition.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Just looked up the League 1 salary cap for 2016. It was only £250,000. That's a little over $308,000 USD. The wage bill for each of the PRO teams was $1.5m a piece. Are you sure they'll be paid more?

Salary cap is £1.85m

And every source I've seen on PRO rugby had salaries at $25k average. So for 30 players that's only $750,000 a team. Oops make that $0.

 

[Whatwhere]

Salary cap is £1.85m

And every source I've seen on PRO rugby had salaries at $25k average. So for 30 players that's only $750,000 a team. Oops make that $0.

No, that's the Championship. Checked that as well.

You seem to be having a bit of difficulty with your calculation. There were 200 players employed across 5 teams. That's 40 players a squad. At the minimum (yes, it was the minimum) that's $1m a team. But not everyone got the minimum. Those who had international caps were paid $35k. Each squad had 7 players under this alloted to them. Then there was the marquees. In which there was 5 each squads. They earned $80,000 each. Just under $1.5m in total.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

No, that's the Championship. Checked that as well.

You seem to be having a bit of difficulty with your calculation. There were 200 players employed across 5 teams. That's 40 players a squad. At the minimum (yes, it was the minimum) that's $1m a team. But not everyone got the minimum. Those who had international caps were paid $35k. Each squad had 7 players under this alloted to them. Then there was the marquees. In which there was 5 each squads. They earned $80,000 each. Just under $1.5m in total.

No. The salary cap for League 1 is £1.85m

And PRO rugby clubs didn't have 40 players. Look up the rosters. They don't even list 30 players in some cases. And every source says $25k as AVERAGE not minimum wage.

Oh dear some fudging going on here. They're much easier to calculate now of course. Player numbers x zero.

 

[Whatwhere]

No. The salary cap for League 1 is £1.85m

And PRO rugby clubs didn't have 40 players. Look up the rosters. They don't even list 30 players in some cases. And every source says $25k as AVERAGE not minimum wage.

Oh dear some fudging going on here. They're much easier to calculate now of course. Player numbers x zero.

Mate, I know people who had some involvement in the league. I'll take their word for it over you determination.

As for the League 1 salary cap. Not according to this document.

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&...eEbKHbaWS3p58dbMQ&sig2=abDDITwlpikIsCfFToTzJQ

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Mate, I know people who had some involvement in the league. I'll take their word for it over you determination.

As for the League 1 salary cap. Not according to this document.

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://media.therfl.co.uk/docs/League%201%20Salary%20Cap%20Regulations%202016_final%20PDF.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjr2JGugIXRAhWL2LwKHcjkAEMQFghpMAg&usg=AFQjCNGDWeKIatmF-eEbKHbaWS3p58dbMQ&sig2=abDDITwlpikIsCfFToTzJQ

Then you're looking at the wrong document.

I think it's the 2016 that gives it away.

Numbers really aren't your thing.

Apparently you "know people" but these people must know why PRO rugby is paying "40 players" but every squad listed is barely 30. These secret, unseen players must be laughing. They're getting paid for nothing. Hang on, no they're not. No merkin is.

 

[Heritage XIII]

Lol...you are proven to be a complete tit and instead of trying to prove otherwise you sling shit. Lol.

I love your "wouldn't wipe the shit of their boots on" comment. Evidence the world over is proving otherwise.

Your the f#$%king idiot coming on here holding up Pro Rugby like it is some giant phallic symbol that'll win you the 'I'm a union troll coming on a league site to stir shit' award & then moronically telling is 'oh well this Pro Rugby may be gone but there are four others waiting in the wings' type bullcrap. Go away you indoctrinated sad little wanker, I don't want to read your bullshit anymore.

 

[Heritage XIII]

Then you're looking at the wrong document.

I think it's the 2016 that gives it away.

Numbers really aren't your thing.

Apparently you "know people" but these people must know why PRO rugby is paying "40 players" but every squad listed is barely 30. These secret, unseen players must be laughing. They're getting paid for nothing. Hang on, no they're not. No merkin is.

East Coast, this guy's a liar & oyxgen thief. He knows people yeah right you 10 year old down practising your future life in your mum's basement loony. F off!

 

[Lockyer4President!]

A Union comp dies spectacularly in the US and the first thing the union trolls do is go into damage control on an Aussie RL forum.

Gotta love the priorities.

 

[IntRLEnthusiast]

The League one and Championship salary cap has been changed so it's a percentage of the money your organisation has.. up to the 1.85 million pound so that clubs can actually compete to make it into super league... It's something like that.. not sure of exact detains but Wolfpack are paying good coin for their team

 

[East Coast Tiger]

East Coast, this guy's a liar & oyxgen thief. He knows people yeah right you 10 year old down practising your future life in your mum's basement loony. F off!

Yeah but it's too funny to leave it alone after all his wank about this pro league and how there's clubs lining up to be in it etc. Two weeks later....gooooooooone.

 

[Whatwhere]

Then you're looking at the wrong document.

I think it's the 2016 that gives it away.

Numbers really aren't your thing.

Apparently you "know people" but these people must know why PRO rugby is paying "40 players" but every squad listed is barely 30. These secret, unseen players must be laughing. They're getting paid for nothing. Hang on, no they're not. No merkin is.

The document is dated for the period of Dec 15 to Nov 16. Which means it covered the last season just past. Please tell me how it's the wrong document. Considering it's published by the RFL I would have thought its source is fairly reputable.

There were 200 players contracted. You may not like but that's the facts. You apparently have never heard of such a thing as squad depth. It's actually a common practice. Maybe not in League but in many sports the world round. The EPL do it, the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLS, La Liga, Bundesliga, Aviva Premiership, Top 14 and many others.

Probably wasn't necessary to do so with PRO but it was their perogative.

 

[Whatwhere]

The League one and Championship salary cap has been changed so it's a percentage of the money your organisation has.. up to the 1.85 million pound so that clubs can actually compete to make it into super league... It's something like that.. not sure of exact detains but Wolfpack are paying good coin for their team

It states that no club can spend anymore that 50% of their salary cap relevant income. Which as far as I can tell is 50% of the income generated from the previous season after submitting a copy of their budget to be scrutinised by the RFL.

 

[Whatwhere]

East Coast, this guy's a liar & oyxgen thief. He knows people yeah right you 10 year old down practising your future life in your mum's basement loony. F off!

I'm not the one spitting the dummy here.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

The document is dated for the period of Dec 15 to Nov 16. Which means it covered the last season just past. Please tell me how it's the wrong document. Considering it's published by the RFL I would have thought its source is fairly reputable.

There were 200 players contracted. You may not like but that's the facts. You apparently have never heard of such a thing as squad depth. It's actually a common practice. Maybe not in League but in many sports the world round. The EPL do it, the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLS, La Liga, Bundesliga, Aviva Premiership, Top 14 and many others.

Probably wasn't necessary to do so with PRO but it was their perogative.

Hmmmmm, let's see. The Wolfpack are playing in 2017. That's why your document is irrelevant.

And you can keep saying 200 players were contracted all you like. These players are invisible. Go to any source, including their own sites, and there is not 40 players listed by any team. It must be a union thing to sign more players than you need and then never mention a quarter of them, almost as if they don't exist.

 

[Whatwhere]

Hmmmmm, let's see. The Wolfpack are playing in 2017. That's why your document is irrelevant.

And you can keep saying 200 players were contracted all you like. These players are invisible. Go to any source, including their own sites, and there is not 40 players listed by any team. It must be a union thing to sign more players than you need and then never mention a quarter of them, almost as if they don't exist.

It demonstrates the salary cap for the past season. While there is an increase set for next season there's a huge difference between £250,000 and £1.85m. That's one hell of a jump for what are largely semi-pro clubs to make.

Squad depth is a professional sports thing. I gave you a number of examples above. It's as simple as that.

 

[LESStar58]

$1 million-odd per team seems about right to scrape the bare minimum of what you could call professional.

You'd want to structure it pretty smartly to avoid unnecessary travel costs in the early stages, but plan for a bigger future if/when the opportunity arises.

Looking at the Union example is valid for ideas, both good and bad. They have 5 teams spread across the country playing 12 rounds. Which is a bit of an ugly format.

I'd start with 6 teams in the east, playing a 10 round home-away:
Ottawa
New York
Philadelphia
Chicago
Atlanta
Jacksonville

The current USARL would continue as an amateur feeder/reserve league.

Gradually introduce western teams as the league can afford to, with the aim of setting up a conference league.

Boston would be a better option than Chicago. The 13s team is established and successful. The Stockyarders, as I understand it, still have some work to do... but I'd throw my support behind a team playing out of my Favourite place in America one of these days!

Aside from that your list is totally on point. Knights, Fight, Rhinos and Jax Axe would be shoe ins!

 

[East Coast Tiger]

It demonstrates the salary cap for the past season. While there is an increase set for next season there's a huge difference between £250,000 and £1.85m. That's one hell of a jump for what are largely semi-pro clubs to make.

Squad depth is a professional sports thing. I gave you a number of examples above. It's as simple as that.

The salary cap for 2017 is £1.85m. What part of that don't you understand? Why would 2016 have any relevance to the Wolfpack?

And your "examples" was a list of proper professional sporting competitions that in no way proves this crap about there being 200 players contracted. Every piece of available evidence says otherwise. Apparently a 15-a-side game needs 40 players to play a grand total of 12 games but only lists 30 players or less. Riiiight.