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RLWC17 QF - Tonga v Cook Islands - 17th October

miguel de cervantes

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feed quality not so good.

all you bandwidth guzzling bastards in HD. I'll make sure nothing is left in the pipeline for the french game later on.
 
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tumbidragon

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Gutsy knock from Kata. Been down for the best part of 15mins with cramping, refused to go off and scores possibly the match winner. Great stuff.
 

langpark

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pretty sure the tryscorer was a mile offside from that kick!

Nevertheless, Tonga have been the better side, so they deserve the win. Good on them!
 

siv

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Tonga through 28-8

Wonder how Niue would have fared if given a chance after they also beat the Cooks 44-22
 

alien

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well that was entertaining, even though there was quite a lot of dropped ball. rang my father and asked him how the live stream was on nrl.com and he said it worked well on HD (720?). i guess some people's internet connections aren't all that good, or more than one person using the same internet connection at their home
 

nzwarriorskuz

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I dont know if anyone has posted but St Helens Academy defeated Wests Tigers Academy 22-18. Levy Nzoungou a Frenchman with Congolese background from Saints was a standout.. huge future ahead. I think the RLIF really need to consider staging an Emerging Nations tournament in 2017 with nations such as the Cook Islands, Niue, Philippines, Malta/ Spain, South Africa, Jamaica/USA/Canada, Italy and Russia.
 

Evil Homer

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I dont know if anyone has posted but St Helens Academy defeated Wests Tigers Academy 22-18. Levy Nzoungou a Frenchman with Congolese background from Saints was a standout.. huge future ahead. I think the RLIF really need to consider staging an Emerging Nations tournament in 2017 with nations such as the Cook Islands, Niue, Philippines, Malta/ Spain, South Africa, Jamaica/USA/Canada, Italy and Russia.
N'Zoungou is a gun, I think he's still only 18 which is crazy given his size. As for an emerging nations tournament, it's a nice idea but realistically a huge cost with very little gain, money is better spent elsewhere.

I would've loved to see Vanuatu, Niue and Solomon Islands involved in the qualifying process instead of just a one-off match.
 

siv

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Do Vanuatu Niue and Solomon Islands meet the domestic qualification guidelinrs ?
 

JasonE

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N'Zoungou is a gun, I think he's still only 18 which is crazy given his size. As for an emerging nations tournament, it's a nice idea but realistically a huge cost with very little gain, money is better spent elsewhere.

I would've loved to see Vanuatu, Niue and Solomon Islands involved in the qualifying process instead of just a one-off match.
Hey EH, I was talking to a couple of the Saints players after the game and they said he is even younger than 18. He was a beast yesterday, amazing physique for his age.
 

morningstar

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Kuki's reaction. Alex Chan has a whinge about eligibility....

http://m.nrl.com/chan-rues-kukis-ineligibility-woes/tabid/10874/newsid/90568/default.aspx


A saddened but equally proud Cook Islands coach Alex Chan has expressed his disappointment in the eligibility laws attached to international rugby league in the aftermath of his team's 28-8 loss to Tonga.

Tonga qualify for 2017 World Cup
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Wheels in motion for Tonga's Cup campaign

With the chance to qualify for the 2017 Rugby League World Cup now shot, Chan's young squad will now have to wait until 2021 to get another potential crack at the big time.

With players such as Dylan Napa and Valentine Holmes among others unable to run out for the Kukis after nominating to represent Australia – Chan has called for the RLIF to reconsider their eligibility laws to help benefit the game's minnows.

A saddened but equally proud Cook Islands coach Alex Chan has expressed his disappointment in the eligibility laws attached to international rugby league in the aftermath of his team's 28-8 loss to Tonga.


With the chance to qualify for the 2017 Rugby League World Cup now shot, Chan's young squad will now have to wait until 2021 to get another potential crack at the big time.

With players such as Dylan Napa and Valentine Holmes among others unable to run out for the Kukis after nominating to represent Australia – Chan has called for the RLIF to reconsider their eligibility laws to help benefit the game's minnows.


He uses Parramatta Eels young gun Tepai Moeroa to further his example.

"The kid [Moeroa] – I really felt for him because he desperately wanted to represent his people. He is such a proud Cook Islander person and his family were so supportive of the whole concept," Chan said.

"But just because of ineligibility we couldn't take the chance due to the possibility of him not being able to play any other rep footy until after the World Cup."

"That's really hamstrung all our second-tier countries. There is an array of players [we could've used]. That team we played out there we could've filled another 17 if we wanted to.

"The profile of this game has really done us justice I think though. Guys are really starting to say I want to play for my people and want to run out on to the field like the boys who did against Tonga."

The proof is in the pudding once seeing Tonga's squad – where they had a whopping 16 players who have or are currently playing top grade rugby league.

Comparatively the Kukis had six players with the same experience – the same number of years they'll have to wait to contest rugby league's biggest stage again.

"We have a big uphill battle now to reclaim our spot back in the World Cup. Six years is a long time to mull over things but in saying that we have a young crop of players here and with the profile we have gained and the exposure we have given these boys, it'll make a lot more put their hand up in the future," Chan said.

"We'll go back, lick our wounds obviously and reassess the situation and now look forward to where we go from here, where we need to go to and hopefully we can scratch up as many games as we can between now and the next World Cup.

"I'm just hoping people are accommodating and we can get some top quality football going."

Considering the experience of his squad Chan was still proud of his team's efforts – with the squad mostly made up of players from Holden Cup, NSW Cup and lower-tier Sydney competitions.

While their 20-point loss may seem major, the score certainly didn't reflect the game that was – with Tonga able to run away with the chocolates in the final 10 minutes of proceedings.

"We didn't leave anything in the tank. They gave everything and that's all we ever wanted from them," Chan said.

"It's just unlucky we didn't get the result we wanted. A good example of words, it is a stride forward.

"We've really attempted to do the impossible going up against a well-experienced Tongan team, with such youth and such inexperience. I'm proud though that the boys showed how proud they are to wear that jersey."
 

morningstar

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Tongan reaction. Two year plan: additional games, sponsorship, income....

http://m.nrl.com/wheels-in-motion-for-tongas-cup-campaign/tabid/10874/newsid/90567/default.aspx

While not as extravagant as Panthers General Manager Phil Gould's five-year plan, Tonga's 28-8 World Cup qualifying win over the Cook Islands on Saturday night offers coach Kristian Woolf a two-year window to build on the team's budding culture.

The ninth team to qualify for the 2017 Rugby League World Cup – with a tenth team to join them in the coming weeks in either Lebanon or South Africa – Tonga coach Woolf is excited by the prospects of the two years ahead particularly in terms of building team culture and enticing potential sponsors.

While their 20-point win over the Kukis isn't a fair reflection of the game that was, Tonga will now head into their fifth World Cup full of confidence

"It means we can sort of plan ahead now for the next couple of years. We know we have the April/May Test against Samoa next year and the year after and obviously we would like to organise a game for this time next year," Woolf said.

"It'll give us some really good momentum and allow us to continue what's already started I suppose. We talk about the Tongan culture, but there's also a footy culture we're starting to build as well.

"It's getting stronger and stronger when you get the same group together and it gives us a chance to keep planning and building on it over the next two years."

"In terms of being able to get some sponsorship and income, we don't get a lot, so it's certainly something we need and something we can plan for a bit better. It's something we can spell to sponsors as well.

"When it first came up [that we had to qualify now] I was certainly thinking two years is a long way out from a World Cup also, but now it's given us a chance to keep building."

Consistency is key for Tonga, and the fact they were able to have nine players back up from their mid-season Test against Samoa to face the Cook Islands excited Woolf.

Considering injuries have decimated New Zealand's touring squad of England, there could've been a further two return for Tonga with Tuimoala Lolohea and Sio Siua Taukeiaho selected for the Kiwis.

"We have a real core group now. Of that crew there are definitely a lot of them who have doubled up in previous years and even from the last World Cup. It's a very young squad still, and some of them have only just turned 21," Woolf said.

"Solomone Kata is a good example. They'll continue to improve in the NRL hopefully and we'll keep a strong nucleus of them together. The tighter we can keep them together, the stronger we'll be."
 

Burns

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Pacific Cup next year. Surely Fiji, Tonga, Samoa and PNG can organise something in the year before World Cup.
 

deluded pom?

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I don't understand Chan's logic about Moeroa. If Lolohea can play for Tonga and NZ in the same year why can't Moeroa play for CI and whoever else he is eligible for?
 

Evil Homer

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I don't understand Chan's logic about Moeroa. If Lolohea can play for Tonga and NZ in the same year why can't Moeroa play for CI and whoever else he is eligible for?
He can. There was nothing stopping any of those blokes from playing for CI in this match, Chan just doesn't know/understand the rules. He has embarrassed himself a bit there.
 

Ryan Chidgey

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My understanding of the eligibility laws is that if you play for one.nation in anyWC qualifying you can then only represent that country at that WC eg. Napa plays for CI yesterday they lose he can not represent Aus in 2017 matches outside qualifiers do not apply
 

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