RLWC2017 Crowd Watch

[morningstar]

what are you babbling about
since when has WC game in England drawn 168K you moron
LOL

We've got a live one here boys...

2013 Eng Opener - 45k
2017 Aus Opener - 23K

2013 Eng R2 - 25k
2017 Aus R2 - 12k

2013 Eng R3 - 25k
2017 Aus R3 - 21k

2013 Eng QF - 23k
2017 Aus QF - 14K

2013 Eng SF - 68K
2017 Aus SF - 22k

Bar Rnd 3, England managed to draw nearly double or over the amount Australia could in the corresponding fixture. Hence 100% more.

Maybe sit the next couple of plays out or get a calculator.

 

[beave]

We've got a live one here boys...

2013 Eng Opener - 45k
2017 Aus Opener - 23K

2013 Eng R2 - 25k
2017 Aus R2 - 12k

2013 Eng R3 - 25k
2017 Aus R3 - 21k

2013 Eng QF - 23k
2017 Aus QF - 14K

2013 Eng SF - 68K
2017 Aus SF - 22k

Bar Rnd 3, England managed to draw nearly double or over the amount Australia could draw in the corresponding fixture. Hence 100% more.

Maybe sit the next couple of plays out or get a calculator.

Pretty sure you need to re-read what he said.......

 

[morningstar]

Pretty sure you need to re-read what he said.......

Some nonsense about a 169k crowd. Which was irrelevant to the point I was making.

 

[DC80]

try 47 years of rarely being challenged
you can still count the number of times the Kiwis have beaten theKangaroos on one hand since 2005
the poms even less

so no
they are absolutely dominant

Such dominance is definitely a problem. It does become mundane.

Keep your 30 creamo, I'll take the three games that matter.

The fact remains the Kangarros can't draw a crowd and it's still pathetic.

The Socceroos got 76,000 at Sydney a few weeks back, and that was just for a FIFA World Cup qualifier not the World Cup itself. The issue as Raiderdave touches upon is Aussie dominance in RL. What is it 9 wins in the last 10 RLWC?

We've got a live one here boys...

2013 Eng Opener - 45k
2017 Aus Opener - 23K

2013 Eng R2 - 25k
2017 Aus R2 - 12k

2013 Eng R3 - 25k
2017 Aus R3 - 21k

2013 Eng QF - 23k
2017 Aus QF - 14K

2013 Eng SF - 68K
2017 Aus SF - 22k

Bar Rnd 3, England managed to draw nearly double or over the amount Australia could in the corresponding fixture. Hence 100% more.

Maybe sit the next couple of plays out or get a calculator.

You can't compare us (England) to Australia though. Because we rarely win - no RLWC or series win over the Aussies in 45 years - we give the international game an elevated status. It's the ultimate for us. It's a draw card. For Australia it's the opposite. State of Origin was created to fill the void of the lack of international competition. Also the RLWC is a level above what we are used to seeing week in week out in the Super League, this isn't the case with NRL followers where it's the opposite.

Providing we beat Tonga a win for us next week against Australia would help the international game. The Aussies would still see it as a blip - like NZ in 2008 - but it would be a good start at making it look more competitive, thus meaningful to Aussies.

 

[insert.pause]

Most Australian fans cheer for their opponents, that promotes apathy.

 

[morningstar]

You can't compare us (England) to Australia though. Because we rarely win - no RLWC or series win over the Aussies in 45 years - we give the international game an elevated status. It's the ultimate for us. It's a draw card. For Australia it's the opposite. State of Origin was created to fill the void of the lack of international competition. Also the RLWC is a level above what we are used to seeing week in week out in the Super League, this isn't the case with NRL followers where it's the opposite.

I disagree. Going back to RLWC2013 from round 2 to the quarter finals England played three tier two nations in a row and got three capacity crowds.

Was that because the standard was higher than a SL game? The scorelines and the respective squads of the opposition would suggest not.

Hand on heart did you expect those kind of crowds pre tournament?

People wanted to see England and the organisers made it in to a must see event for spectators, something the Kangaroos and RLWC17 team have failed miserably at.

 

[DC80]

I disagree. Going back to RLWC2013 from round 2 to the quarter finals England played three tier two nations in a row and got three capacity crowds.

Was that because the standard was higher than a SL game? The scorelines and the respective squads of the opposition would suggest not.

Hand on heart did you expect those kind of crowds pre tournament?

People wanted to see England and the organisers made it in to a must see event for spectators, something the Kangaroos and RLWC17 team have failed miserably at.

What I mean is the RLWC as a whole, not certain individual games against tier two nations, is a step up. England/GB haven't won the tournament or beaten Aus in a series in 45 years, it's become the holy grail. Aussies are going for their 10th RLWC in 12. Lack of competition for the winners reduces the significance of the tournament, the lack of wins increases it for loser. Aus and NZ aren't like anything seen in Super League, plus most of the best English players play in the NRL so there is an added pull to watch England. Aussies are watching the cream in the NRL, and the international team lords it over the tournament. It's a complete contrast between the two nations. The elevated status given to the tournament as a whole in England means games against tier two nations did well in terms of sales.

Also factor in the short distances fans had to travel for games in England. Most of the games were in the heartlands, RL territory that also has a much denser population than Australia. Geographically all 11 English clubs in Super League span just 110 miles. Plus tickets weren't as expensive as Australia.

Games outside the heartlands, two involved Australia in Ireland and Wales which had 5k at both games. Bristol had 7k. In terms of interest in the heartlands and for England internationals the tournament was a success, outside that though it was disappointing. This tournament with PNG and Tonga has added more depth of interest than the last one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Rugby_League_World_Cup#Attendances

 

[Perth Red]

Would suggest that the damage to the game in the eyes of casual fans and aspiring young footballers is bigger than the money grab!

Lol, in two months this will be forgotten and they’ll be back to talking about origin! The legacy is how much money it can make for international development. By time next RLWC is here it will be 2029 and no one will care if t(etc was 20k or 40k at Suncorp today.

 

[Perth Red]

we're talking about what aussies will watch dummy
it aint the 3rd rung of our code in this country ....

No the comment was made that Australians didn’t turn up because it wasn’t a competitive match up, I clearly showed that they do for other codes, like I said it must be a RL thing. But we know that it doesn’t take much for your avg RL fan to stay home and watch it on tv.

 

[Perth Red]

Tickets were clearly too expensive from game one onwards!

You sound like a stuck record! Tiickets weren’t expensive for the pool games,
Ticket prices for the major games have been set to maximise revenue, not maximise crowds. It’s not hard to understand!

 

[Perth Red]

Origin isn’t the pinnacle of our code. Nrl players rate winning a gf above origin and players from other countries can’t okay origin. RL is bigger than a game between 2 states.

Yep, ask the kiwis or poms in the nrl if origin is the pinnacle of playing lol. Origin just shows how small our sport is in this country, nswrl with a smattering of qland clubs.

 

[Perth Red]

22073 was the crowd (nrl.com)

22k @$100 a ticket plus the $’s qland paid to host it. Nice money on the bank for the rlif work over the next 4 years. Shame kangaroos are so low key in Australia they couldnt draw more but good profit made for the game today.

 

[Perth Red]

We've got a live one here boys...

2013 Eng Opener - 45k
2017 Aus Opener - 23K

2013 Eng R2 - 25k
2017 Aus R2 - 12k

2013 Eng R3 - 25k
2017 Aus R3 - 21k

2013 Eng QF - 23k
2017 Aus QF - 14K

2013 Eng SF - 68K
2017 Aus SF - 22k

Bar Rnd 3, England managed to draw nearly double or over the amount Australia could in the corresponding fixture. Hence 100% more.

Maybe sit the next couple of plays out or get a calculator.

But but but, origin blah blah

 

[DC80]

No the comment was made that Australians didn’t turn up because it wasn’t a competitive match up, I clearly showed that they do for other codes, like I said it must be a RL thing. But we know that it doesn’t take much for your avg RL fan to stay home and watch it on tv.

They don't turn up in international RL due to lack of competition. They do turn up for other codes as there is competition. Lack of competition for Australia is a RL thing.

Us beating Tonga and then Australia may just add some competition and make it more meaningful to Aussies.

 

[deluded pom?]

They don't turn up in international RL due to lack of competition. They do turn up for other codes as there is competition. Lack of competition for Australia is a RL thing.

What was the attendance when Australia played Namibia when the RWC was held in Australia? That was a really competitive match.

 

[playdaball]

What was the attendance when Australia played Namibia when the RWC was held in Australia? That was a really competitive match.

17500

 

[Stallion]

You sound like a stuck record! Tiickets weren’t expensive for the pool games,
Ticket prices for the major games have been set to maximise revenue, not maximise crowds. It’s not hard to understand!

Amazing! You still are defending the ridiculous prices! $155 for catA seats in the opener with a 2/3 full stadium! Over $70 for behind the goal seats along with over $100 for sideline seats for last night's semi final against a minow /developing rugby league nation with a 2/5 full stadium on free to air tv? If you don't think such prices were over the top then you are deluded PR or drunk whilst creating your dismissive ticket price rants. I have repeatedly mentioned the high ticket prices for this tournament as they were clearly inappropriate for the market. Instead of appealing to the masses the rugby league world cup ticket pricing has failed in making this world cup a highly attended event. Simple as that. Had the crowds been high I would have gladly ate humble pie and agreed that the ticket prices were appropriate . However this has clearly not happened! Take the medicine and cop it on the chin PR. I take no joy in many of us clearly identifying a major issue for this world cup in inappropriate ticket pricing but it has occured and the code needs to learn from this or the same mistake will be repeated again and again till the enbarassment leads to continued rudicule and embarrassment of this great code.

 

[deluded pom?]

17500

And the rest.

 

[Irish-bulldog]

Anyway people hows today’s game tracking ?.

 

[Stallion]

Lol, in two months this will be forgotten and they’ll be back to talking about origin! The legacy is how much money it can make for international development. By time next RLWC is here it will be 2029 and no one will care if t(etc was 20k or 40k at Suncorp today.

Apathy, ignorance and poor business accumen are covered in glory in your logic! This is about a football code that needs to establish itself and grow in the international sports market and you think half empty stadiums have nothing to do with pricing? Please accept the obvious! Not only the bad look for the code? An opportunity to gain more presence/turnover by merchandise sales that goes with well attended events has been lost! Your stance reeks of poor sports and business accumen. I'm starting to think you are a character out of Monty Python!