Robson Eels No.7

[Springs]

I think you're missing the point. Every player has their limits. Otherwise every player would be the same level. Even from junior ages as young as 6 or 7 there's always the talented kids and the not so talented kids in the one side. They may try as hard, but some just more natural ability than others. Mortimor was born into a footy family and no doubt learned a lot from his father and uncles since a very young age. But what he learns will only take him so far. At this stage he's done well play first grade, but whether he's a career first grader remains to be seen. We may have seen the best of his ability already.

At that young age the good players are just the players that can either run the fastest or are the biggest (hardest to tackle). Usually the players with dominant personalities are chosen to be halves. Now things like speed and size are usually inherited, but playing halfback is a skill acquired over time.
I don't think there is such a thing as a talent limit or being a 'natural halfback' or whatever. But I could be wrong.

 

[caylo]

At that young age the good players are just the players that can either run the fastest or are the biggest (hardest to tackle). Usually the players with dominant personalities are chosen to be halves. Now things like speed and size are usually inherited, but playing halfback is a skill acquired over time.
I don't think there is such a thing as a talent limit or being a 'natural halfback' or whatever. But I could be wrong.

I disagree, I went to school with cameron speechly (his uncle and father played for newtwn in the early 80). From a young age the kid could kick, pass and run like when his mates where still learning basics. The kid was 4 foot and not overly quick, but it was his speed off the mark and footwork which made him stand out plus his ability acurate short kicking game.
Eventually he was out muscled and never grew enough to make and made some dumb choices so never made the big time.

There are alot of quick agile players, its the ones who know how to use their skills and have vision stand out.

 

[Eelementary]

So according to you Nathan Hindmarsh is super talented?

I idolise the guy, but talented he sure isn't...Compared to Mateo or SBW or Lewis.
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First and foremost Hindy has many talents, his strength and pace allowed him to break tackles early in his football days and be know as one of the best ball running backrower along with Tallis. Biological testing showed that Hindmarsh brothers had the capacity to tolerated alot more lactic acid in their bodies then normal well conditioned athletes.

Genes or Natural talents plays an important role in life as well as all sports, african american and aboriginal men have the higher % of fast twitch muscles which are very difficult to aquire even with a alot of training meaning they can run faster and jump higher. People that live in the himalayas have a higher level of EPO because of the decrease in oxygen concentration and have better aerobic conditioning, etc etc etc.

All NRL players have some skills and some work harder then other but it is a combination of them both that makes a player reach great hights. Look at Vatuvi at his best and worst, or Toopi at his best or worst, these guys are amoung the most talented players when they work hard because they have important assests for their positions but they can tend to slack off and it go pear shaped. Halves are the same, if mortimer makes it anywhere in this game it will be because of his work ethic not his natural ability but that same lack of ability compared to Scott Prince or JT means that he will be limited what he can achieve. Someone like Prince gets where he was because of his ability and work ethic while someone like T.Smith gets a shot because of his skills but stagnates due to his work ethic.

Hindy, much as we love him, has not been a linebreaking back-rower for years. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's true. The statement that he's not all that talented stands. Hindy's biggest attributes are his heart (both literally and figuratively) and work ethic.