Discussion in 'NRL' started by God-King Dean, May 26, 2019.
What don't you understand about penalties received?
I understand that it's makes you feel like everything is against the roosters.
I never said that.
How would you explain the statistic? Perhaps it is just an outlier? An oddity of statistics.
The adversity that the Roosters have to put up with
All this shows is that it's been a deliberate tactic of the Roosters to give away penalties when defending their own line since 2008.
You give away a penalty any time your defensive line is stretched or rushed inside the ten. It gives you the chance to reset again against a set start, plus it frustrates the opposition because they never really get a roll on. Eventually, if they've had enough tackles with the ball in your 10 and they haven't scored, they start to feel the pressure of the whole situation and then they start to take stupid risks because they feel that they really should have scored with all the ball that they've had.
Roosters woke up to this tactic much earlier than all the other teams but quite a few of them have started to copy it now.
If you broke down penalty stats and excluded penalties given away when defending your own line, I'm sure the Roosters would compare much more favorably with the rest of the competition.
It's a conspiracy. The NRL sat down and said 'How can we oppress rooster's fans?' And the plan they came up with was to give the club less penalties.
Or its a statistical anomaly that certain roosters fans have jumped on so they can feel like victims.
I would lean towards the latter.
It is quite the outlier though.
It’s gotten to the farcical situation that Roosters players are screaming at the ref to penalise them.
This should be an immediate 10mins in the bin, I don’t give a f**k what salty tears Fittler, Gould and Johns cry about their beloved Roosters.
MOGGA! Make Our Game Great Again!
Don’t get defensive mate most neutral nrl fans regard the 2014 refs treatment of Souffs as the benchmark in positive bias towards a team. #premiers #enjoyingtheshade
Again you offer one example and ignore the fact that every other team does it in just about every game. Try again
I stopped reading as soon as I realised that you don’t understand that those stats are about penalties that we don’t receive. Do you get it? It’s the penalties that we don’t control. We play the same teams as everyone else yet miraculously over more than a decade all those teams concede less penalties when playing us. Do you get it know or should I slow it down more for you?
Just as most neutral supporters think you guys cheat the cap. Besides penalties didn't matter when Walker showed up your team in round 1. #26-16
A deliberate tactic, with different playing groups under 3 different coaches? Yeah, doing the same thing time after time and expecting a different result always works eh?!
C'mon mate, that assertion defies logic, and I know you are not foolish.
To try and be serious for a second, I think the Roosters style of play largely contributes to their lack of penalties. The majority of penalties are awarded around the ruck. In attack they play very up-tempo, often surrendering in tackles in order to get a quick play-the-ball. They don't often fight in the ruck, flailing around like a fish out of water looking for a penalty. Their stars have been their halves and backs and they work to get them early ball in good field positions. It works for them.
On the other hand - to use my team as an example - Souths game over the last decade has been very forward-oriented. Our forward pack has been star-studded, with largely average backlines (save for GI). Unlike the Roosters, if you shut down our forward pack you shut down Souths, so opposition teams often push the line in order to achieve this, resulting in more penalties being given away.
Either that, or it's just an anomaly, or referee bias, or the Roosters are just a bunch of unlikeable gits. You choose.
True but that is based on assumptions and innuendo your 2014 penalty record is a statistical fact. No they didn’t matter in round 1 and round 1 won’t matter in October.
I can't say that this statement is wrong over the 10 year period in question but this exercise was done in 2013 when the whinge about roosters apparently deliberately giving away penalties was first raised and it was disproven with the vast majority of penalties against us being in the opposition half.
it's a victim mentality and we all know the result of round 1 has mattered over the years.
That is penalties for not conceded? So it isn't penalties the Roosters concede but rather the penalties they get?
And it is a bizarre statistic tbh.
That's the thing. There is no 50-50 stat.
Such adversity. This club needs to be given a fair go at competing with rest. A leg up of some sort.
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