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Round 18 v Broncos

Aliceinwonderland

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No they haven't. Wingers did sweet FA not that long ago


It was the 2020 season when Ivan and his coaching staffs implemented this type of play.

It was unheard of until then. It was designed to give the forwards a 'mini' break when coming out of the back field, giving them a chance to save their energies for basically defence and scramble.

Teddy hasn't been able to maintain the week in week out heavy dusty stats, whilst maintaining his scramble in defence, and support in attack. Whilst also setting up the defensive lines.

This also began in 2020, and is one of the big reasons for Penrith's success. Also designed by the coaching staffs to bring out Pickles's strengths.
 

Aliceinwonderland

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The Back 5 had always been expected to do that. To'o just has thick as f**k legs and hips so he's strong with the runs so he does it better.

What Ivan and coaching staffs designed and implemented in 2020 has changed the way the ball is taken from the kick off.

I can remember commentators almost in denial about what was happening. No forwards carting the ball out of the back field. Left to the backs.
 

WestyLife

First Grade
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It was the 2020 season when Ivan and his coaching staffs implemented this type of play.

It was unheard of until then. It was designed to give the forwards a 'mini' break when coming out of the back field, giving them a chance to save their energies for basically defence and scramble.

Teddy hasn't been able to maintain the week in week out heavy dusty stats, whilst maintaining his scramble in defence, and support in attack. Whilst also setting up the defensive lines.

This also began in 2020, and is one of the big reasons for Penrith's success. Also designed by the coaching staffs to bring out Pickles's strengths.

As a teenage winger/fullback we were coached to do it 20 years ago. Ivan didn't invent it. Every winger is expected to do it some are just better than others.
 

Luke Bowden

First Grade
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My Opinion:
Bizza is an absolute freak of a player, arguably will be the best winger ever, not because he changed anything, he’s just better.

Brett Morris is probably his main rival… Man he was good and so consistent…
 

WestyLife

First Grade
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My Opinion:
Bizza is an absolute freak of a player, arguably will be the best winger ever, not because he changed anything, he’s just better.

Brett Morris is probably his main rival… Man he was good and so consistent…

No contest he's a freak in the best way. Love him.
 

Kilkenny

Coach
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My Opinion:
Bizza is an absolute freak of a player, arguably will be the best winger ever, not because he changed anything, he’s just better.

Brett Morris is probably his main rival… Man he was good and so consistent…
Different wingers over the years have offered different strengths. To’o has obviously benefited from playing in a side who have made four consecutive Grand Finals, the best winger of all time is a big call. Recency bias plays a big part in such a call, brilliant player, fits our needs needs entirely not sure about the best ever.
 

Aliceinwonderland

First Grade
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As a teenage winger/fullback we were coached to do it 20 years ago. Ivan didn't invent it. Every winger is expected to do it some are just better than others.

If that was the case, why wasn't it rampant throughout the NRL prior to 2020, and Penrith doing it. ?
 

hindy111

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There haven't been. Blake Ferguson had one season where he got the closest but besides that no one else was really close.

The game changed but. Forwards where making more meters then now. Sides use their backs more to keep forwards fresher in defense. Most sides do it now.
 

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