Round 20 v Bulldogs

[Ghostrider22]

Atkins was the video ref. The same bloke who claimed the kick off didnt go 10 against the sharks.

The ref said try for Sloan’s first but Atkins said no.
the ref ruled knock on by Kiraz and the dogs challenged and again Atkins went against the dragons.
Atkins has an issue with the dragons. He is the new Steve Clark, and what a dog of a thing he was.

So does Andrew Gee and Sutton, Klien and Luke Patten

 

[Texmex]

Yea

If Gutherson had not done the short drop out but kicked 50 meters might have been a different result. I didn’t think any team could do worse but then poor old Knights this afternoon. When the footie gods are against you……

Yeah and how much was Gould and John’s bleating about the poor knights and the bunker - you can’t have it both ways Gus!

 

[epDragon62]

I clearly watched a different game. Sloan made 1 mistake all night, and dealt with a few tough situations pretty well before that. He is our only player with dangerous speed. The referee and bunker made quite a few bad calls and were far more detrimental. The boys olayed One of the favourite in their own kennel and but for a poor last 3 minutes almost derailed their season.

Fair call.

 

[thebigredv]

It hurts watching that vision of Sloan coming in with basically 2 minutes on the clock...our wingers have been doing this for years but as much as it is frustrating he did in effect score two tries, it's not his fault that the bunker had it in for us all match, again when Crichton knocked it on into Sloan, again when Kiraz didn't get to his feet....almost as blatantly awful as his 'forward pass try v Raiders.

It's been a horrible year for us and for Sloan but I have to give him a pass mark for that game.

 

[jeffdragon]

News Nrl to back officials on decisions on game.
On SKY SPORTS RADIO.
Friggin typical.

 

[Lovemedragons]

I can see your argument but I’m taking the risk of a a low percentage 2 point field goal and golden point over the risk of giving one of the best teams in the comp a free hit at the stumps with 3 minutes to go. We’re just as bad at short drop outs as we are at golden point. The history of the Dragons I’ve watched over the last 15 years suggests we both fail to get the ball back from the short kick and also fail to defend our line. It’s just what the Dragons do. And that’s exactly what happened. I can bet my house on this team failing in situations like that.

Once a team is beaten constantly into a losing mindset it’s bloody hard to get out of it. just keep showing up like you have over the past few weeks and the tide will eventually turn. I look forward to 2026 with a new half and with the rawness knocked off the promising younger ones we started in 2025.

 

[St Tangles]

News Nrl to back officials on decisions on game.
On SKY SPORTS RADIO.
Friggin typical.

Of course

Different interpretations for different clubs

 

[SGMax]

No mention of Mahoneys try where he used one of his players as a shield and Sua couldn't get at him to tackle him because of said shield. At the time he scored, I remembered thinking gee that was too easy. Then I saw the replay and it was so obvious.
Last week we had one of those pulled up on the halfway mark when Finau raced away.

The bunker "Try Confirmed" appeared before the first replay had completed.
I know the bunker looks at different screens but geez that was a rushed call.

 

[Old Timer]

Indeed the refereeing was poor and blatantly wrong at critical moments which influenced the result but we were complicit in creating some of those circumstances and ultimately responsible for the loss.

Poor discipline, poor decision making, poor defence, poor selections all things within our control that yet again led us to a loss in what was a totally winnable game.

The short drop out with a couple of minutes on the clock and the resultant last minute try is all on us.

Short drop outs have been costly to us over the years and our right side defensive alignment has been piss poor for years regardless of who was on the wing.

The Hunt, Sua, Lomax, Rava was shit as was Hunt, Sua, Suli, Lomax or any other variations of the above.

Someone suggesting that the long drop out was not used to avoid a 2 point field goal by Burton is simply ridiculous thinking.

The notion that we were tired and defending close to our line was easier is equally as ridiculous.

I also find it ridiculous that one minute we have the worst roster in the comp, are nothing more than spoon contenders that not even Bennett & Bellamy could do any better with then the next minute we are a team of effort that has been f**ked over by refs otherwise we would be in the top 8.

Evidently we can be both according to this place.

Our roster is not great but far better than spoon quality but alas they have not been coached out of all the things that they do that ultimately and repeatedly cost us games.

For all the different views re Galvin in the end a couple of key moments for him in the game, he iced them and got them to a win so who are we to be so critical of him when he did what our key playmakers can’t?

 

[Flinstone]

Ref/bunker decisions at a critical time didn't help us and just made it harder to win.
Somehow our average forward pack matched the dogs and the effort was there.

On the other hand, I think some of our end of sets and kick pressure on bombs was poor.
Conner Tracey catches the ball, did we smash him once ? how often did a player jump and compete for the ball on attack.
Kyle had a few bad kicks and it just looks worse when Burton is finding touch 40-50m down field.

Given the team available and the two teams on paper prior to kick off I thought we are no chance of wining.
A combination of refereeing and our own doing again a game we should of won.
Lets hope they don't give up and continue to push for the Win.

Note the last 4 games of the round were all decided in the final minutes of the game, 3 of the top 4 sides involved.
It's not just the Dragons that cant close out a game.

 

[JamesRustle]

Horrendous man

I know Hunt had to go, but just imagine if he shifted his attitude and stayed, we win 4 or if not more of those 8x games.. that’s what any decent half can our team do..

BEN HUNT - CLUTCH HALF.... 1 FG in 345 games and 405 points in 345 games (avg point per game = 1.17.... 1.14 in the Red V)... Win % of 49.57%... 42.18% in the Red V. He may have helped us win 1 or 2 of the 5 games we have lost by a try or less, but he doesn't carry the team on his back to play finals.

 

[KogarahWarrior]

Also pisses me off how there was 0 repercussions or any sort of investigation for Crichton literally eye gouging Finau when he put the ball down. If that was one of our guys he'd be out for the rest of the year.

 

[maestro1]

Indeed the refereeing was poor and blatantly wrong at critical moments which influenced the result but we were complicit in creating some of those circumstances and ultimately responsible for the loss.

Poor discipline, poor decision making, poor defence, poor selections all things within our control that yet again led us to a loss in what was a totally winnable game.

The short drop out with a couple of minutes on the clock and the resultant last minute try is all on us.

Short drop outs have been costly to us over the years and our right side defensive alignment has been piss poor for years regardless of who was on the wing.

The Hunt, Sua, Lomax, Rava was shit as was Hunt, Sua, Suli, Lomax or any other variations of the above.

Someone suggesting that the long drop out was not used to avoid a 2 point field goal by Burton is simply ridiculous thinking.

The notion that we were tired and defending close to our line was easier is equally as ridiculous.

I also find it ridiculous that one minute we have the worst roster in the comp, are nothing more than spoon contenders that not even Bennett & Bellamy could do any better with then the next minute we are a team of effort that has been f**ked over by refs otherwise we would be in the top 8.

Evidently we can be both according to this place.

Our roster is not great but far better than spoon quality but alas they have not been coached out of all the things that they do that ultimately and repeatedly cost us games.

For all the different views re Galvin in the end a couple of key moments for him in the game, he iced them and got them to a win so who are we to be so critical of him when he did what our key playmakers can’t?

All teams make mistakes but not all teams make mistakes PLUS continually have to overcome ref, touchy and bunker clanger f**kups. Kiraz fxcked up, but the bunker made his fxckup a penalty for him. Kikau knocked the ball into Sloan and Adam Gee gave him 6 again. I'm waiting for the rub of the green to even up for us. I'm not holding my breath.
How many clangers against us ......
* Ezra Mam forward passes to Shibasaki .... clanger
* Suli "forward" pass to Sloan vs Raiders .... clanger.
* Kiraz play the ball ..... clanger
* Kikau knock on ..... clanger
* 2 forward passes from Dogs in Rd 1 ....... clangers
* Tedescho pass to Radley last week .... clanger
* Douhei 3m offside for tap back of kick in magic round .... clanger

Our errors are actually on the lower side for NRL teams

 

[maestro1]

The bunker "Try Confirmed" appeared before the first replay had completed.
I know the bunker looks at different screens but geez that was a rushed call.

Exactly. Did the bunker actually look at it or was it like the Magic Round where Adam Douhei was 3m off side when he tapped the ball back for a team mate to score. The bunker did not even look for players in front of the kicker in that instant. It is their process to check for offside for tries scored from kicks. Douhie was shaking hands with our defence before the kick was launched.

 

[Old Timer]

All teams make mistakes but not all teams make mistakes PLUS continually have to overcome ref, touchy and bunker clanger f**kups. Kiraz fxcked up, but the bunker made his fxckup a penalty for him. Kikau knocked the ball into Sloan and Adam Gee gave him 6 again. I'm waiting for the rub of the green to even up for us. I'm not holding my breath.
How many clangers against us ......
* Ezra Mam forward passes to Shibasaki .... clanger
* Suli "forward" pass to Sloan vs Raiders .... clanger.
* Kiraz play the ball ..... clanger
* Kikau knock on ..... clanger
* 2 forward passes from Dogs in Rd 1 ....... clangers
* Tedescho pass to Radley last week .... clanger
* Douhei 3m offside for tap back of kick in magic round .... clanger

Our errors are actually on the lower side for NRL teams

Leilua should not have had his hands on Kiraz. Left hand clearly on the elbow near the ball his right hand on the middle of Kiraz’s back as he tries to get up. Laziness in the ruck has cost us many times and it did yet again.

More evidence that Sloan knocks a fair pass forward than Kikau passing it into Sloan so play on for mine.

Even if I’m wrong on both counts then we still f**ked up with a bad drop out and Sloan rushing in off his wing.

It was within our power to win the game and 2 bad options from us saw us lose the game.

Many people in here praising SF for the close losses where I am of the opinion that losing all those close games highlights a major flaw in his coaching.

 

[I'm Hornby]

Our errors are actually on the lower side for NRL teams

Rubbish, we are equal 11th in the comp for completion rate. You really have no clue.

 

[Trifili13]

Agree OT that it might have been a bit of laziness on Leilua's part but did it really cause Kiraz to lose his balance or stop him from getting to his feet to play the ball. How many times have you seen Kiraz or any other player carry 2 or 3 tacklers and they still can't get them to the ground yet a player basically resting their arm on their back suddenly is too much force and they can't get up. Maybe it's the 1 red and 1 white eye that I am seeing this incident but do you honestly think if it was the other way around the bunker would have overturned the onfield decision of lost ball?

 

[maestro1]

Leilua should not have had his hands on Kiraz. Left hand clearly on the elbow near the ball his right hand on the middle of Kiraz’s back as he tries to get up. Laziness in the ruck has cost us many times and it did yet again.

More evidence that Sloan knocks a fair pass forward than Kikau passing it into Sloan so play on for mine.

Even if I’m wrong on both counts then we still f**ked up with a bad drop out and Sloan rushing in off his wing.

It was within our power to win the game and 2 bad options from us saw us lose the game.

Many people in here praising SF for the close losses where I am of the opinion that losing all those close games highlights a major flaw in his coaching.

All season and last season, if any player plays the ball without being upright and in control, the defending team gains possession. It happened to Kyle against Canberra and every weekend for the last 2 seasons at least. Suddenly, this weekend it isn't the players responsibility to play the ball with control. Kiraz was almost horizontal when he went to play the ball. Sloan did not play at that ball. He jammed Kikau who momentarily lost control of the ball, it hit Sloan. Knock on every day....until it isn't

 

[hook hook]

Indeed the refereeing was poor and blatantly wrong at critical moments which influenced the result but we were complicit in creating some of those circumstances and ultimately responsible for the loss.

Poor discipline, poor decision making, poor defence, poor selections all things within our control that yet again led us to a loss in what was a totally winnable game.

The short drop out with a couple of minutes on the clock and the resultant last minute try is all on us.

Short drop outs have been costly to us over the years and our right side defensive alignment has been piss poor for years regardless of who was on the wing.

The Hunt, Sua, Lomax, Rava was shit as was Hunt, Sua, Suli, Lomax or any other variations of the above.

Someone suggesting that the long drop out was not used to avoid a 2 point field goal by Burton is simply ridiculous thinking.

The notion that we were tired and defending close to our line was easier is equally as ridiculous.

I also find it ridiculous that one minute we have the worst roster in the comp, are nothing more than spoon contenders that not even Bennett & Bellamy could do any better with then the next minute we are a team of effort that has been f**ked over by refs otherwise we would be in the top 8.

Evidently we can be both according to this place.

Our roster is not great but far better than spoon quality but alas they have not been coached out of all the things that they do that ultimately and repeatedly cost us games.

For all the different views re Galvin in the end a couple of key moments for him in the game, he iced them and got them to a win so who are we to be so critical of him when he did what our key playmakers can’t?

We get it you hate Flanagan. BTW, how are the Bennett-led Souths doing?

 

[Old Timer]

We get it you hate Flanagan. BTW, how are the Bennett-led Souths doing?

Shithouse why do you ask?