Round 24 V The Warriors

[franklin2323]

Royce had a decent length coaching stint. He should be used more

 

[tripster]

It is crazy to think, looking at those photos, that Alexander is only 53. He looks like he is 70 (albeit an agile 70 year old).

 

[unKwn]

hopefully egan benefits from royce

 

[OldPanther]

Where is my final word with Ciro?

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

It is crazy to think, looking at those photos, that Alexander is only 53. He looks like he is 70 (albeit an agile 70 year old).

Surely you jest.

 

[tripster]

Beale out and Hiku into the starting side. That’s great news for us. Hopefully he still has nightmares of marking up against Kikau. He was a massive part of the reason why the Warriors lost last time we played them.

 

[Whino]

Beale out and Hiku into the starting side. That’s great news for us. Hopefully he still has nightmares of marking up against Kikau. He was a massive part of the reason why the Warriors lost last time we played them.

All runs through Hiku. Now we just need Peach to pass left.

 

[billypilgrimnz]

It feels a bit better making fun of Hiku for being a shit tackler given that Maloney, who has 46 MORE missed tackles than the second worst tackler in the comp this year, is out.

(1. Maloney: 144, 2. Ben Hunt: 98)

 

[TheFrog]

It feels a bit better making fun of Hiku for being a shit tackler given that Maloney, who has 46 MORE missed tackles than the second worst tackler in the comp this year, is out.

(1. Maloney: 144, 2. Ben Hunt: 98)

Do you happen to have last year's figures? Was he bought at $800k a year to be a tackling powerhouse?

 

[mxlegend99]

Maloney was the worst defender in the league when we signed him. Although Hiku was probably the worst defensive centre when Warriors signed him too.

The only new development this year is Hikus defence single handedly won us a game.

 

[billypilgrimnz]

Do you happen to have last year's figures? Was he bought at $800k a year to be a tackling powerhouse?

2017 figures from here https://www.theroar.com.au/2017/10/05/the-statistical-review-nrl-season-2017/

The side that missed the most tackles in 2017 was the Penrith Panthers with 859 at 33 a game.

The leading missed tacklers for the year are as follows:
• Apisai Koroisau – 103
• James Maloney – 101
• Ethan Lowe – 100
• Mitchell Moses – 90
• Matt Gillett – 87

So we had the worst defence in terms of missed tackles last season, so we thought it would be a good idea to buy the second worst tackler of that season and somehow make him even worse by 50%? Interesting tactic.

I mean, it's not the be all and end all, but I remember a few on here being happy that Moylan never got a real shot at 6 or that he got shunted out because apparently he couldn't tackle. Well.....

 

[herbert henry1908]

It feels a bit better making fun of Hiku for being a shit tackler given that Maloney, who has 46 MORE missed tackles than the second worst tackler in the comp this year, is out.

(1. Maloney: 144, 2. Ben Hunt: 98)

Jesus, that is bad.

I’d be interested to know if it accelerated when he’s was carying injuries.

I hope we can somehow convince him to retire from rep footy next year, but given he likes the coin we might struggle to do that.

Maloney is the only play we had when Moylan wanted out, I would’ve preferred to keep Matt but what are you going to do?

 

[PenrithPanther45]

Jesus, that is bad.

I’d be interested to know if it accelerated when he’s was carying injuries.

I hope we can somehow convince him to retire from rep footy next year, but given he likes the coin we might struggle to do that.

Maloney is the only play we had when Moylan wanted out, I would’ve preferred to keep Matt but what are you going to do?

Maloney has come up with a lot of bad misses ie. the one on Don v Gold Coast or plenty against Canberra that almost and at times did lead to tries.

However, CK from NRL.com wrote a very interesting article on how a fair amount of JM's missed tackles are him putting hits on and stopping momentum of the attacker but technically not completing the tackle.

The article is here: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/05/23/stat-attack-are-james-maloneys-missed-tackles-a-myth/

 

[PenrithPanther45]

1-17 tonight. Katoa 18th man.

 

[franklin2323]

Maloney has come up with a lot of bad misses ie. the one on Don v Gold Coast or plenty against Canberra that almost and at times did lead to tries.

However, CK from NRL.com wrote a very interesting article on how a fair amount of JM's missed tackles are him putting hits on and stopping momentum of the attacker but technically not completing the tackle.

The article is here: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/05/23/stat-attack-are-james-maloneys-missed-tackles-a-myth/

Yeah stats don't show the true story

 

[herbert henry1908]

Maloney has come up with a lot of bad misses ie. the one on Don v Gold Coast or plenty against Canberra that almost and at times did lead to tries.

However, CK from NRL.com wrote a very interesting article on how a fair amount of JM's missed tackles are him putting hits on and stopping momentum of the attacker but technically not completing the tackle.

The article is here: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/05/23/stat-attack-are-james-maloneys-missed-tackles-a-myth/

Yeah have seen that before and I think he makes a good point. But post origin I’ve seen a lot of just straight misses from Maloney, he’s been playing injured and should’ve been rested. Add in the intercepts and it’s been a bad period.

 

[TheFrog]

2017 figures from here https://www.theroar.com.au/2017/10/05/the-statistical-review-nrl-season-2017/

The side that missed the most tackles in 2017 was the Penrith Panthers with 859 at 33 a game.

The leading missed tacklers for the year are as follows:
• Apisai Koroisau – 103
• James Maloney – 101
• Ethan Lowe – 100
• Mitchell Moses – 90
• Matt Gillett – 87

So we had the worst defence in terms of missed tackles last season, so we thought it would be a good idea to buy the second worst tackler of that season and somehow make him even worse by 50%? Interesting tactic.

I mean, it's not the be all and end all, but I remember a few on here being happy that Moylan never got a real shot at 6 or that he got shunted out because apparently he couldn't tackle. Well.....

That was what I was getting at. He was bought in full knowledge of his issues. If his missed tackles were costing us heaps of games you'd have to say poor coaching but they didn't cost us all that many, just like at the Sharks.

 

[OldPanther]

Maloney has come up with a lot of bad misses ie. the one on Don v Gold Coast or plenty against Canberra that almost and at times did lead to tries.

However, CK from NRL.com wrote a very interesting article on how a fair amount of JM's missed tackles are him putting hits on and stopping momentum of the attacker but technically not completing the tackle.

The article is here: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/05/23/stat-attack-are-james-maloneys-missed-tackles-a-myth/

That was what I was getting at. He was bought in full knowledge of his issues. If his missed tackles were costing us heaps of games you'd have to say poor coaching but they didn't cost us all that many, just like at the Sharks.

Before origin that applied but not so much recently due to injury. I hope he retires from rep footy next year and just gives Panthers 110%

 

[PenrithPanther45]

Before origin that applied but not so much recently due to injury. I hope he retires from rep footy next year and just gives Panthers 110%

100% agree with what you both said. His missed tackles now seem to be just that - missed tackles rather than hits. I remember vividly his game against NQL in Round 3 where he smashed Hess. We need him rested and back with that sort of tenacity.

 

[billypilgrimnz]

We are a terribly disciplined side.