Round 3 v Mel

[Aliceinwonderland]

Bret Sch probably because he's solid defensively.

From what I understand Milky is taller. Had a good game last weekend. Caught everything that moved.

I'm happy either way.

 

[Luke Bowden]

Let’s Go Milky!!!! Yeah boy!

 

[Panfa]

Schneider had a good game on Saturday that's why he got the call up,Jenkins had a cracker game playing centre set up kepoa for 3 tries he had to replace McLean.Surely papalii comes in for eisenhuth

 

[Black Panther]

Toelau outplayed Schneider on Saturday, looked far more dangerous.

 

[West Nowra Panther]

I think with more time together, our new players/combinations for 2025 will get it right, we just have to finish in the top 8 (preferably top 4).

The attitude problems that were evident on Friday will be fixed and obviously the boys will be prepared for Melbourne.

Now hearing NAS is free to be selected for the Storm, that's at least 3 penalties for us. He must be a nightmare to coach.

The first 2 rounds have proven to me that the Eels, Dragons, Cowboys and Titans are still applying the definition of insanity to their game plan. Doing the same old stuff and expecting a different result.

BTW, another loss is not the end of the world, it's only round 3.

 

[Hamstring awareness]

Disagree on the Dragons. They have a lot of new faces and I think they’ll come good once their combinations are given more time.

Eels, Titans, Cowboys, Dolphins feels like our bottom 4.

 

[Chins]

Disagree on the Dragons. They have a lot of new faces and I think they’ll come good once their combinations are given more time.

Eels, Titans, Cowboys, Dolphins feels like our bottom 4.

The Dragons star signing was Guffo and he looks SOOO f**king slow now. They won't be near the 8

 

[West Nowra Panther]

The Dragons star signing was Guffo and he looks SOOO f**king slow now. They won't be near the 8

And replacing one ordinary forward with another big slow forward ain't gonna do much. Replaced one turnstile halfback with a younger version turnstile halfback.

Gutho has just cashed in on a coach who still thinks the power game from 2016 will win games.

Definitely the definition of insanity.

 

[age.s]

Plenty of logic in dropping Casey for Jenkins and dropping Tago would be absolute insanity at this point.

Idiot isn't even close to a reasonable adjective to pin on a guy overseeing one of the greatest dynasties in the sports history.

 

[WestyLife]

Plenty of logic in dropping Casey for Jenkins and dropping Tago would be absolute insanity at this point.

Idiot isn't even close to a reasonable adjective to pin on a guy overseeing one of the greatest dynasties in the sports history.

I was being dramatic obviously. It does seem a strange knee jerk reaction to a bad game by the entire team and if we are saying a player deserves to be dropped then Tago should've been last year. It comes across as inconsistent standards.

 

[Chins]

By not dropping Teflon Tago Ivan has compromised standards. He is such a bad reader of what's coming at him, Nathan hasn't trusted him for years

 

[age.s]

I was being dramatic obviously. It does seem a strange knee jerk reaction to a bad game by the entire team and if we are saying a player deserves to be dropped then Tago should've been last year. It comes across as inconsistent standards.

The Casey one makes sense. He's a young guy who still has work to do on his game, had an absolute shocker on the weekend, and the other side of the knee jerk coin is Jenkins, who by all accounts is getting rewarded for burning the house down in cup/trials. If it does anything but motivate Casey to work harder and come back stronger then that's on him, not Ivan. It's good for the squad to see that playing well in cup gives you a window into FG.

Tago is a completely different situation to Casey. He was poor in the first 2/3s of last season (though nowhere near as bad as Chins would suggest), but steadily improved, was very good in the big games and outstanding in the biggest game. The idea that Ivan doesn't know what he's doing with Tago simply flies in the face of all observable evidence. He can't do anything more than win multiple premierships with the guy playing really well when it mattered.

 

[age.s]

By not dropping Teflon Tago Ivan has compromised standards. He is such a bad reader of what's coming at him, Nathan hasn't trusted him for years

Bruh

 

[WestyLife]

The Casey one makes sense. He's a young guy who still has work to do on his game, had an absolute shocker on the weekend, and the other side of the knee jerk coin is Jenkins, who by all accounts is getting rewarded for burning the house down in cup/trials. If it does anything but motivate Casey to work harder and come back stronger then that's on him, not Ivan. It's good for the squad to see that playing well in cup gives you a window into FG.

Tago is a completely different situation to Casey. He was poor in the first 2/3s of last season (though nowhere near as bad as Chins would suggest), but steadily improved, was very good in the big games and outstanding in the biggest game. The idea that Ivan doesn't know what he's doing with Tago simply flies in the face of all observable evidence. He can't do anything more than win multiple premierships with the guy playing really well when it mattered.

I'm a firm believer in dropping and promoting players based on performance as deserved. That's why the twgo thing and then the McLean thing is weird. It is an inconsistent application of it. Tago was borderline the worst defender in the comp for a long time. He came good when it mattered yes and the players and coaches knew this and it was admitted publicly.

That's my real issue why is one guy getting the benefit of the doubt when multiple other players aren't.

Edit: tago is one of the best centres in the game at his best in my opinion so no this isn't hate.

 

[Chins]

I'm a firm believer in dropping and promoting players based on performance as deserved. That's why the twgo thing and then the McLean thing is weird. It is an inconsistent application of it. Tago was borderline the worst defender in the comp for a long time. He came good when it mattered yes and the players and coaches knew this and it was admitted publicly.

That's my real issue why is one guy getting the benefit of the doubt when multiple other players aren't.

Edit: tago is one of the best centres in the game at his best in my opinion so no this isn't hate.

Super frustrating player. Its a real shame he didn't grow just a bit more because he'd have to make less decisions in the backrow

 

[Chins]

Bruh

Ivan is a very good coach but he's got a blind spot for Tago in the same way he had for the May brothers

 

[age.s]

I'm a firm believer in dropping and promoting players based on performance as deserved. That's why the twgo thing and then the McLean thing is weird. It is an inconsistent application of it. Tago was borderline the worst defender in the comp for a long time. He came good when it mattered yes and the players and coaches knew this and it was admitted publicly.

That's my real issue why is one guy getting the benefit of the doubt when multiple other players aren't.

Edit: tago is one of the best centres in the game at his best in my opinion so no this isn't hate.

With respect, you're not a 4 time premiership winning coach with deep, intimate knowledge of how this specific playing group operates and how they respond to feedback. I get the angle, but that kind of spreadsheet thinking isn't how people are managed and more importantly, isn't how Ivan's had the ridiculous amount of success he's had here.

 

[age.s]

Ivan is a very good coach but he's got a blind spot for Tago in the same way he had for the May brothers

That may or may not be, but "Nathan hasn't trusted him for years" is a beyond mental take.

 

[Chins]

That may or may not be, but "Nathan hasn't trusted him for years" is a beyond mental take.

You really aren't watching if you can't see Nathan's defence has slipped from where he was. Every game I can see him doubting Tago.
Can you really not see it?

 

[WestyLife]

With respect, you're not a 4 time premiership winning coach with deep, intimate knowledge of how this specific playing group operates and how they respond to feedback. I get the angle, but that kind of spreadsheet thinking isn't how people are managed and more importantly, isn't how Ivan's had the ridiculous amount of success he's had here.

Of course but we can only comment on what we see and just sitting quiet because Ivan is a goat coach is boring. Still don't see how tago specifically gets a pass over everyone else. Will he have some sort of mental collapse if he plays a week or two of reserve grade? Ivan himself has dropped plenty of people Turuva got it last season.