Round 4 V Tigers

[Panfa]

Im happy with the 17 this week but id start egan in place of katoa lets hope cleary doesnt do a switcheroo and start leota over campbell gillard again.

 

[mxlegend99]

hetherington was getting like 20 mins off the bench and isn't part of the top team. The top team guys never get dropped

He isn't part of our top 17 anymore because he got dropped. Even with a few injuries. He was dropped to debut a rookie.

Personally I didnt think he was good enough to be a top 17 player either. But I feel the same about the likes of Winterstein and Fuimaono also. Sele for me is a fringe top 17 player.

Would much rather we gave those opportunities to blokes we have in reserve grade. Rather than promote imported reserve graders ahead of them. Sele trained the house down... fair enough. What the f**k did Winterstein and Fuimaono do to get a spot?

 

[franklin2323]

He isn't part of our top 17 anymore because he got dropped. Even with a few injuries. He was dropped to debut a rookie.

Personally I didnt think he was good enough to be a top 17 player either. But I feel the same about the likes of Winterstein and Fuimaono also. Sele for me is a fringe top 17 player.

Would much rather we gave those opportunities to blokes we have in reserve grade. Rather than promote imported reserve graders ahead of them. Sele trained the house down... fair enough. What the f**k did Winterstein and Fuimaono do to get a spot?

I always saw him filling in for Kikau then others fell away.

As for Winterstein/Fuimaono we need a backrow on the bench. Unlike Martin or Sele they can fill in the backs. For that reason one of them will always be in the 17

 

[tripster]

I assume the reason for importing guys like Winterstein and Fuimaono is Cleary prefers bringing in people with first grade experience to debuting rookies (even if the experience is limited in the case of Fui). This is a change to the approach Griffin took, which was to treat us as a ‘development club’ and take chances with rookies.

Not saying either approach is right or wrong. Presumably however Cleary thinks our pack is inexperienced enough as it is so is reluctant to debut more guys into it.

By the way, what has happened to Ellis? He seems to be captaining the Cup side but not even factoring in to the extended game day squad.

 

[LordLeague]

Penrith 13+

 

[Sime_11]

have to hand it to Ivan by not dropping Edwards, he's backing him to bounce back, Dylan needs to dust himself off and rip in Friday.

would prefer Kikau to come off the bench personally, ease him in, still a long way to go and just get his body right.

 

[franklin2323]

would prefer Kikau to come off the bench personally, ease him in, still a long way to go and just get his body right.

Still might happen

 

[franklin2323]

I assume the reason for importing guys like Winterstein and Fuimaono is Cleary prefers bringing in people with first grade experience to debuting rookies (even if the experience is limited in the case of Fui). This is a change to the approach Griffin took, which was to treat us as a ‘development club’ and take chances with rookies.

Not saying either approach is right or wrong. Presumably however Cleary thinks our pack is inexperienced enough as it is so is reluctant to debut more guys into it.

By the way, what has happened to Ellis? He seems to be captaining the Cup side but not even factoring in to the extended game day squad.

I asked the question over the off season. Who will be the bench backrow/Centre. Perfect case when DWZ went off we had Winterstein and Fuimaono to come in.

Who would of filled the role if not them? So that with FG experience is why we signed them

 

[hindy111]

Good to have Yeo and Kikau back. Not happy Edwards kept his spot. Absolutely no one deserves to keep a spot after playing that badly.

Bench is still pretty weak too. A hooker and 2x second rowers rather than a second front rower.

That young winger Too looks a prospect.

 

[hindy111]

He drops them. He dropped Jack Hetherington to debut Liam Martin Last week FFS.

He just gives established guys a ridiculous amount of chances unless they piss him off

Edwards is clearly in his good books. Being a good trainer seems to be more important than playing well.

No point dropping guys if replacement is worse . That us coaching suicide.

 

[franklin2323]

No point dropping guys if replacement is worse . That us coaching suicide.

Last week DWZ goes off. Fuimaono was able to cover centre. Sele or Martin wouldn't of been able to do that. It is a shame one of them need to miss out but balance of the bench won't allow it

 

[franklin2323]

That young winger Too looks a prospect.

Too is now 2nd winger in waiting. Injuries will see him get his turn as the season goes on

 

[mxlegend99]

That young winger Too looks a prospect.

Very good metre eater. Would be agreat Mansour replacement.

I think he's in our development squad though.

 

[Panfa]

Just noticed gerard sutton is reffing our game friday we better be on our best behaviour hes the other ref besides klein who hates penrith

 

[TheFrog]

Last week DWZ goes off. Fuimaono was able to cover centre. Sele or Martin wouldn't of been able to do that. It is a shame one of them need to miss out but balance of the bench won't allow it

If Yeo had been playing he could have covered centre as well.

 

[franklin2323]

If Yeo had been playing he could have covered centre as well.

Do you want your best forward going to the backs though?

 

[TheFrog]

Do you want your best forward going to the backs though?

Not as a rule, we're talking about covering unforseen injuries/ HIA's. A centre can play like a wide forward anyway at a pinch. It also helps his rep prospects.

 

[franklin2323]

Not as a rule, we're talking about covering unforseen injuries/ HIA's. A centre can play like a wide forward anyway at a pinch. It also helps his rep prospects.

The last bench guy gets not much gametime anyway. So it doesn't mess your balance of the side too much

 

[Westernised Panther]

Very good metre eater. Would be agreat Mansour replacement.

I think he's in our development squad though.

Could we call on him if needed?

 

[mxlegend99]

Could we call on him if needed?

After June 30 I think we can. He might get promoted to Phillips spot