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Round 5 vs Souths

rasaint

Juniors
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Souths are a very good side and will win a lot of games. Good on them for sticking it to us tonight.

We had two try’s disallowed. All this talk of is 8 points enough? Is misleading it was really 20 to 2 at half time/ simple as that. Gus saying all the 50/50 calls going our way is a joke. 12 points were removed from us in 1st half and then the short turnaround fatigue got us in the second half.

Isn’t it beautiful to watch a fast fullback clearout with fresh air rushing past his ears.
 

blacksafake

First Grade
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Very gutsy win. There’s no doubt the short turnaround as well as the heat recently affected them.Agree with everyone saying we would have lost that game in the past.I think they can take a lot out of that win moving forward. The use of the bench tonight was a worry so let’s hope this is rectified before next week. Nene,Nighty& Aitken were outstanding with Lafai not far behind.Here’s hoping the training staff can freshen them up for next week.
 

Lovemedragons

Juniors
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They could have turned it up after two awarded tries overruled by the bonker and then a 6 again call at a critical point which was implausible based on historical calls made (it bounced around like a pinball) bur they didnt, god love them. Great character.
 

Frank Facer

First Grade
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I previously said that Mann isn't a lock. Tonight it almost hurt us. I think we need an extra big man on the bench. I think if we had someone like Pangai or Boyd or Paulo tonight we would have been better off. I would like to see Kerr given a run off the bench next week.

I agree with everyone's sentiments about Leilua tonight. Maybe it is time to replace him with Host.

I think with Simms, Frizell and Aitken, our edge defence is very strong.

We probably do need to have Mann on the bench, because he can cover any position in the backline and if we got an injury to a back during the game, we would have no one there to cover for them.

A bench of Mann, Host, Ah Mau and Kerr or Latimore could be our best option right now.
 

Pro Dragons

Juniors
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One memorable moment from tonight's game was when Euan Aitken ran around Inglis to score a great try.

Apart from the dummy half Ben Hunt handles the ball more than any other team member so it is likely a mistake or two will be made. He has proven to be a fantastic buy and is one of the stronger reasons we have won 5 from 5.

Tonight we witnessed James Graham fury not tolerating a player not giving their all.

Poor refereeing decisions kept Souths in the game.

It's fantastic Nighty had a win tonight. I still remember well his tries in the 2010 Grandfinal. What a player!
 

Tuddy

Juniors
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Don't give up on Luc yet, if Nene can improve the way he has then so can he. He needs to sit out a week or two to have a think about whether he really wants it though. What he did tonight almost ruined an outstanding team effort.

That first disallowed try of Nene's, there was one view from behind im sure showed the ball touching the grass but they only showed that replay angle once? The second one being disallowed however was just a disgrace.

A great effort overall and I'm glad we had a tough one. As others have said, we would have lost that one last year. Good to see Gypsy have a good one as well. Thanks for the 250 mate, it's been a pleasure watching you play every one of them.
 

dragonssamy61

First Grade
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Very gutsy win. There’s no doubt the short turnaround as well as the heat recently affected them.Agree with everyone saying we would have lost that game in the past.I think they can take a lot out of that win moving forward. The use of the bench tonight was a worry so let’s hope this is rectified before next week. Nene,Nighty& Aitken were outstanding with Lafai not far behind.Here’s hoping the training staff can freshen them up for next week.

They only had 2 training sessions this week.
Due to short turn around.
We normally would have a least one more session.
Will be different this week
 
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Old Timer

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You're pretty much spot on on all points there... But sometimes I wonder whether you wait for games like this just put the boot in OT. You've been quiet on the praise but quick to criticise.

To be fair, up until that last 9 minutes, the boy's defence was monumental. THAT was the difference.
TRVR
Can't agree with you I'm afraid.
So far this season whilst being reserved I have given praise where it has been due so suggest you go back across a few threads to have a look.
No harsher critic of Nene over the period than me but this year I have acknowledged his improvement in several threads and in voting.
My post today is not sinking the boot in but in fact a careful assessment of how I saw the game unfold and too that end if in your opinion I'm pretty spot on not sure why you would respond that way.
 

hermidale1

Juniors
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Don't give up on Luc yet, if Nene can improve the way he has then so can he. He needs to sit out a week or two to have a think about whether he really wants it though. What he did tonight almost ruined an outstanding team effort.
Sitting out a week or two doesn't change a lazy attitude in defence.
The kid is a gifted ball player but doesn't know when to not pass at times.
He spent an entire season in Reserve grade last year and it hasn't changed his lazy attitude.
Some players either work hard in defence, or they let others do the work.
 

Como Connection

First Grade
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Don't give up on Luc yet, if Nene can improve the way he has then so can he. He needs to sit out a week or two to have a think about whether he really wants it though. What he did tonight almost ruined an outstanding team effort.

That first disallowed try of Nene's, there was one view from behind im sure showed the ball touching the grass but they only showed that replay angle once? The second one being disallowed however was just a disgrace.

A great effort overall and I'm glad we had a tough one. As others have said, we would have lost that one last year. Good to see Gypsy have a good one as well. Thanks for the 250 mate, it's been a pleasure watching you play every one of them.
Should not be in the first grade team, full stop, will cost a game or two.
Sele has much more power and effort in his game and deserves a run in front LL and takes the 14 spot and play in the middle with Mann to cover the wide position LL's been playing and handle it with ease.
CC
 

BennyV

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I thought Graham’s blow ups at Leilua (saw 2 in the space of a few minutes) were a bit harsh. When he dropped the ball, I reckon most players would have been going for that pass. And while he didn’t react quick enough to Walker, he did have to try and cover for Hunt who rushed up (both Hunt and Aitken should have completed the tackle).

Still not convinced he’s the second coming, but he may grow into a decent impact bench man yet.

Im concerned about our second half. I hope it was the 5 day turnaround buggering us, but Souths aimed up tonight and in the second half and while their execution was dog shit, they showed a bit of speed can get us on the back foot.
 

getsmarty

Immortal
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Dragons survive late scare to notch fifth straight win
Local Sport
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ON THE BOUNCE: Dragons players celebrate their fifth straight victory in Jason Nightingale's 250th game. Picture: AAP

ST GEORGE Illawarra went to 5-0 to start the season, but it was by the skin of their teeth as they outlasted South Sydney 16-12 at Jubilee Oval on Friday night.

The Dragons had won just two of their last 12 games against the Rabbitohs – including the 26-22 loss that started their slide out of the finals race in round 22 last season.

They conceded to tries in the finals five minutes to go down by two that night and coach Paul McGregor may have felt a tinge of deja vu as the Rabbitohs crossed twice in the final nine minutes on Friday.

After a dominant first half from the hosts, the flood gates looked set to open when Matt Dufty raced 60 metres to take a 14-2 lead three minutes into the second half.

However, it was all the visitors from there and when Cody Walker finally crossed with eight minutes to play the comeback was on in earnest.

Greg Inglis scored two minutes later and youngster Adam Douehi nailed the sideline conversion to put the game back on a knife edge at 16-12.

It cut a 14-point buffer to just four, but the Rabbitohs couldn’t find the go-ahead try, with Walker spilling the ball cold 20 metres out from the Dragons line.

McGregor said the win showed a new level of maturity in his side.

“We wouldn’t have won that game last year, it’s fact we didn’t win that game against Souths last year,” he said.

“We did this year which tells me that we’re going the right places. We had no possession in the opposition half in the second half and we defended our line courageously set after set.

“Souths make it ugly, the rucks always slow, it’s hard to generate anything. There were a few things tonight that went against us a little bit and we fought through it.

“We got a good try [Dufty’s] after halftime, we forced an error and scored that try to jump out to 14-2 and then we just had no field position for the whole second half.

“It was very quick around the try-line but we still found a way to get in the right spaces time after time. To come away with a win is outstanding.”

The Dragons had only one try to show for their 70 per cent possession at halftime, though it was luckless opening stanza for Nene Macdonald.

The Queenslad Origin aspirant got across three times in the first half only to be twice denied by the video referee and a third time by a millimetre of sideline chalk.

Replays showed Macdonald was clearly held up in the 13th minute, but his second denial from video official Steve Chiddy in the 32nd minute raised the ire of the Kogarah faithful.

Macdonald finished off a sweeping back line movement and ran the ball under the posts, with on-field ref Gavin Badger sending it upstairs as a try.

Chiddy looked at several replays before ruling that Tariq Sims had obstructed Rabbitohs half Adam Reynolds, who Macdonald brushed off en route to the line.

McGregor said he was left baffled by the decision.

“I’m as confused as you are,” McGregor said.

“The two defender [Reynolds] jammed. When the two defender jams, he’s made a decision.

“He came out of the line and he made a decision and he didn’t make the tackle. That’s all I’ll say.”

It was a let-off the Rabbitohs dearly needed and Anthony Seibold’s men could consider themselves fortunate to trail by jut six at the break.

It ensured veteran winger Jason Nightingale marked his 250th game for the club with a win, and continued a personal love affair with the Rabbitohs, at least as far as milestone games go.

The Dragons’ previous two wins over Souths came in his 150th and 200th games respectively – but a 5-0 start to a season was still a first for the 31-year-old now in his 11th NRL season.

It’s also a first for the club, and poses the question of just how far they can stretch it as they look to next Friday’s clash with arch-rivals Cronulla in Wollongong.

Gareth Widdop opened the scoring with a penalty goal before a minute had passed after the Rabbitohs failed to complete the opening set of the match.

Macdonald was denied the first four-pointer twice in the space of 30 seconds when he was held up over the line and forced into touch on consecutive touches with the line beckoning.

Euan Aitken eventually posted the first try when he blew past Greg Inglis to cross in the right-hand corner.

Widdop’s attempted conversion was waved away, keeping the score at 6-0 with 20 minutes to play before the break.

Macdonald was denied again when he crossed in the 32nd minute only for video referee Steve Chiddy to find an obstruction by Tariq Sims in the lead-up.

Having spent precious little time in Dragons territory throughout the opening stanza, Reynolds pegged the margin back to six with penalty moments before the halftime siren.

It proved only a band-aid with Hunt scooping up an errant pass from John Sutton and finding a runaway Matt Dufty who dashed 60 metres to score just three minutes after the resumption.

With the score at 14-2, the Rabbitohs continued to to press hard with Damien Cook and Robert Jennings going close to scoring, only for Nightingale to come from the clouds to make try-saving tackles on both occasions.

Widdop steadied the ship moments later with his third penalty goal to push the lead out to 16-2 in the 52nd minute.

Tries to Walker and Inglis set up the grand-stand finish down the stretch but the Dragons were good enough to hold on.



http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/...ate-scare-to-notch-fifth-straight-win/?cs=302
 

Dea

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A Graham blast is hopefully the trigger required to get Luc playing with more maturity. To try the pass at that time of the game with the flow all in Souths favour was a dumb move. For a few years we have been critical of the lack of effort by Nene. This year he has been much better with a more professional approach (although still a work in progress as evidence by his failure to run with his centre partner and trap the Souths player in goal). Luc is young but if he could gain some passion and game smarts off Graham then maybe he would achieve the big things spoken of him in the past.
 

getsmarty

Immortal
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Dragons take leaf out of Cowboys' playbook
Author
Brad Walter Senior Reporter
Timestamp
Fri 6 Apr 2018, 10:15 PM

It is a sign of St George Illawarra's depth that Dragons coach Paul McGregor was able to borrow a page from Paul Green's playbook and use his middle forwards to hold out South Sydney 16-12 on Friday night at Jubilee Oval.

With the Dragons dominating the Rabbitohs everywhere except the scoreboard in the first half, McGregor interchanged James Graham, Paul Vaughan and Jack De Belin simultaneously in the 27th minute.

Leeson Ah Mau, Jeremy Latimore and Kurt Mann, who played lock, were their replacements.

The star forwards were re-introduced gradually before the midway point of the second half to help the Dragons late in the match when the possession stakes inevitably shifted back towards their opponents.

Green has used a similar ploy with great effect at North Queensland in recent seasons, with his two starting props and lock Jason Taumalolo usually coming to the bench around the 25th-minute mark and returning midway through the second half.

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Dragons lock Jack De Belin. :copyright:Gregg Porteous/NRL Photos
For McGregor to interchange Graham, Vaughan and De Belin at the same time indicated the confidence he has in the squad, which has been virtually unchanged during their five-game winning streak.

Every member of the starting line-up except Graham and hooker Cameron McInnes have scored tries so far this season in another sign of how well the Dragons are playing.

The Cowboys rely on the tactic to steamroll teams at the back end of matches but the Dragons needed the refreshed Graham, Vaughan and de Belin to help them hang on against a Souths side who refused to give in.

After having just 31 percent of possession in the first half and not making it inside the Dragons 20 metres until the 35th minute, the Rabbitohs were predictably out on their feet by the end of the match.

However, it was a gutsy effort by Anthony Siebold's men to almost snatch an unlikely win after scoring late tries through fullback Alex Johnston in the 72nd minute and Greg Inglis to minutes later.

For the opening 40 minutes it had been the men from Redfern who were under siege. They were forced to make 124 tackles to 51 by the Dragons, who at one stage had 77 percent of possession.

The dominance of the home team in the first half was highlighted by how many metres Graham (100m), Vaughan (97m) and De Belin (94m) made in their 27-minute stints.

The Dragons had five more players who carried the ball more than 50 metres, whereas Dane Gagai was the only Rabbitohs player to do so.

https://www.dragons.com.au/news/2018/04/06/dragons-take-leaf-out-of-cowboys-playbook/
 

getsmarty

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Dragons remain unbeaten after win over Rabbitohs
Author
Dan Walsh
Timestamp
Fri 6 Apr 2018, 09:46 PM

The Dragons have survived the gustiest of green and red revivals to secure a club-record fifth straight win to start the season, downing the Rabbitohs 16-12 in heart-stopping fashion at Jubilee Oval.

With just nine minutes to play the Dragons were cruising at 16-2, having lapped up almost 70 per cent of first-half possession and watched Bunnies linchpin Adam Reynolds forced from the field due to concussion.

But with Cody Walker pulling a game-turning try out of his hat and Greg Inglis following suit two minutes later, Souths had the locals well and truly rattled.

With all the running late in the piece it was a cruel dropped ball by Walker, the brightest spark in cardinal and myrtle by some margin, that eventually sounded the death knell for Souths.

Until the Rabbitohs late resurgence, history had the Dragons daring to dream, even if their fans weren't.

The Red V faithful have been burnt as recently as last year by their team's fade-outs, when six wins from their first seven games weren't enough for a top-eight finish.

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St George Illawarra centre Euan Aitken. :copyright:Gregg Porteous/NRL Photos
But with 10 competition points in the bank already after just five weeks, a finals berth is now the Dragons' to lose.

Of the 12 teams to start a season in the same fashion since 1998, only one has watched September from the sidelines – the Cowboys when Johnathan Thurston missed half the 2006 season with a dislocated knee.

A rough and ready win over the fast-finishing Rabbitohs should only swell St George Illawarra's confidence, while Souths can take plenty of heart from leaving it all and then some on the paddock.


The Rabbitohs' courage under fire was there from the outset, when Alex Johnston weathered the first of testing Dragons bombs that kept coming all night.

The next time Ben Hunt took to the air Dane Gagai couldn't handle the swirling ball.

But when the home side sent all 108 kilos of Nene Macdonald at them the pair somehow managed to hold him up boots and all, with Johnston's foot getting underneath the Steeden to save a try.

Just as remarkable was the Dragons' first points. Rising centre Euan Aitken stopped, started and beat Inglis all ends up on the outside from close range.

Gareth Widdop added a penalty goal before McDonald was denied again in the 32nd minute, this time by a controversial obstruction ruling against Tariq Sims which had the Kogarah faithful fuming.

A penalty on the halftime bell put Souths on the board, but Matt Dufty's sublime speed soon after the break looked to have put the Bunnies to bed.

With the Rabbitohs on the attack an errant pass found its way to Hunt, who in turn found Dufty on a 60m sprint to the line.

A Damien Cook bust had Souths in striking distance soon after and Robert Jennings setting sail for the corner, only for Jason Nightingale to celebrate his 250th outing by crunching him into touch.

The Rabbitohs kept coming, and the Dragons kept denying, before a clever run around from Walker produced the visitors' first try.

Quick hands involving the Rabbitohs five-eighth a minute later had Inglis over for a try of his own and a grandstand finish was in the offing.

https://www.dragons.com.au/news/2018/04/06/dragons-remain-unbeaten-after-win-over-rabbitohs/
 

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