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ROUND 9 - Bulldogs Vs Newtown

ozzie

Bench
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Bulldogs Vs Newtown


Game Thread

Please note - This is a game thread only, therefore only game posts can be made here (Teams, Articles). Any other posts will result in loss of points.

**Referee Blows Game On!**

Referee: Mystique

Full Time: Wednesday 27 August, 2003. 9:00PM AEST
 

Zef

Juniors
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481
Parra-Dogs

Zef
DvdHntr
Vaealikis Girl
BrentWebb'sno.1fan
Louis Lambert

Amended Team as of 22/8/03

Parra-Dogs

DvdHntr
Vaealikis Girl
BrentWebb'sno.1fan
Louis Lambert
Eels2win

Zef (Reserve)
Mr Bulldogs (Reserve)

Team may be further amended via named reserve(s) replacing named starters (DVDHntr excepted - posted )
 

The Engineers Room

First Grade
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DvdHntr – Parra Bulldogs

Solutions to the Bye

Ever since the loss of the Newtown Jets from the top grade (Ongoing financial difficulties led Newtown to pursue new pastures at Campbelltown only to be suspended from the Premiership in 1983.) the issue of the bye has been created. Teams scoring premiership points without gracing the field of play is somewhat strange and the effect that the bye has had on the premiership has been profound. The issue at hand is what measures could the NRL adopt to eliminate the bye from the competition. Most agree that it is not favourable to leave any club without an adversary in any round of the season. In saying that what could be the best solution to this problem? And what other initiatives can the NRL undertake to ensure that the premiership draw for the season allows the best representation in the finals. I will ask the administrators to look outside the square that they seem to have been consummately entrenched into for the majority of their reign.

The solution to the previously mentioned problem was solved in 1988. The league administrators after unsuccessfully trying to remove the Western Suburbs Magpies (with Newtown in 1983) decided that the best option was to add clubs to the competition. When the NSWRL was considering proposals for the entry of three new clubs in 1988 there were numerous applications for the Brisbane club. When the so-called ‘Internationals Syndicate' missed out they set their sights on the Gold Coast - Tweed Heads region. It was hoped the Gold Coast could provide corporate support, while the Tweed would provide a strong Leagues club and ground, supporters and local club competition. But the failure of the club to achieve any great on field success (only reaching the top 7 in 1997) meant that their days were numbered. The addition of another club is a proficient short-term answer to the problem but long-term thinking is vital in this game as well.

Borrowing from American sports a conference system would work by dividing the teams into two conferences. The problem arises from the fact that the logical option for the split of the clubs would be Sydney and non-Sydney teams. However, as there is nine Sydney based teams this causes a problem. Two options are proposed:

OPTION 1: One option would be to allow the Dragons to use their Illawarra connection to form part of the non-Sydney conference. Adding another non-Sydney based club to that conference. This option causes the least amount of disruption to clubs. To add two more national clubs the Dragons would be transferred into the Sydney conference.

OPTION 2: The fusing of the lower grade competitions so as to create a promotion/relegation style competition. The top 8 Sydney clubs stay in the NRL, whilst at the completion of the season the lowest ranked NRL team is swapped with the winner of the second competition. For the non-Sydney conference, the Gold Coast would be added and the winners NZ Bartercard premiership, Queensland Cup and representative teams from other areas would play to see who would gains the last spot. Each year the winner of the play-off would replace the lowest team in the conference.

With either option each team plays its own conference twice and the others once. With the top 4 in each conference making the finals. The top team in one-conference plays the lowest ranked team in the other conference and so on.

Another option in how to reduce the size of the premiership teams to an even figure is to force a merger of two current clubs. The last time that this evolved many fans protested and support dwindled.

On a side issue, since the embarrassing defeat of the British Lions by Australia in the previous one off test, it has been put forward that the only way to improve international standards is to play more tests. The Australian Cricket team plays at least one test series per summer as Cricket Australia focuses on improving the standard of play. However, due to the 26-week draw and final series not to mention the strain on the State of Origin representative players, an international test series each year has become virtually impossible, as post and preseason tests are not desirable. The only way to achieve this mark it seems is to shorten the amount of rounds that needs to be played so as to fit in a test series sometime mid season. This is achieved by the conference system.

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Willow_2003

Juniors
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Moffo and Hass are having a break.

Team round 24 v Parra-Bulldogs
Deadline next Wed 27th Aug. 9pm.

Willow (c)
roopy (vc)
Gorilla
Legend
salivor

Res:
GBT
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Up the bags...! :D
 

eloquentEEL

First Grade
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-> eels2win - on debut for the mighty Parra-Dogs <-

Luckier than a footy player at a cheer leader convention

There is a lot of luck in the great game of league. It’s built into the game with the ARL Laws of the Game stating “the game shall be played with an oval air-inflated ball”. This is to introduce the “lucky bounce of the ball” into the game, as opposed to using a predictably bouncing round ball as they do in soccer. A single lucky bounce of the ball could theoretically change the whole outcome of a season. For example, in the final round between 8th and 9th the scores are locked with one minute left and a lucky bounce hands the game to one team, putting them into the finals where they go on to win the premiership. Had the ball bounced the other way they would have missed out on the finals altogether. Okay, this is an extreme and unlikely example, and if a team is good enough, they should be able to win regardless of a couple of lucky bounces of the ball during the season, but there are always the “what if” questions.

Luck does not end with the shape of the ball. It comes in many other forms. One of which is injuries. One or two injuries to key players seem to affect a whole team’s performance. Combine this with the luck of the draw. Perhaps it is possible to cover the injured players and learn new combinations against weaker teams, but not so easily against the tougher sides. A side may have their top player injured for three weeks where they play against the two bottom sides and have a bye, or they could be up against top eight teams for those three weeks in a row. That in itself could be the difference between missing the finals or just scraping in. Another situation could see a team relatively injury free for the majority of the season, easily making the finals, then suffering a few injuries in round 26 and getting bowled out in first week of the finals. Alternatively, a team that has had a horror run of injuries during the regular season gets all of its players back in the last couple of rounds and on form is the best team in the competition, but misses the finals because of all the losses while the top players were out during the majority of the season.

Then comes the nature of refereeing our great game. Depending on the mood and style of the referee, a game can go either way. Catching a referee on a bad day in the past has resulted in events such as four players being sinbinned in a match, players being sent off for high tackles in one match and only penalised in another match, where they end up scoring the match-winning try. Within a few weeks, players have been binned/sent off for swearing and others have been allowed to tell the referee their opinion of a decision, including expletives, without even being penalised. To demonstrate the effect a referee can have on a game, some punters out there will not even put their tips in until they know who has been named as referee.

The league thought that it might take some of the luck component out of awarding tries by introducing video referees, but that has just exposed another element of luck. Listening to commentators watching replays of tries, three commentators will come up with five different versions of how the play should be ruled, and then the video referee will come up with a sixth. So depending on who is in the video referee’s box can be just as important to a game as who is refereeing out in the middle.

Any way you look at it, luck is an integral part of rugby league and that is what makes it exciting to watch and emotionally charged. That is what makes it highly marketable for tipping competitions and gambling and that is what keeps us as fans, coming back for more every game, every season.

Combined with the salary cap, luck generally tends to even out over the years to provide an even competition. If your team has had a bad run with luck, no need to despair, hopefully a change of luck is just around the corner. However, if your team has been hoarding all the good fortune, strap on your seatbelt for a bumpy ride.

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Vaealikis Girl

Juniors
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Vaealikis Girl - Parra Dogs

The Footy Show or the Fatty Show???

I’m sure most people will agree that footy fans love nothing more than to talk about footy for a few hours. A huge number of footy fans come home on a Thursday night and settle down on the lounge for a night of news and reviews from the week’s football only to be disappointed by “the Fat’s” antics and new and ever growingly pathetic segments.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s one of my favourite shows and I do have a good laugh at some of the segments, especially Reg’s Rant, and the work they do for charity is commendable. It just seems that the show has become all Fatty and no footy. While it has always been more of an entertainment show than a news show, the amount of football information included in the show is rapidly thinning.

Players coming on the show, dressing room wraps and reviews, general league news. All these things are slowly being taken over by segments such as Judge Fat and his Well Hung Jury, Beat The Boys, Anti-ads and whatever feast of stupidity Fat has cooked up for the week.

When players or teams do feature in the show it is always the same ones every time. Being an Eels supporter it is very rare to see one of my favourite players on the show. The last time I remember an Eel being on the show is back around round 6 when Nathan Hindmarsh was interviewed by a fan. There are no doubt a number of other teams who are the same however this is the one I pick up on most because I hang out every week hoping one of the players will be on or they’ll even mention them. To get on the Footy Show these days it seems as though you have to be a favourite of “the Fat”. I won’t mention names as I’m sure we have all recognised the small amount of variety between players on the show.

I do sound like I am very against the show but it really is a favourite of mine and quite amusing at times. I just feel they could show more football news considering it is called “The Footy Show” and could fit even a little more into the hour and a half they have every Thursday.

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Willow_2003

Juniors
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*Willow for the Bluebags*

The Naked Truth about Footy History

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According to the Union spin doctors, Rugby Football was created by some American called William Webb Ellis in 1823. At best, it is hearsay. Perhaps it is true that a young student while attending an English Public School in the village of Rugby, did indeed pick up a soccer ball and run with it towards the opponent’s goal line. But there is no evidence that this ‘defining’ moment in sport history ever actually took place.

The main problem with this story is that it only surfaced in 1895 when the Northern Football Union formed a new breakaway competition – some 70 years after the alleged event. It came about while both England and France were claiming ownership of the game’s origins and while the new ‘Rugby League’ was severing ties with the establishment.

Nevertheless, Rugby Union insists on calling its ‘World’ Competition, the Webb Ellis Cup and have now elevated it to being the holy grail of Rugby – a clever ploy and one which sees commentators repeating the claim that Rugby Football is an English invention - a claim which even Rugby historians cannot verify.

So what is the true origin of Footy?

According to the Wales Tourist Board, the game of Rugby Football, and for that matter, Rugby League, can thank the naked romps of Welsh villagers for the game we have today.

In defiance of the English viewpoint, Welsh postcards are circulating the proclamation: ‘Rugby is Born - Wales 1603’.

The Welsh claim that Rugby Football is over 400 years old and that it was played over the countryside between villagers who, despite the weather, competed without a skerrick of clothing.

One can but imagine how modern footballers would hold up playing in the nuddy on a chilly Canberra Stadium or at Melbourne’s Olympic Park. The footballers in 1603 were never dealt the comfort of an Australian Autumn night. They must have been tough as teak as they were delivered to the turf on an icy Welsh pitch with nothing to protect them other than their wits and the skin beneath their bones.

The Wales Tourist Board refers to a competition called ‘Cnapan’ which took place between two villages in Pembrokeshire exactly 400 years ago. In ancient Welsh language, ‘Cnapan’ means ‘ball’ or ‘bowl’. The Cnapan was made of wood and then boiled in fat to make it slippery. Up to 1500 players competed and they wore no boots, no shorts and no jerseys. They competed for possession, they tackled each other… and they ran with the ball.

The description of Cnapan comes from Orwerth C Peate who speaks of the Welsh traditions in his book, ‘Traditional and Folklife’. Despite the obvious historical differences, Peate states: “Cnapan may well have predisposed the Welsh towards their love of and skill of Rugby Football”.

There was even a match report from the time. Chronicler, George Owen (1552-1613) described it as: “Each side used every means possible to stop the other carrying the ball into their own village.”

“About one or two of the clock afternoon begins the play… after a cry made both parties draw into some plain, all first stripped bare saving a light pair of breeches, bare-headed, bare-bodied, bare legs and feet.

“There is a round ball (called cnapan) prepared of reasonable quantity so as a man may hold it in his hand and no more….

“The match begins when one man hurls the cnapan high in the air. Whoever catches it, hurls it towards the country he plays for, for goal or appointed place there is none – neither needs, any for the play is not given over until the cnapan be so far carried that there is no hope to return it back that night.”

Apparently and regrettably, the score of this historic match was not recorded.

The Welsh are indeed a mighty people who have survived centuries of English domination. What a credit is to them and their offspring that they can lay claim to yet another culture that was once accepted as being merely ‘British’.

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Ref: 'Weekend Bulletin' (James Shrimpton)
Ref: 'A Brief History of Rugby League' (Steven Williams)
 

WH Nook

Juniors
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WH Nook (GBT) for the Bags.

Golden Pointless Exercise.

Surely this is an undignified way to end a game like Rugby League.

Perhaps in a sudden death or knock-out competition, when the question of ending a tie in a certain timeslot is of some importance, this method of ending a game is more appropriate. For any regular season tie, the golden point is a nonsensical method to determine the result of a match.

Now, if the Australians have their way - once more! The golden point could well be introduced to the this years Ashes series. One person in favour of it's introduction for the Lions versus Kangaroos battle is Australian national coach Chris Anderson. Strangely enough, he's against this rule for games involving his own club side Cronulla. Could this be another case of an Aussie coach using any method to gain an advantage, by hook or crook, in order to get one over their rivals? His excuse is, he feels that a Test unlike a club match, should have a result and not a draw - how convenient. Why does he really feel it matters more for Test matches that a result is needed? Does he and the others who favour this think it will have a beneficial effect on Test Match football?!?! I don't! and I suspect the vast majority of Rugby League fans, even many Australian's (40% in one recent poll) feel the same.

Why shouldn't a series by drawn - does it devalue the entertainment, is there no merit in a series which ends with both teams level after 240 minutes of toil, heartache, joy, passion? Do those who support the golden points introduction not feel the same as the rest of us, does becoming an Australian Rugby League administrator require a passion by-pass operation?

According to some sources, the golden point has proven to be a success, who by? And evenb if a majority of the NRL viewing public really do favour it, does it mean the rest of us should have it foisted on us? Surely to have it included in internationals, the countries concerened should have such a rule within their own domestic competition.

The NRL has seen the golden point used on three occasions, with victories for Parramatta over Manly, Penrith against the North Queensland Cowboys and the New Zealand Warriors over South Sydney. Wether the golden point improved these games is subjective, although I find it hard to imagine how the use of extra time after teams being level over eighty minutes can be deemed as an improvement - I thought a drawn Rugby League game, unlike soccer, was, almost without exception, one of those events that fans tended to feel they had received value for money. I like to witness a draw, I enjoy telling people they missed a great draw; I can never recall saying that in the old days when I followed the roundball game.

Some may find my views to be archaic, that they show a fundamental differences between British and Aussie sporting culture, in that we find a draw acceptable and end up losers, which supposedly contrasts with the Australian view and is by some kind of fuzzy logic, the reason for our sporting failure.

Those against the Australian plan to hijack Test Match Rugby League include New Zealand Rugby League chairman Selwyn Pearson - obviously a man who doesn't get any kicks from chasing this American dream. Could the Kiwis by the saviours of the Ashes......

The golden point, introduced into the NRL and Sate of Origin this year, is supposedly the brainchild of National Rugby League chief executive David Gallop, who, it is believed, got the idea after visiting the United States where he witnessed the golden point in a gridiron game. For some unimaginable reason, Americans are repulsed by the idea of draws, but I believe that this is one idea from that nation that is not for our game. American cultural imperialism stops here!
 

roopy

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Roopy for Newtown

Nicknames

Nicknames are a great Australian tradition. The first thing any Aussie male joining a workforce, a group or a sporting team needs is to be given a nickname by his new mates. It shows acceptance by the group, and it is often used by the group to bring people down to earth if they seem to be ‘up themselves’ or in any way outside the group ethos.
Some nicknames point to the personality of the player, such as Gary Freeman being known as ‘Whiz’ or ‘Yappy’ because of his constant niggle on the field, and Les Boyd being known as the ‘Baby Faced Killer’ because of his aggressive nature. Other nicknames come from the looks of the players such as all red heads being named blue and not so attractive guys like Martin Bella and Darren Tracey being called ‘Munster’ and ‘Skelator’ respectively.
Some players got nicknames that were a play on words associated with their names. Phil Sigsworth got ‘Whatsapackof’, Brad Fittler was called Adolph in his early days, Jason Death was called ‘Doctor’, and the funniest of all was a player named Gavin Lester who was simply known as ‘Mo’.
Some players are given nicknames because of some quality in their play. Gillmiester was known as ‘The Axe’ because he chopped down guys in tackles, Steve Ella was the ‘Zip Zip man’ because of his weaving runs, Ray Price was ‘Mr Perpetual Motion’ because he was always working hard, Steve Roach was ‘Blocker’ because of his defence and Wally Lewis was simply ‘The King’ because he was the best.
A very controversial nickname from the past was given to Queensland player Edwin Brown who was nicknamed ‘n****r’ because of his unusually fair complexion. In recent times legal action has been taken to remove the word ‘n****r’ from a grandstand named in his honour.
There are many stories behind some of the nicknames given over the years, some are obvious, and some are not so obvious.
Marcus Bai is simply known as ‘George’ which is short for ‘George of the Jungle,’ and alludes to his PNG Highlands heritage.
Danny Buderus is known as ‘Bedsy’ because one of his team mates thought his name sounded like the mattress retailer Beds’R’Us.
Robbie McCormack was known as the ‘Moth’ because of a certain incident where he is alleged to have been seen emerging from a wardrobe.
The legendary Cleal brothers, both guys with faces that frighten small children, were nicknamed ‘Blossom and Precious’ when playing for Scone in the upper Hunter Valley. Noel got the more conventional and fearsome nickname of ‘Crusher’ when he went to Sydney to play.
Roy and HG are responsible for some of the most irreverent nicknames ever handed out. They christened Glen Lazarus ‘The Brick with Eyes’, Benny Elias was called ‘Back door Benny’ after some unfortunate publicity he had received, Dale Shearer was called the ‘Datsun 180B man’ and Martin Bella was called ‘The Squirrel Gripper’ after his tackling style.
Some nicknames produced funny stories in themselves. Paul Harragon was known as the ‘Chief’ after the big, silent Red Indian character in the movie ‘One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest,’ because his school friends thought he was big and reserved, but when he first came to prominence as a player, his coach, Alan McMahon, was asked why he referred to the big and powerful young prop as the ‘Chief’ and McMahon simply said “Because he told me to”.
Even some officials get nicknames, often very cutting ones. Greg Hartley was called ‘Hollywood’ because he always seemed to end up in front of the cameras and Barry Gommersal was known as ‘The Grasshopper’ because of his long limbs and bug eyes.
Nicknames are so much a part of some players that you recognize them by their nicknames. Joey (Johns), Brandy (Alexander), Snoz (Sterling), Fatty (Vautin), Falcon (Fenech), Choppy (Close), Wombat (Eadie), Lord Ted (Goodwin), Bozo (Fulton), Changa (Langlands), Chief (Harragon), Cement (Gillespie) and even the great Dally (Messenger) are all guys who are instantly identified by their nicknames, whatever the circumstances under which their 'names' are mentioned.
The nickname was once a great tradition in Australian life. It seems to be dying out a bit in general society, but it is alive and well in Rugby League.
 
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Make mine a forward

When you’re fighting for your life, up against a wall with someone advancing on you, I want a mate beside me. And not just any old mate, no stoner-pal or drinking buddy, I want a mate who is a also a forward !

Why ?

Forwards have got the guts and the courage, and backs haven’t. I want a forward beside me and the only time I want a back is when I’m retreating because I’ll want a fast piggy-back.

Forwards have the important jobs and positions in the rugby league game. We have all heard the old truisms: “Forwards win big matches”, “control the middle of the field and the ruck”, do the hard yards first”….When it comes to defending in the trenches, when it comes to going forward with the ball, when it comes to the sickening clashes and biffo – it’s the forwards that provide the grunt and the guts.

Look at recent grand finals – all won on the platform of the forwards. The 2001 and 1999 grand finals are great examples of this. The 1999 grand final was in the bag for St George Illawarra at half time on the back of great work by Mundine and Blacklock, but in the second half the Storm forwards came out and monstered the St George Illawarra pack, led by Nikau and Lazarus. This got the St George Illawarra team on the back foot and allowed the outside backs to score the tries. In the 2001 grand final, why did the Knights win over the much-vaunted Parramatta ? The gutsy Knights forwards blew away the Parramatta pack in the first half and Parramatta never got a look in. Joey Johns had a bit to do with it, but remember, he’s a half-back which actually makes him a half-forward too!

The dominating images of the State of Origin are players like Spud and Chief lining each other up, the raging bull Tallis rampaging and big hitting, and the littlest half-forwards like Johns and Alfie bamboozling the tackle-shy gutless backs ! The 3rd origin match in 2003 shows this perfectly, the previously tired and outplayed Queensland forwards came out in the 3rd match and just steamrolled the NSW pack leading to their win in that match – Queensland didn’t have a real chance until their forwards stood up to be counted.

Maybe the smartalecs outside the part-forwards (half and five-eigth) score the tries but it’s because of the forwards that backs get their opportunities. Everyone knows how important the forwards are, screaming out “Go forward”. The only guy on the field who says “go back” is the referee !

Too many forget the hard work by the forwards for the fancypants backs, but when it matters the forwards stand up and take control of the game. Its no accident that the teams soften each other up in the early stages – no wonder the backs back away when the going is tough ! One of the best compliments given a modern winger is to say he played like an extra forward ! Modern wingers are chosen partly on their ability to play in the ruck area. Most are just forwards waiting to slow down whilst speedy backs like El Masri, Slater and Wesser languish on the sidelines because the selectors realise it’s better to have a couple of extra forwards. Even master coaches like Bennett often stack their bench with four forwards.

The forwards are the only ones you can depend upon, when you’re on your own line and the opposition is pressing hard, it’s the forwards who form the nucleus of the defenders, spreading out from the ruck. The softest try you can score is the pushover next to the ruck (probably because some backs are defending there), because it’s recognised that the gutsiest and hardest men (the forwards) are supposed to be there.

At the end of the match you only have to look at the jumpers to see how dirty and ripped they are, from the backs to the forwards, the jumpers get dirtier, because the forwards have been doing the work. The shirkers out the back just ponce around bludging on the hard workers.

Don’t get me wrong, backs have their uses, when the team plane crashes on the desert island and you’re stuck there for years, it’s the backs who are going to be wearing the skirts and high heels and the forwards will be controlling the rations in exchange for favours……

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Goal Kicking - The Art of Time Wasting????

A hot topic at the moment is the amount of time it takes a team’s nominated goal kicker to actually go through their routine to actually attempt to convert a try or a shot at penalty goal. Brent Webb, who is known widely as the National Rugby Leagues slowest goal kicker takes on average up to three minutes from when the time he begins to set the ball on the tee or mound of sand till he actually strikes the ball. Clinton Schifcosfske is the same, Schifcofske before Webb came along and took the unwanted crown of the “slowest goal kicker” off him was known as the slowest. But at the defence of these to fine players they both haven’t followed suit with the changing times and new technology and have continued to use the traditional sand mound to place the ball on to take the shot at goal. Webb says “I just don’t like kicking the ball off a tee as I don’t strike the ball well and usually end up kicking the tee which effects my rhythm.” Canberra’s Clinton Schifcofske likes the sand better as well, saying that he strikes the ball a lot cleaner, while also saying with a tee he would end up kicking the tee.

Many of the other goal kickers take their time to take their shots too, but the line has to be drawn somewhere. As in some aspects it is time wasting.

E.g. Say there is five minutes left on the clock and your team is ahead by only a try. The opposition has time to possibly score more points but you take that right away by spending more time on taking a kick. A minute or a few seconds here and there may not seem like much but all add up.

An classic example of time wasting this year was in the June 14 Warriors v Eels round 14 clash at Parramatta Stadium, Where Stacey Jones was sent to the sin bin. During that time the Warriors scored, Motu Tony took a minute to clean the grass off his sprigs to take the shot at goal (Which was from right in front of the posts). Then turns around and waits for Brent Webb who was back over the halfway line waiting for the restart of play to come and take the shot at goal.

I believe this is very un-sportsman like and shows no respect whatsoever to the opposition team. No matter what the score is.


But that is his style and preparation for a shot at goal. Although at this point in time there is no official rule on the allocated time limit for taking a shot at goal in the National Rugby League, but in the near future I believe this will change.

There are a number of ways this problem could be resolved:


Time off for all shots at goal

This way now time would be wasted from the allocated 80 minutes of the match will be wasted but matches could drag on forever. Some referees already do this for some kickers.

E.g. Brent Webb on the weekend when the warriors were given a penalty within kicking range late in the second half. Referee Bill Harrigan called time off, as Webb wanted to have a drink before he took the kick for goal. The Warriors players were blowing up at Mr Harrigan but he just responded by saying “He wanted to have a drink so I’ll blow time back one when I’m ready.” And in the end after an age to line up the kick it missed.

The introduction of a Shot Clock

Just like in basketball, when the ball passes halfway the team has 24 seconds to put a shot up. But for the NRL there could be a time limit of say one minute or 1 ½ minutes from when the try or penalty has been given for the team to kick for goal. If the goal is not attempted in the time allocated that is it.

In Union the kicker has one minute to take a shot and it seems to work. The referee tells the kicker at certain stages how long he has to go to take the shot, so this maybe the way to go.
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Quote from one of the many conversations with Brent Webb:

Webb says “I just don’t like kicking the ball off a tee as I don’t strike the ball well and usually end up kicking the tee which effects my rhythm.”
 

Louis Lambert

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The War of the Fans

Life is a battle. Whether it’s battles over disputed land in Cashmere or battles over who gets to choose Wednesday night’s video, they are truly requisite to life.

For the NRL club fan, the greatest battles aren’t happening on the field, they’re happening in the stands.

What follows is an abstract of a study into NRL club fans that I found being passed around the trenches earlier this week. It profiles the five dimensions of supporters which, after reading, should prepare you for the most important battle of all – the battle of rival club supporters.


The Fanatic: Fan type 1

This type of fan keeps clubs in business through their avarice. They have attended every home game since childhood with the exception of inconveniences such as funerals, weddings, and major appliance purchases.

The Fanatic’s life is a shrine to their chosen club and never leave their residence without wearing some form of club merchandise – worn to prove to the world to know how deep their love is, often wearing attire totally unsuitable for the occasion. For example, wearing a Rambo-style Bulldogs headband to church.

Verdict: A true gladiator in the sense they will do anything to win the battle of the supporter if it’s in the name of their club. The Andrew Johns of club supporters.


The Steve Carter: Fan type 2

Like its name suggests, this type of fan is over you like a rash the moment your big A hits the plastic seat and will be in your ear until you leave, though the taunts are limited to “Go the Eels” if you’re a Bulldogs fan, or any club if the target is a Manly fan.

Verdict: A limited player, much like Luke Covell or Daryl Halligan. A breeze for the thick-skinned supporter.


The Freedom Fighter: Fan type 3

Is possibly a distant relative of Ernesto Guevara in the way he carries out guerrilla attacks. He uses all artillery and methods at his disposal - tomato sauce on your seat, banana and tuna sandwiches ‘accidentally’ dropped by his kids into your lap and the much-feared chemical attack.

The chemical blitz is carefully timed for maximum damage and comes in the form of cigarette smoke. By full-time the air will be filled with – among other things – tension and mutual abhorrence.

Verdict: Should be respected, but feared. The leader of the pack.


The Cootman: Fan type 4

If Joel Clinton had never made it to the dizzy heights of Panthers first grade, he would likely be this type of fan.

As Cootman, they have lost the facility to reason with fellow man thanks to a lifetime of training at the School of Hard Knocks. Every loss is like watching a slow-motion replay of his wife leaving for the last time. The team is thus an extension of himself and a form of self-expression. It’s this type of history that makes Cootman a mighty warrior and a more-than-worthy foe.

There are a number of things a Cootman will do to make opposition fans endue a living hell:

* Get zonked on watered-down spirits no later than half-time break, thus giving Cootman license to exclaim to the cheerleaders ‘show us your pom poms!’

* Deride the referee for most decisions, often delivering a torrent of abuse for a decision in favour of Cootman’s team, but by this stage he is far too blitzed to realise.

Verdict: Like a champion, this one just keeps going even though he’s lacking in know-how.


The David Middleton: Fan type 5

These fans have carved out a niche that has no application to life. Their home library includes every Big League program ever printed where they are then able to cross-analyse for something on which to base spurious claims:

‘Since 1908, when the Roosters have beaten the minor premiers the week before losing to a team wearing white shorts, they score less than 7 tries.’

They complete the crossword in Big League in record time and point out any glaring oversights:

“Willy Cockburn scored three tries for Newtown, not two. Idiots!’

Their faculty to recall trivial league events is spooky if not worrying. Resides at the bottom of the fan food chain and is thus least threatening.

Verdict: The same impact as a Mark O’Halloran tackle – a true lightweight.

So, when you attend your next NRL match, remember this report, and consider that the pensioner behind you doesn’t just have an eye disorder – he could well be an ice-cool freedom fighter.

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legend

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If the NRL are fair dinkum about giving the fans the best quality rugby league, then they must immediately look to another free to air carrier next year and beyond after the latest snubbing of the Canberra Raiders.

In what can only be described as an astounding decision by Channel Nine, they have opted not to show the Raiders v Roosters clash in round 26 on free to air television. Currently both teams occupy two of the top four spots on the NRL ladder and if results go in their favour, the teams may well be playing for the minor premiership.

It’s bad enough we (the Raiders) were snubbed in round 24 for our match against the Newcastle Knights but this latest debacle takes the cake. Channel Nine in all their wisdom have decided to televise the Friday night match between the Broncos and the Dragons. And while both sides may figure in the finals, there is nowhere near as much at stake as two teams possibly playing out the last match of the regular season for the minor premiership.

The round 26 Sunday match of the day will be played between the Panthers and Eels and it is highly probable the Eels may already be out of finals contention by then, effectively making the game a nothing match, while the Raiders and Roosters may be playing off for the right to hoist the J J Giltinan Shield.

If I am not mistaken, the Roosters and Raiders played one of the toughest games of the season last Friday night both mentally and physically and the commentators were united in their praise of both sides and the level of effort they put in.

Simon Hawkins, the Raiders CEO must take this issue up with David Gallop and the NRL to ensure the Raiders fans are not treated like second class citizens after some absolutely disgusting treatment from Channel Nine. All the while, the NRL sit back and twiddle their collective thumbs in favour of Sydney sides hogging the coverage. Not really a positive way to expand the game into other areas by continuing with the Sydney centric attitude that all fans want to see Sydney clubs free to air.

Let’s see what happens if Parramatta drop a game between now and round 26. A loss would certainly rule them out of finals contention. Will they (nine) run to the NRL and Fox like they did earlier in the season when the Raiders played the Bulldogs trying to get the Raiders on free to air?

There is also the substandard radio coverage where one carrier calls a handful of games every weekend and no fan gets the coverage of the game it truly deserves. Is ti any wonder Rugby Union and the AFL are miles ahead when it comes to the marketing and promotion of the game. For the forseeable future, we will always be the poor cousin who feeds off the scraps of the big boys.

Memo to nine, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
 

eloquentEEL

First Grade
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Full time, ay?

*shakes hands with Willow*
*shakes hands with roopy*
*shakes hands with gorilla*
*shakes hands with legend*
*shakes hands and offers to swap jerseys with opposite number in WH Nook*

hey, gotta keep up with some traditions, don't we?

*heads back to the sheds with his team mates after a good, clean, hard match*
 
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gorilla

Guest
Well, good match, well played for a bunch of young whippersnippers ! ;-)
*Shakes hands all-round as well*
I notice this a doggies home game, are we back to the club or the Hurlestone Park Hotel for a couple of jugs (beer)? :lol:
Maggie
 
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