Rugb League in Cornwall

[Paley]

isn't this place the place where those psychotic Serial killers lived?

Or is that another part of England?

Fred West and his wife Rose?

They lived in Gloucester, apparently union is reasonably popular there

 

[Teddyboy]

isn't this place the place where those psychotic Serial killers lived?

Or is that another part of England?

Fred West and his wife Rose?

No you think of South West which Cornwall is part of.

 

[Teddyboy]

I never knew this from the histroy section.
http://www.plymouthtitans.com/page6.htm

 

[bowes]

They lived in Gloucester, apparently union is reasonably popular there

Went to Gloucester last weekend with rugby league when Cov played there and did the touch judging. Thought Gloucestershire Warriors were good enough rugby players, but most of them weren't so good on the rugby league specifics only a few were regular RL players

A shame as 20 years ago there were 5 RL clubs in the winter there going head to head with RU

 

[Teddyboy]

Went to Gloucester last weekend with rugby league when Cov played there and did the touch judging. Thought Gloucestershire Warriors were good enough rugby players, but most of them weren't so good on the rugby league specifics only a few were regular RL players

A shame as 20 years ago there were 5 RL clubs in the winter there going head to head with RU

Gloucester was another Rugby club who could of swayed to the Northern Union but sadly didn't.

 

[rwaite]

Sounds like a great idea playing a league team out of Cornwall/Devon. I think Plymouth would be the best place for a stadium to cater for this given the central location in the SW and the easy access via M5 and A38. Given the number of people who holiday down there during the summer when League is played it may work,.

Would be awesome to see it grow in a competitive side that could cut it in the Super League. The more the game can grow outside of North England the better!

 

[VictoryFC]

Sounds like a great idea playing a league team out of Cornwall/Devon. I think Plymouth would be the best place for a stadium to cater for this given the central location in the SW and the easy access via M5 and A38. Given the number of people who holiday down there during the summer when League is played it may work,.

Would be awesome to see it grow in a competitive side that could cut it in the Super League. The more the game can grow outside of North England the better!

19,000 seater in Plymouth already. Decent stadium

 

[Teddyboy]

Would 3 expansions teams based in Cornwall,Devon and Bristol work in the Cooperative Championship and Championship 1 work or even a southern semi-pro conference ?????????????

 

[bowes]

Would 3 expansions teams based in Cornwall,Devon and Bristol work in the Cooperative Championship and Championship 1 work or even a southern semi-pro conference ?????????????

Not at the moment.

However, I hope when they get this southern wide strong amateur division going I hope to see Bristol in it. If you weren't aware the RFL are hoping when the winter game switches to have a structure like:

Super League
Championship
National 1
National 2
(North) West/(North) East/South
etc.

It will probably end up slightly different but I reckon over time it would probably be an aim to work towards National 2 being split North and South when the South division improves.

 

[Teddyboy]

Not at the moment.

However, I hope when they get this southern wide strong amateur division going I hope to see Bristol in it. If you weren't aware the RFL are hoping when the winter game switches to have a structure like:

Super League
Championship
National 1
National 2
(North) West/(North) East/South
etc.

It will probably end up slightly different but I reckon over time it would probably be an aim to work towards National 2 being split North and South when the South division improves.

In my view i can only see Rugby League expanding in Europe at the mo through being a semi-pro sport e.g. crowds of 300-2000 and no silly money.
It's been said before but Rugby League as an amateur sport numbers will drop as it is such a tough game and sports like Tag/Touch could/will get bigger then the amateur full contact game be it competitive and social side but i do think there is a gap for semi-pro League all over England Wales and South West France.

But how do you start an semi pro side with a view of being only semi pro but making enough money as there are hundreds of semi pro Soccer sides in the UK but they all have there own grounds and history and tribalism.

We have former Super League side Gateshead Storm in my area and most match day experiences are pretty dour to say the least as there get crowds of 250-400 in a 10000 seater Athletics stadium and tickets are around £10 plus they have about 1 OTT rent-a-cop Stewards for every 20 fans and there is a sh*t bar selling expensive Beer for you to pass after the game.
If i was bankrolling something like Gateshead then i would look for as much help outside i.e. Sports Lottery fund (but that's prob f**ked with the Olympics being staged in London) to get a ground which can hold no more then 2000-5000 and be a hybrid of your Old Mans Working Club (think aussie CIU)cum semi-pro Soccer club cum amateur Rugby Union/Cricket club in which we have all over the UK and grow the game in the area alongside having a sporting club for the community as well as being a members Social club which in turn would get you a cheaper pint hence would help fund the part-time wages of the players.
Iam looking back to go forwards.

 

[tango602]

19,000 seater in Plymouth already. Decent stadium

would i be correct in thinking you mean home park?

 

[VictoryFC]

would i be correct in thinking you mean home park?

Indeed. But if Argyle ever get their act together, and England win the bid for 2018 WC, then even Home Park would become too big.

 

[CQ Italia]

Cornwall Rugby League - good choice. That's where my "English" side of the family originally come from. Would be pretty much be my automatic favourite "UK team"

 

[tango602]

Indeed. But if Argyle ever get their act together, and England win the bid for 2018 WC, then even Home Park would become too big.

Indeed, there is always the brickfields which are home to plymouth albion

 

[bowes]

There's more proper semi-pro clubs than we can support at the moment, should only be one division of about 14-16 of them.

On the other hand there needs to be something between semi-pro and amateur where you get expenses and appearance/win fees but not contracts. A few clubs like London Skolars and Doncaster do this now and some amateur sides do it secretly. This could be done more, but doesn't solve the problem that the players just aren't there to allow the clubs to be better and money won't improve standards. Look at Skolars and Gateshead and you'll see why. Northerners won't go south for that little money and you can't bring in semi-pro Aussies anymore unless they're Kolpak