Rugby's Continued Global Expansion

[Paley]

Muppet.

They have a large population and rugby is a niche sport. But it's still big enough to make it a proposition.

They will bring money and their own TV contract. The 6N's will not turn down the chance to market RU in a country of 100 million + people.

The Celtic teams are owned by the unions but have autonomy. Extra fixtures mean more money for the unions and therefore more money for the regions.Money talks.

The Celtic union’s are very powerful as England found out earlier on the decade when they were threatened with expulsion from the championship when they demanded more TV money. They were sent packing with their tail between their legs.

It’s not IF but WHEN Russia joins the 6N’s.

How is Cloud Cuckoo Land these days?

 

[SteveM]

Dont let the truth get in the way of a good fable... The RFU didnt get "sent packing" they organised their own tv deal so the celtic unions backed down... at least know what you are talkign about before you sprout your gibberish...

The celtic Unions are struggling they arent powerful at all... everytime there is a world cup in their neck of the woods they sell their votes!!! Hell Whales are still in court trying to free up their players to Play the All Blacks this year AFTER offering more money to the clubs.. the clubs are still going to court.

And as to your bullsh*t about the money Russia will bring??? niche doesnt even begin to describe how small it is in russia... they dont have enough of a following and wont to have enough interest to a TV channel let alone for the 6 Nations...

Can you provide one link? one piece of evidence that shows where FRU or the RFU have shown any interst in Russia being included in the 6 Nations.

All 6N's games are televised via the BBC. Each home country and Ireland get an equal share of the revenue. So England struck a deal to get an equal share of the cash ?. Sound silly to me. You clearly do not have a clue about NH rugby.

The celtic unions are very strong. They are founder members of the IRB and half the votes in the six nations.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rugby/news/1999/01/20/5nations_reax/

http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/18087

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/england-run-risk-of-five-nations-ban-1304901.html

France and Italy have their own TV deals.

 

[Te Kaha]

All 6N's games are televised via the BBC. Each home country and Ireland get an equal share of the revenue. So England struck a deal to get an equal share of the cash ?. Sound silly to me. You clearly do not have a clue about NH rugby.

The celtic unions are very strong. They are founder members of the IRB and half the votes in the six nations.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rugby/news/1999/01/20/5nations_reax/

http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/18087

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/england-run-risk-of-five-nations-ban-1304901.html

France and Italy have their own TV deals.

So you pull out links from 9 and 13 ago??? only one and four years into pro Rugby to back up your pathetic argument!!!!

How lame are you!!!

There has been so much of a power shift since then... deals done that have superseaded those... you truely have nothing.... since then the clubs have forced a "test window" for players to be released... and have gone to court several times to enforce it...

If you are going to past links... how about the ones showing that the RFU and FRU want the russians in the 6 Nations... i bet you cant...

 

[Hanscholo]

If they keep putting out games like i have seen this season then they can expand as much as they like until they eventually pop. The actual product of RU is a f**king disgrace these days, its nothing like the free flowing game is was in the 90's. Im affraid watching goal kickers win games single handedly from technical infringements is about as interesting as watching an old couple f**k.

 

[SteveM]

Your quote below.

Dont let the truth get in the way of a good fable... The RFU didnt get "sent packing" they organised their own tv deal so the celtic unions backed down... at least know what you are talkign about before you sprout your gibberish...

These links clearly show I am right. The Celtic unions flexed their muscles and the RFU buckled. They are just as powerful as the RFU.

The reason the links are old is because that's the last time England tried to force their hand. The RFU's buff was called and they backed down. The 6N's revenue IS STILL EQUALLY SHARED between the home nations (and Ireland). They are equal partners and therefore equally powerful.

Secondly, yes there is a test window for the November Internationals. Howover,the Six Nations is the golden egg and if they can increase revenue the clubs will be all for it as long as they get compensated. They play through most of international weekends anyway so another will not make much of a difference.

There has been so much of a power shift since then... deals done that have superseaded those... you truely have nothing.... since then the clubs have forced a "test window" for players to be released... and have gone to court several times to enforce it......

New TV deals have been signed but they still share the revenue equally.

Not one autum international has been cancelled because the union's hold the upper hand over the clubs i.e. They are the clubs paymasters. Each time the clubs have been compensated for the loss of their players. That won't change in the near future as they will always compromise.


Russia ?. I have no link because it is heresy and a personal opinion based on current and probable future events.

 

[Te Kaha]

Your quote below.


These links clearly show I am right. The Celtic unions flexed their muscles and the RFU buckled. They are just as powerful as the RFU.

The reason the links are old is because that's the last time England tried to force their hand. The RFU's buff was called and they backed down. The 6N's revenue IS STILL EQUALLY SHARED between the home nations (and Ireland). They are equal partners and therefore equally powerful.

Secondly, yes there is a test window for the November Internationals. Howover,the Six Nations is the golden egg and if they can increase revenue the clubs will be all for it as long as they get compensated. They play through most of international weekends anyway so another will not make much of a difference.



New TV deals have been signed but they still share the revenue equally.

Not one autum international has been cancelled because the union's hold the upper hand over the clubs i.e. They are the clubs paymasters. Each time the clubs have been compensated for the loss of their players. That won't change in the near future as they will always compromise.


Russia ?. I have no link because it is heresy and a personal opinion based on current and probable future events.

For f**ks sake... thats EXACTLY the problem.. England i.e. the RFU gets more money from their non 6 nations internationals... THAT is what they have signed their own deals for... BECAUSE of the clubs they only have so much time for the international test matches...

Therfore anybody with at least half a brain can see that any additional internationals they will want, WONT BE 6 NATIONS ONES...

Personal opinion... so you have no evidence, no quotes, nothing but your faith that this will happen... which makes sense.. as this opinion isnt based in reality.

 

[SteveM]

Your wrong again. In fact all home nations make more money from the Six Nations than any other games. I don't understand were you thought games against the SH pulled in more money !.

When the 6N's expands the summer tours will be trimmed. The reason they have their own TV contract for the November games is that they are only a series of indivdual games not a competition like the 6N's. Why on earth would they share revenue with other countries ?.


As I have said in my other posts the WRU and the regions have now broked a deal. Money talks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/welsh/8241963.stm

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3825_5543806,00.html