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taste2taste

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Penalties too

Wonder why all games can’t be reffed like this
Wouldn't less penalties be due to the top teams being more disciplind ?

Are you saying the the refs are allowing teams to get away with ruck infringements and offsides because it's the finals ?
 

Wb1234

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Wouldn't less penalties be due to the top teams being more disciplind ?

Are you saying the the refs are allowing teams to get away with ruck infringements and offsides because it's the finals ?
Yep just like origin

Every team infringes
Some teams get called on it some mostly don’t

The way the game is reffed is awful they need to sack annesley he’s useless and get someone who has a better feel for the game
 

taste2taste

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Yep just like origin

Every team infringes
Some teams get called on it some mostly don’t

The way the game is reffed is awful they need to sack annesley he’s useless and get someone who has a better feel for the game
Origin is the perfect example of high quality players who don't give away penalties...that's why there's no penalties in origin.

If the refs put away the Whistle we'll go back to hit up, wrestle, kick. Back to 15k crowds and sub par viewership.

I don't understand the idea that games with more penalties = a bad game ? The reason there were alot of penalties in a game is because the teams are crap and undisciplined, it would have been a crap game regardless of how many penalties were given.
 

Wb1234

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Origin is the perfect example of high quality players who don't give away penalties...that's why there's no penalties in origin.

If the refs put away the Whistle we'll go back to hit up, wrestle, kick. Back to 15k crowds and sub par viewership.

I don't understand the idea that games with more penalties = a bad game ? The reason there were alot of penalties in a game is because the teams are crap and undisciplined, it would have been a crap game regardless of how many penalties were given.

So Penrith and storm players don’t give way penalties like say the tigers due to how good they are ?

lol

There have been some awful sides in origins lately that don’t get penalised

Worse is when refs nitpick one side only and not the other in one game

Then have to do get square penalties to even it up

It ruins games

Union is a sport which focuses on penalties or infringements now league has followed for the same result
 

taste2taste

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So Penrith and storm players don’t give way penalties like say the tigers due to how good they are ?

lol

There have been some awful sides in origins lately that don’t get penalised

Worse is when refs nitpick one side only and not the other in one game

Then have to do get square penalties to even it up

It ruins games

Union is a sport which focuses on penalties or infringements now league has followed for the same result
Roosters got hammered last night with penalties, just as they have all season.

Are you saying refs in the Finals are ignoring offences? Are you seeing players committing infringements and not being penalised ???

The games I've seen have had less penalties because players aren't giving them away, nothing to do with the refs swallowing the Whistle.

I agree some games are over officiated but if refs stop giving penalties teams will push the limits and we'll go back to the wrestle, you remember how mind numbling boring those days were ?
 

taste2taste

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Except for last week, when they couldn't do any wrong until the result was certain.

Maybe the players just decided to be better for 1 week.
It's always the refs fault, not the players ;)

Even last night Roosters fans were blaming thier loss on Atkins for missing a knock on leading to a try, it wasn't the fault of the players who missed tackles or dropped the ball...it was all the refs fault :laughing:
 
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It's always the refs fault, not the players ;)

Even last night Roosters fans were blaming thier loss on Atkins for missing a knock on leading to a try, it wasn't the fault of the players who missed tackles or dropped the ball...it was all the refs fault :laughing:
They flew down to Melbourne only to watch their team get their arses handed to them. Gotta expect some cope, don’t you?
 

snickers007

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I reckon we'll be seeing some big changes ahead of next year regarding foul play resulting in concussions, number of interchange players, and probably the kick off too.

Most likely is the introduction of the "No Return Sin Bin" which is for foul play that results in a Category 1 concussion. The offending player spends 10mins in the sin bin and cannot return to the game. At the conclusion of the 10min sin bin period, another player can take their place.

Could also see the introduction of the "4-6-8" interchange system. 6 players are allowed on the bench per game, although only 4 game be used in each game, for a maximum of 8 interchanges. Keep the current free interchange rules regarding foul play, and allow players 18/19 to play if a player is concussed due to foul play.

For the kickoff, they'll probably try to discourage long kicks (and long kick returns). So maybe if the ball is caught on the full in the in-goal from a kick-off it's straight out to the 20 for a tap, and 7 tackles.

I'd also like to see the non-kicking team allowed to play at the ball before it has travelled 10m (as long as they're at least 10m away when the kick is taken). Especially for drop-outs, just to re-balance the risk/reward element of the short kick. But that's purely a personal bug bear of mine, not a response to the kick off concussion issues.

With the NFL adopting new kick off rules this season to minimise similar issues, I reckon the NRL will be watching very closely to see what impact (if any) it has.
 

Chins get the wins

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I reckon we'll be seeing some big changes ahead of next year regarding foul play resulting in concussions, number of interchange players, and probably the kick off too.

Most likely is the introduction of the "No Return Sin Bin" which is for foul play that results in a Category 1 concussion. The offending player spends 10mins in the sin bin and cannot return to the game. At the conclusion of the 10min sin bin period, another player can take their place.

Could also see the introduction of the "4-6-8" interchange system. 6 players are allowed on the bench per game, although only 4 game be used in each game, for a maximum of 8 interchanges. Keep the current free interchange rules regarding foul play, and allow players 18/19 to play if a player is concussed due to foul play.

For the kickoff, they'll probably try to discourage long kicks (and long kick returns). So maybe if the ball is caught on the full in the in-goal from a kick-off it's straight out to the 20 for a tap, and 7 tackles.

I'd also like to see the non-kicking team allowed to play at the ball before it has travelled 10m (as long as they're at least 10m away when the kick is taken). Especially for drop-outs, just to re-balance the risk/reward element of the short kick. But that's purely a personal bug bear of mine, not a response to the kick off concussion issues.

With the NFL adopting new kick off rules this season to minimise similar issues, I reckon the NRL will be watching very closely to see what impact (if any) it has.
The NFL new rules are an abortion. Truly pathetic stuff
 

Wb1234

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Roosters got hammered last night with penalties, just as they have all season.

Are you saying refs in the Finals are ignoring offences? Are you seeing players committing infringements and not being penalised ???

The games I've seen have had less penalties because players aren't giving them away, nothing to do with the refs swallowing the Whistle.

I agree some games are over officiated but if refs stop giving penalties teams will push the limits and we'll go back to the wrestle, you remember how mind numbling boring those days were ?
Roosters got hammered last night ? lol

Annesley has failed at everything he has done from political to Gold Coast boss he should be sacked as refs boss

I’m almost a fan of getting rid of the bunker totally too and let the on field ref just mistakes

Refs shouldn’t look for penalties if it’s not blatant let it go

Half the time you can’t even tell what the penalty is for

The game is way over officiated
 

Fangs

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The kick off (long) won't be banned.

But punishments for high contact will be increased. The contact from NAS didn't look bad on camera but the speed they are going at makes it 10x worse.

Expect grade 3 to be the minimum going into 2025 for high contact from kick offs. Send offs mandatory.
 

Saxon

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And for what it's worth, rather than 6 again why not just make it 3 more tackles for an infringement?
Because that would make the refs have to add up - we've had 4 tackles so there are . . . what's six minus four . . . umm 2 tackles left . . . umm . . add 3 is . . . umm . . . 5? left. So six minus five is . . . ummm . . . first tackle?

Klown would be a sobbing mess after 10 minutes.
 

siv

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If it better teams don't get penalised as much

Then a simple graph of team ladder position v penalty count infringed will verify it

Rather what I expect we will see is better teams push the penalty envelope knowing referees won't blow more that 5 or 6 on average game against a single team, for fear of being sacked
 

Trifili13

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Or where on the field and at what stage of the game the penalties were awarded. And let's not talk about the penalties that should have been awarded against the top teams but weren't.
 
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If it better teams don't get penalised as much

Then a simple graph of team ladder position v penalty count infringed will verify it

Rather what I expect we will see is better teams push the penalty envelope knowing referees won't blow more that 5 or 6 on average game against a single team, for fear of being sacked
With Roosters being the anomaly there
 
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Some clubs only use there interchange players for 10 or 20 minutes a game now.. increasing the bench to 6 there would be some professional seat warmers, be pointless.
 

firechild

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Wouldn't less penalties be due to the top teams being more disciplind ?

Are you saying the the refs are allowing teams to get away with ruck infringements and offsides because it's the finals ?
Yes, 100%. The Roosters particularly were laying all over the ruck through all their matches.
 

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